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Old 05-27-2015, 01:53 PM   #41
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But it's already happened long before PD even came into the picture
So that makes it okay for Platinum Dunes to do it?

Just because it's happened before doesn't mean PD HAD to do it as well.

They could have chosen the right way of doing things, instead of the wrong way.

Or hell Paramount could have just not given it to Platinum Dunes/Michael Bay in the first place. That would have helped IMMENSELY.
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Old 05-27-2015, 01:56 PM   #42
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No offense to this women or anything, but just makes me wonder why and what the point is.
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I don't think she'd necessarily be pissed, it's Hollywood and it's acting. It happens. Often.
But kinda sucks though from the standpoint that Asians don't get nearly as many roles as white and black actors do. Hope maybe it was Noji's own choice to bail out or she simply had another, conflicting offer.

Had hoped she'd be back though, she has a more powerful look to her for playing Karai than this new girl imo. Curious how they plan on pulling off the Shredder's daughter thing considering the ages of the actors. Hm. Maybe the new guy will be her brother and Shredder is dad to both? (But that would probably make too much sense.)


(I swear, if they do all this but Pete doesn't voice Leo I'm prob gonna be kinda hating on them for that, just heads up fyi.)


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please no. i hated that origin...whoever came up with that needs their head checked - variations on their origin, fine. even IDW changed it up. but straight up making them another race from another planet - negating the ooze factor. it makes me mad just thinking about it.
Must echo the "please no." In particular, I hated the end of that script. I get they were trying to end with emotional impact, but it was not in a good way; rather heart breaking and I question any claimed fandom of the writers because I just can't see how any legit fan would want that for the Turtles.

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Old 05-27-2015, 02:01 PM   #43
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No offense to this women or anything, but just makes me wonder why and what the point is.

But kinda sucks though from the standpoint that Asians don't get nearly as many roles as white and black actors do. Hope maybe it was Noji's own choice to bail out or she simply had another, conflicting offer.

Had hoped she'd be back though, she has a more powerful look to her for playing Karai than this new girl imo. Curious how they plan on pulling off the Shredder's daughter thing considering the ages of the actors. Hm. Maybe the new guy will be her brother and Shredder is dad to both? (But that would probably make too much sense.)
Yeah, if this wasn't her choice I feel really bad for her, given how jazzed she was for the opportunity. I feel like she would have made a fine Karai had she been given anything to do other than stand around.

Good look, good voice, commanding presence. All there, barely scratching the surface, trying to fight its way out of a horrible script.

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Must echo the "please no." In particular, I hated the end of that script. I get they were trying to end with emotional impact, but it was not in a good way; rather heart breaking and I question any claimed fandom of the writers because I just can't see how any legit fan would want that for the Turtles.
and then jon Liebesman had the audacity to call out the real fans and say "well it's alien ooze"
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:28 PM   #45
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Must echo the "please no." In particular, I hated the end of that script. I get they were trying to end with emotional impact, but it was not in a good way; rather heart breaking and I question any claimed fandom of the writers because I just can't see how any legit fan would want that for the Turtles.
That was the worst part of the script. Even worse than the "smoking hot turtle chick." Exact words from the script.
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Shredder recast I understand,but Karai is surpring. I was hoping for Minae Noji and Abby Elliott do get more deserving character development and screen time.
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Its really no surprise that certain key characters were recast, Remember, Secret of the Ooze recast April and Shredder.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:33 PM   #48
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That was the worst part of the script. Even worse than the "smoking hot turtle chick." Exact words from the script.
God I hate these people.

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Its really no surprise that certain key characters were recast, Remember, Secret of the Ooze recast April and Shredder.
So that means this movie series had to as well? Not getting your point here.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:42 PM   #49
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Yay! Alien Turtles!
Karai wasn't in the alien script, so they may be working with something else.

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Last time they had a corner to get themselves out of (American Caucasian Shredder), there was at least one possible solution that would have worked and provided a good movie (Utrom Shredder).

But nah, they made a bad situation worse. Caucasian Shredder would have been far preferable...
Well, the difference is that they figured out how badly they messed up Shredder when production was over, so they had to do last-minute re-shoots, which is why the movie was so sloppy. Here, they had time to write a complete script.

Honest to god, this movie's casting/set photos/other information is pretty great so far. It hasn't done anything to piss off the fans yet, besides keeping Megan Fox, we just have the reputation of the first movie. It makes me wonder if they're giving it a new feel, which I'm fine with. New director, new cast, same Turtles we love. Only reason why Fox wasn't recast was probably because of her 3-picture deal.

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Its really no surprise that certain key characters were recast, Remember, Secret of the Ooze recast April and Shredder.
April didn't want to return so they had to recast her, and Shredder was just a body double.

The thing is, Karai WASN'T a big character in the first movie, and it makes me wonder if they're just blowing away their budget on big-named actors. Like, I get the Johnny as Leo thing. He wasn't a good Leo, but he WAS in the movie for a long time. But having someone like Whoopi Goldberg, an actress who is going to demand a lot of money, be in there for 2-3 scenes? I feel like that's going to happen with Perry's Baxter Stockman. Honestly, they should do unnamed actors/actresses because that'll save the budget, which will mean more Turtles, and also, we'll be able to see the actors as "April, Casey, etc." instead of "Megan Fox poorly playing April."
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April didn't want to return so they had to recast her, and Shredder was just a body double.

The thing is, Karai WASN'T a big character in the first movie, and it makes me wonder if they're just blowing away their budget on big-named actors. Like, I get the Johnny as Leo thing. He wasn't a good Leo, but he WAS in the movie for a long time. But having someone like Whoopi Goldberg, an actress who is going to demand a lot of money, be in there for 2-3 scenes? I feel like that's going to happen with Perry's Baxter Stockman. Honestly, they should do unnamed actors/actresses because that'll save the budget, which will mean more Turtles, and also, we'll be able to see the actors as "April, Casey, etc." instead of "Megan Fox poorly playing April."
You barely ever see the Shredder's face in the 1st film, So recasting him wasn't a problem, Perhaps they are gonna show his face this time.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:58 PM   #51
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They're casting and recasting parts that didn't matter if they were recast or not. The first actors in these roles were mostly fine, what little we saw of them.

It's not a matter of casting, idiots in charge of this movie. It's a matter of how poorly you utilized the actors and characters in your sh*t first movie.

Recasting just because will do nothing to help the awful script you're probably writing.
this times 2....there is no reason to recast...literally its just a why not at this point..


and you know just cause the original actress hasnt said anything doesnt mean she isnt pissed about she, she just could be one of those less vocal about it
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Here, they had time to write a complete script.
Dear god I hope so, since they started shooting only eight months after the sequel was announced.

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You barely ever see the Shredder's face in the 1st film, So recasting him wasn't a problem, Perhaps they are gonna show his face this time.
But then there's the problem of this obviously younger guy having been Sack's father figure.

Where's the 'speed control' on the tracks this train is on...
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At least she is an Asian.
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Where's the 'speed control' on the tracks this train is on...
This whole film series is a train wreck at any speed.
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Dear god I hope so, since they started shooting only eight months after the sequel was announced.


But then there's the problem of this obviously younger guy having been Sack's father figure.

Where's the 'speed control' on the tracks this train is on...
Just apply some of that old age makeup and he can look older.

Though, you could use the theory that, The Shredder from the first film was Oroku Nagi and the Shredder in the sequel is Oroku Saki.
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Honestly, they should do unnamed actors/actresses because that'll save the budget, which will mean more Turtles, and also, we'll be able to see the actors as "April, Casey, etc." instead of "Megan Fox poorly playing April."
This is why Jane Levy, who tested for the role, would have been perfect as a younger, just-starting-out April. 25 years old, but older than the Turtles and she gets this big Ninjas In New York story which blows up her career.

But nope. Megan Fox and ass shots. Megan Fox as a blonde catholic school girl.

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this times 2....there is no reason to recast...literally its just a why not at this point..

and you know just cause the original actress hasnt said anything doesnt mean she isnt pissed about she, she just could be one of those less vocal about it
That's apparently their method for writing this go around.

"Shredder? Karai? Baxter? Casey? Bebop? Rocksteady? Krang? Why the hell not?!"

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Dear god I hope so, since they started shooting only eight months after the sequel was announced.
"We're trying to cram in as much nostalgia-bait as we possibly can to distract you from our unbelievably bad script."
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:13 PM   #57
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Why would they recast Minae Noji? She was like the only thing I remotely enjoyed about the first "film." Stupid.

And all of the news outlets running with "Shredder's daughter, Karai" are pretty stupid. I mean, the odds are pretty good that's what she'll be, but it's hardly a given.
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Seriously? Another recast? What was wrong with the actress that played her in the first one?
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Weird, all the best Minae Noji. She'll be a voice actor in Nick so that's okay..

Megan Fox's the best, she's one of the reasons this film is a box office hit so they won't replace her anytime soon.
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Weird, all the best Minae Noji. She'll be a voice actor in Nick so that's okay..
Hopefully they'll actually give her something to do this time.

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Megan Fox's the best, she's one of the reasons this film is a box office hit so they won't replace her anytime soon.
As much as I hate to admit this... you're right. She does have a lot to do with the first film making so much money. *Shudders*
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