The Official TMNT 2 (2016) Set Photos/Videos Thread

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 only had 2 villains, the Rhino was just one scene in the end to show Spider-Man was back. I don't understand how that bugs people so much.

It bugs people mostly because it just didn't work - none of the villain characters got the kind of development they needed for the audience to care about their stories. The producers were more concerned with cramming in as many fan-servicey characters as possible and planting seeds for future movies than they were in telling a good story, and the reaction the movie got because of it is why those sequels/spinoffs got cancelled and Sony went to Marvel hat in hand.

Originally Posted by Sarigar

Hmmm, not feeling the comparison. Rhino, Electro and Green Goblin are major Spiderman villains in their own right. The reason it didn't work in ASM2 is how weak these major villains seemed and how shoehorned in they all were.

Plus cameos & smaller villain/future villain roles for Norman Osborn, Felicia Hardy, Alistair Smythe, a villainized (and male-ized) version of Dr. Ashley Kafka, Donald Menken, and heavily teasing the Sinister Six long before that kind of team-up could be earned.

Originally Posted by Sarigar

In TMNT stories, Bebop and Rocksteady have always been henchmen serving Shredder, who is the top dog or who is serving Krang's or is an Ultrom himself. They don't need or deserve more screen time then Shredder. Seeing them and Casey in the sequel is a natural progression of the storyline. It makes sense. Also, if they were not in it, there would be soooo much more bitching from the majority of fans. And not just a tiny militants vocal contingent on these boards. Hate the writing and designs of the first? I'm right there with you. Hate that they are putting in fan favorites into a sequel? Now you're just having sour grapes.

Well, no, they haven't "always" been present at all. They're fun characters when handled right, but they're not necessary ones - and honestly, odds are they won't serve a purpose here other than pushing the fan-service button. There's a time and place for that, but in a movie already crammed full of characters, and being a sequel that has a lot of work to do to make up for the mistakes of the previous one... I just can't see them helping much. Aside from making some audience members yell "HEY LOOK, BEBOP AND ROCKSTEADY, I REMEMBER THEM". But that isn't a story. It's a cheap way to drum up buzz, and that's all.

And besides - henchmen or not, the more characters you have running around, the less time there is to spend on the characters who need it. And in TMNT's case, the key characters were already underserved in the first movie. Except this time they've got six or seven villain characters to juggle, another "new" hero character in Casey Jones, and a bunch of shoehorned-in celebrity roles? I'm glad you're confident about this, but what of this production's history makes you think they'll handle this any better than they did the last one?