Plotholes

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

The only one that gets ME is Lotus finding the lair AND blowing a hole in the wall in "Beware the Lotus" and then Shredder never finding it again afterward, despite having a CLEAR way to get there with that sniffing machine. Just- WTF??!! I can excuse him not finding it while in Splinter's body or when he thought he was Mikey, but THAT one is kind of face-palm worthy.

Only Lotus knew the location of the Turtles lair. She never told Shredder where she found the Turtles/Splinter. Simple as that.

[Wesley]

In season 8, the Technodrome was trapped in a black hole in Dimension X, but Krang's Rock Soldiers somehow freed it from the black hole with no explanation given. The Turtles had Shredder's Retro-Mutageon Ray in "Wrath of the Rat King", so why didn't use it on Splinter to turn him back to his human self? The Technodrome's dimensional portal was still functional in "Divide and Conquer", making Shredder and Krang's absence pointless.

[Icebot]

Originally Posted by Wesley

The Turtles had Shredder's Retro-Mutageon Ray in "Wrath of the Rat King", so why didn't use it on Splinter to turn him back to his human self?

Splinter realized it's better to be a rat in Splinter No More and Shredder & Splintered.

Speaking of the retro mutagen ray, the turtles first retrieved it in Revenge of the Fly but they destroyed it after they returned all the humans to normal yet they still had it a short time later in The Wrath of The Rat King. Also, the retro mutagen ray in Revenge of The Fly looks like the same gun that Baxter used to turn Shredder into a fly in Bye Bye Fly. My guess is Shredder eventually turned it into a retro mutagen ray.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Only Lotus knew the location of the Turtles lair. She never told Shredder where she found the Turtles/Splinter. Simple as that.

But she had Foot soldiers with her! And Shredder/Krang never tracked them down by their control signals??!! I call tech-BS!!! And I find it hard to believe she didn't tell them where it was or wasn't in communication with them while hunting the turtles down. She also still had the sniffer-machine, and since Shredder apparently kept it (it WAS in Turtles Forever, after all!) he could have just used it himself!

[Xav]

Hamato Yoshi was the Shidoshi of the Foot Clan. Oroku Saki wanted to usurp his leadership of the Foot Clan. So he frames him in front of a visiting master Sensei, who than kicks him out of the clan. If Yoshi is the leader of the clan, how can a visiting Sensei remove him from power? If Yoshi is supposed to be the leader of that school but not the whole clan, than how does taking him out make Saki leader of the clan, and why is Yoshi referred to as the true leader later on?

[neatoman]

So Krang is meant to be a disembodied brain, his species didn't actually look like that. So explain this please.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Icebot

In the last episode Divide and Conquer, the turtles use Krang's android body which suddenly had a chip in it that makes the body bigger and it looked like Donatello figured that out from its blueprints. That chip was destroyed way back in season 1 and that got me wondering how did it get another chip?

Maybe it what remains. The robot didn't seem to grow what large in "Divide and Conquer". My problem with the chip is that it enlarged both Krang and the robot. Yes, it was extraterrestrial chip, but it could affect:

*Krang = living creature
*Krang's robot = machine

It would be better if he just used some kind of giant robot-tank instead and just sit inside.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So Krang is meant to be a disembodied brain, his species didn't actually look like that. So explain this please.

I kinda have this theory that the smarter individuals of Dimension X made it a practice to shed their bodies in order to achieve some higher form of intelligent sentience.

[DarkFell]

Or...this was before the Godzilla Krang idea was thought up.

[neatoman]

So I watched Muckman messes up today, two questions:

1. If Muckman's power was to weaken other mutants, why were only the Turtles affected and not Splinter, Bebop and Rocksteady?
2. Shredder and Krang were flushed away with mutagen, so why didn't they mutate?

[CyberCubed]

1. Muckman aimed his powers at the Turtles, didn't he? Pretty sure Bebop/Rocksteady were standing behind or to the side of him.

2. Krang was in his Android body so it didn't touch him directly. As for Shredder, who knows.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Icebot

In the last episode Divide and Conquer, the turtles use Krang's android body which suddenly had a chip in it that makes the body bigger and it looked like Donatello figured that out from its blueprints. That chip was destroyed way back in season 1 and that got me wondering how did it get another chip?

Krang has more than one android body (when one of them was destroyed with "Krangenstein Lives!"), and at that time it appeared to already have the enlarging capability hardware integrated into it without the "chip". Krang could have learned after Season 1 to integrate the "molecular amplification chip" (I think that was what it was called) onto the android body's main motherboard instead of leaving it susceptible to an easy attack again in "Shredder & Splintered".

Originally Posted by neatoman

So Krang is meant to be a disembodied brain, his species didn't actually look like that. So explain this please.
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...13/03/0082.jpg

In "Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X" (Season 1), when Traag asked what happened to Krang's body, he says it's a long story and that he lost his body when "they" banished him to the "mudball" known as Earth. I assumed with the other two disembodied brains, those two experienced the same disembodiment as Krang from "they" and at some point between the disembodiment of the three and Krang reaching Earth, those three disembodied Krangezoids conspired together in regards to the crystal. Whoever "they" are, is of course open to speculation.

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's one that occurred to me just last year: Throughout most of the series run, the Ninja Turtles' goal was to capture Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady so they can be brought to justice and in the episode "Pirate Radio" they actually manage to achieve this goal during a fight with Tin Face and his moronic mutants on a boat out in the New York harbor. So what do our heroes promptly do with their arch nemesis and his flunkies? That's right, send them back to Krang in the friggin Technodrome. Somebody really dropped the ball on that one!!!

I assumed since that water whirlpool could mysteriously and unpredictably appear, the Turtles didn't want to risk taking them (Shredder, Bebop, and Rocksteady) to shore since there were other civilians on the same ship and on others in the vicinity where they could get caught up again in the whirlpool. One could reason that those three villains were used as bargaining chips to ensure the other boats (and civilians) had left the water first, and when it was only that one radio ship left, the Turtles made the three villains "walk the plank" as some type of "drop off point". If the Turtles were by themselves (without having to worry about the safety of civilians nearby in the water), they could have brought those three villains to shore and brought to justice. Just a thought... **shrug**

[neatoman]

Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko.

So the depiction of the origin contradict the depiction in season one. The Turtles fall straignt into the mutagen instead of on Yoshi's head, the storm drain does not appear to be Yoshi's hideout and for some reason the mutagen is green instead of purple.

In fact, multiple depictions of the mutagen changed the color from purple to green, now that I think about it.

[Danetello]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So Krang is meant to be a disembodied brain, his species didn't actually look like that. So explain this please.
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com...13/03/0082.jpg

Because I am having a totally dumb moment, remind me again which episode this is from?!

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Danetello

Because I am having a totally dumb moment, remind me again which episode this is from?!

The one where Leo thinks he's one of the Musketeers.

[Danetello]

Originally Posted by neatoman

The one where Leo thinks he's one of the Musketeers.

Ah, ok! Thanks! It's been a while since I watched season 5. I am currently on season 10. Maybe I'll go back and re-watch them all again later this year.

[cammy85]

Season 3 actually.

[TurtleFan2012]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Here's one that occurred to me just last year: Throughout most of the series run, the Ninja Turtles' goal was to capture Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady so they can be brought to justice and in the episode "Pirate Radio" they actually manage to achieve this goal during a fight with Tin Face and his moronic mutants on a boat out in the New York harbor. So what do our heroes promptly do with their arch nemesis and his flunkies? That's right, send them back to Krang in the friggin Technodrome. Somebody really dropped the ball on that one!!!

1) Speaking of being brought to justice, there is a gag in "Mutagen Monster" where Rocksteady pulls out a mugshot photo of himself (in his rhino form), but we don't see Bebop and rocksteady get arrested prior to that.

2) How is Tempestra able to lay low after "Night of the Rogues"? You have a crazy video game sorceress walking around on earth with incredible powers. Where the heck was she during the red sky era? Just chilling at a beach?

3) Rat King and the turtles are sorta neighbors, right? They live in the same sewer, yet, the turtles act like it's no big deal. Apparently he knows where to find them.

4) Why doesn't Donnie create a steel door for their lair entrance? Any villain can just walk in their lair and open fire.

[Ceres]

the biggest plothole was Krangs history and backstory which still makes me mad up to this day. This is the only thing that really bothered me with the FW Cartoon :/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by TurtleFan2012

1) 4) Why doesn't Donnie create a steel door for their lair entrance? Any villain can just walk in their lair and open fire.

Oddly enough, I wrote a fic where that actually happens- it doesn't end well for the turtles.... (# Turtle death)