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Old 06-17-2015, 01:52 AM   #1861
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Oh I'm willing to bet money that literally the only reasons he was cast is because superhero tv shows are hot right now, he's on one of the most popular, and Green Arrow and Casey Jones are both vigilantes so CLOSE ENOUGH.

But they couldn't change his appearance in any way to make him look more like Casey Jones and not Stephen Amell, because goddammit they're paying for STEPHEN AMELL and he damn well better LOOK like Stephen Amell.

And the least they could have done, THE LEAST, was something like this:



That is infinitely more "Casey-looking" than what they're doing here which is just telling Amell to wear something from his closet and show up on set and here wear this ridiculously oversized hockey mask for a few seconds each take.
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Oh I'm willing to bet money that literally the only reasons he was cast is because superhero tv shows are hot right now, he's on one of the most popular, and Green Arrow and Casey Jones are both vigilantes so CLOSE ENOUGH.

But they couldn't change his appearance in any way to make him look more like Casey Jones and not Stephen Amell, because goddammit they're paying for STEPHEN AMELL and he damn well better LOOK like Stephen Amell.

And the least they could have done, THE LEAST, was something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/hCB4yQW.jpg?1

That is infinitely more "Casey-looking" than what they're doing here which is just telling Amell to wear something from his closet and show up on set and here wear this ridiculously oversized hockey mask for a few seconds each take.
^ I don't get why they didn't do this, either! It LOOKS like Casey. I get that these producers are trying their best to wipe their asses with the source material, but for the love of god--
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Old 06-17-2015, 08:04 AM   #1864
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^ I don't get why they didn't do this, either! It LOOKS like Casey. I get that these producers are trying their best to wipe their asses with the source material, but for the love of god--
It's such a tiny thing that makes a WORLD of difference. And if a CW tv show could have made it look good, a multi million dollar goddamn motion picture could have too.

But no. They didn't want Casey Jones in this movie. They wanted very popular Stephen Amell in the movie and will occasionally call him Casey Jones.

Kinda like how they didn't want April O'Neil in the first movie, just the still kinda hot Megan Fox.
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:18 AM   #1865
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It's such a tiny thing that makes a WORLD of difference. And if a CW tv show could have made it look good, a multi million dollar goddamn motion picture could have too.

But no. They didn't want Casey Jones in this movie. They wanted very popular Stephen Amell in the movie and will occasionally call him Casey Jones.

Kinda like how they didn't want April O'Neil in the first movie, just the still kinda hot Megan Fox.
They had Elizabeth Olsen audition for April O'Neil. Let me say it again, the only Olsen that can act auditioned for April O'Neil. How high were these producers when they decided to cast Megan Fox? At least Stephen Amell can act. Again, he's going to work with what he has, the same way Will Arnett worked with what he had. He didn't have much, but he worked with it. But for Lord Buddha's name, just give him a wig. The wig makes him look YOUNGER and less responsible. Casey's supposed to have the temper of Raph, but with the wildness of Mikey. This one looks like Casey just got out of rehab and is ready to get his life back together. Again, this isn't hate on Stephen Amell, it's just the goddamn writers and producers.
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Elizabeth Olsen, Jane Levy, Anna Kendrick. All auditioned, all would have been far better.

But you know what? They're all TOO good for this movie series. It doesn't deserve them. This movie series got exactly what it deserved in Megan Fox.
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:28 AM   #1867
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They had Elizabeth Olsen audition for April O'Neil. Let me say it again, the only Olsen that can act auditioned for April O'Neil. How high were these producers when they decided to cast Megan Fox? At least Stephen Amell can act. Again, he's going to work with what he has, the same way Will Arnett worked with what he had. He didn't have much, but he worked with it. But for Lord Buddha's name, just give him a wig. The wig makes him look YOUNGER and less responsible. Casey's supposed to have the temper of Raph, but with the wildness of Mikey. This one looks like Casey just got out of rehab and is ready to get his life back together. Again, this isn't hate on Stephen Amell, it's just the goddamn writers and producers.
Elizabeth Olsen as April O'Neil? That's... damn. That would have been fun. Or Anna Kendrick.

But was ANYONE honestly surprised that Megan Fox was cast?

I'm still shocked Shia LaBouf wasn't cast as Casey. Thank God for small favors, amiright?
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Elizabeth Olsen, Jane Levy, Anna Kendrick. All auditioned, all would have been far better.

But you know what? They're all TOO good for this movie series. It doesn't deserve them. This movie series got exactly what it deserved in Megan Fox.
Can you just imagine the calls they got?
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"Hey, Ms. Olsen/Levy/Kendrick, we're sorry to inform you you didn't get the part of April O'Neil."
"Oh, that's unfortunate. Out of curiosity, would you mind telling me who got the part?"
"Megan Fox."
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Can you just imagine the calls they got?
"Hi."
"Hey, Ms. Olsen/Levy/Kendrick, we're sorry to inform you you didn't get the part of April O'Neil."
"Oh, that's unfortunate. Out of curiosity, would you mind telling me who got the part?"
"Megan Fox."
"...BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA."
Seriously, even if Megan Fox WAS a good actress, if you wanted to placate fans who were terrified that you were going to ruin a movie with their childhood heroes, wouldn't you just cast someone else? If you weren't 100% a d*ck who was compensating for what he lacks by casting explosions and hot babes?
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Seriously, even if Megan Fox WAS a good actress, if you wanted to placate fans who were terrified that you were going to ruin a movie with their childhood heroes, wouldn't you just cast someone else? If you weren't 100% a d*ck who was compensating for what he lacks by casting explosions and hot babes?
Not to mention the fact that they recasted people who were somewhat good in their roles (Actors for Karai and Shredder) but they KEPT Megan Fox. NOBODY complained about the actor for Shredder, just how the character was done. Nobody complained about the actress for Karai, just about how the character was treated. EVERYBODY complained about Megan Fox. So, what do they decide to do? Keep Megan Fox of course!

To quote Andre, the Black Nerd, "I would rather see Bella Thorne as April O'Neil." Seriously, this is the perfect role for an unknown actor. Having unknowns play April and Casey would be perfect and it'd add to the relationship they have with the Turtles. That's why the Turtles weren't that bad in this movie: the actors, with the exception of Noel, weren't known that well, so you saw them as Leonardo (well, Johnny Knoxville's voice... but he did okay), Donatello, Raphael, and Michelangelo. It helps make it feel like these are actually people in a family. And there are actors who can do that: Stephen will probably be fine, but Megan Fox? No. She can't act for hell. I probably couldn't, either, but at least I'm not saying I can.
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Not to mention the fact that they recasted people who were somewhat good in their roles (Actors for Karai and Shredder) but they KEPT Megan Fox. NOBODY complained about the actor for Shredder, just how the character was done. Nobody complained about the actress for Karai, just about how the character was treated. EVERYBODY complained about Megan Fox. So, what do they decide to do? Keep Megan Fox of course!

To quote Andre, the Black Nerd, "I would rather see Bella Thorne as April O'Neil." Seriously, this is the perfect role for an unknown actor. Having unknowns play April and Casey would be perfect and it'd add to the relationship they have with the Turtles. That's why the Turtles weren't that bad in this movie: the actors, with the exception of Noel, weren't known that well, so you saw them as Leonardo (well, Johnny Knoxville's voice... but he did okay), Donatello, Raphael, and Michelangelo. It helps make it feel like these are actually people in a family. And there are actors who can do that: Stephen will probably be fine, but Megan Fox? No. She can't act for hell. I probably couldn't, either, but at least I'm not saying I can.
Stephen will not be fine. Have you watched Arrow season 3? Ugh.

And yes, casting unknowns or up-and-comings for Casey and April would have been fanfreakingtastic, for both the audience, the studio, and the actors. But no....

Every day, every post, I get more and more pissed off with Bay.
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Stephen will not be fine. Have you watched Arrow season 3? Ugh.

And yes, casting unknowns or up-and-comings for Casey and April would have been fanfreakingtastic, for both the audience, the studio, and the actors. But no....

Every day, every post, I get more and more pissed off with Bay.
I blame 3 on the writers, since he was great in seasons 1 and 2. Season 3 had a new showrunner, so it's kind of his fault.

Also, unknowns wouldn't take such a chunk out of the budget, which means more Turtles. Or, for Michael Bay, it'd mean more action sequences involving Turtles. He needs to learn that these things are characters, not TNT holders.
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I blame 3 on the writers, since he was great in seasons 1 and 2. Season 3 had a new showrunner, so it's kind of his fault.

Also, unknowns wouldn't take such a chunk out of the budget, which means more Turtles. Or, for Michael Bay, it'd mean more action sequences involving Turtles. He needs to learn that these things are characters, not TNT holders.
Agreed and agreed. You're right, I shouldn't entirely blame Arrow S3 on Stephen... however, a lousier season did help me see he's not a great actor. He's okay, but honestly, his quality does seem to fit in Platinum Dunes.

Can he even do anything that's not dark and tortured? Self-doubt, conflicting? All that? Geez, gimme a lighthearted "Oops" as you pull the lever on the trash compactor.
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Agreed and agreed. You're right, I shouldn't entirely blame Arrow S3 on Stephen... however, a lousier season did help me see he's not a great actor. He's okay, but honestly, his quality does seem to fit in Platinum Dunes.

Can he even do anything that's not dark and tortured? Self-doubt, conflicting? All that? Geez, gimme a lighthearted "Oops" as you pull the lever on the trash compactor.
Thing is that I can see Stephen being a great Casey, but I can see him botching it at the same time, though. Either way, the writers probably wrote Casey wrong, so there's really nothing we can do.

And what's worse is that now the writers are EPs for the film. Because those two are such great writers.
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Thing is that I can see Stephen being a great Casey, but I can see him botching it at the same time, though. Either way, the writers probably wrote Casey wrong, so there's really nothing we can do.

And what's worse is that now the writers are EPs for the film. Because those two are such great writers.
If they had given him a wig or a costume, I could maybe see him as Casey. But they've done literally NOTHING to make him look any different than Stephen Amell normally looks or when dressed up as Oliver Queen.

It's kinda like Megan Fox. I can't see her as April.
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((Turtles see Casey from behind, standing rigid, enshrouded in shadow. His hood is pulled up.))

Mikey: "Woooooahh, you guys, is that...?!"
Donnie: "Naaah, couldn't be..."

((Casey whips around to face them, his face covered by that oversized Lord Zedd hockey mask of his. Turtles gasp. Casey waits all of 1.5 seconds and then pulls up his mask to show his face, because holy sh*t, they're paying the guy from Green Arrow and thus you just HAVE to push for those close-ups.))

Leo: "Uhh... I don't know... IS it him?"
Raph: "Hard to tell without all'a that mascara smeared all over his face."
Mikey: "HAH! That show's silly."
Casey: ((Blinks repeatedly, possibly rubs eyes with both fists and makes a bug-eyed face)) "What... ARE you...?!" (Original Quote Source: Every Science Fiction Movie Ever [citation needed])


Since it's questionable if they can really handle serious film making, maybe they really should just give up on that and aim for corny; make it a parody of itself. Might be a smart move.
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Found this on Comicbookmovie.com In relation that pic I posted last night.

Amell responded to fans questioning the difference of classic Casey to his.


"Hey guys -- it makes sense," Amell said in response to fans questioning the difference between the classic Casey and his new version. "But it'd be tough to know that when you haven't seen a trailer much less read a synopsis. I'd just try and be patient." What do you guys think?
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Found this on Comicbookmovie.com In relation that pic I posted last night.

Amell responded to fans questioning the difference of classic Casey to his.


"Hey guys -- it makes sense," Amell said in response to fans questioning the difference between the classic Casey and his new version. "But it'd be tough to know that when you haven't seen a trailer much less read a synopsis. I'd just try and be patient." What do you guys think?


In a word? No.

In more words, it'll make as much sense and be as true to the source material as 6' 800lb bulletproof NINJAS.
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Of course it makes sense. "Casey Jones" is Oliver Queen's alter ego when he wants to take some time off the wild life as a playboy billionaire who's secretly a superhero.
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Found this on Comicbookmovie.com In relation that pic I posted last night.

Amell responded to fans questioning the difference of classic Casey to his.


"Hey guys -- it makes sense," Amell said in response to fans questioning the difference between the classic Casey and his new version. "But it'd be tough to know that when you haven't seen a trailer much less read a synopsis. I'd just try and be patient." What do you guys think?
Basically saying that this is not like the Casey Jones that has generally been presented in TMNT media and that the only similarity will be his name and hockey mask.

Because y'know this is a new version where everything has to be new and different, how can you expect the poor writers to do the same thing as always plus the old version is outdated anyway and wouldn't work in 2016. I appreciate this is a polite response and not the usual brush offs but it pretty much amounts to the same thing.

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