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~~Leo656~~ · 06-28-2015, 05:33 PM

I'm looking forward to giving it a try. To be fair to those who say they enjoy it, I will say I've seen/heard a lot of people who bought it say that tinkering with the controls does help.

I think this is why they held back so much on having a playable Batmobile in past games the first place despite people begging for it. I think they kind of knew that it wouldn't work as well in practice as people imagined it would. They got kind of stuck with having to give people something they wanted despite not really having the time and resources to execute it organically and to make it as good as it could've been. Can't be easy basically stapling two completely different types of games together.

*CyberCubed* · 06-28-2015, 05:40 PM

As someone who has now completed about 90% of the missions in Arkham Knight, I honestly think it might be my least favorite Arkham game, and this is coming from someone who loved all 3 previous games, even Origins.

The game definitely has some cool moments and great gameplay, but almost all the big set pieces or puzzles are designed around the Batmobile. Then there's all the god awful "tank battles" where you have to sit there shooting 30 tanks with missiles in one spot. This wouldn't be so bad if it didn't happen continuously throughout the entire game and they made a long-winded sidequest out of it too. So you have to do this almost 20 times throughout the game.

I think what also bothers me is you don't really get that "Metroid" like vibe from this game where you re-explore areas multiple times to find new stuff like you did in previous Arkham games. Sure all the Riddler trophy stuff is still there, but I mean for the actual main gameplay or story.

Its still a good game, but I'm honestly legitimately disappointed. Especially since everyone hyped Rocksteady up for years and how they would deliver a true next-gen Batman experience...its really just more of the same with prettier graphics and half the game designed around the Batmobile.

I'd recommend playing it for everyone, but you will definitely hate the Batmobile sections after a while. Its even worse when you realize there are at least 3 major boss battles in the game with the Batmobile. *shudders*

~~Leo656~~ · 06-28-2015, 05:43 PM

Sounds kinda like since this was the last game in the series they had to overcompensate for not having the Batmobile in earlier games by getting as much mileage as possible out of it in this one.

*Cure* · 06-28-2015, 05:57 PM

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I'd recommend playing it for everyone, but you will definitely hate the Batmobile sections after a while. Its even worse when you realize there are at least 3 major boss battles in the game with the Batmobile. *shudders*

Yeah, yo, tell me about it. I was all excited to fight

Spoiler:

after doing all the goddamned militia stuff but NOPE! Batmobile battle!

*CyberCubed* · 06-28-2015, 06:33 PM

Arkham Origins definitely had the best boss fights of the series. Firefly in this game was a joke, but his boss battle in Origins was great. Also the Bane fight in Origins was lightyears above Asylums.

I won't say anymore to avoid spoilers, but I also think the side missions in Arkham Knight are the worst of the 3 games. It really reminded me of Assassin's Creed or Far Cry with the towers and checkpoints and stuff.

*THGhost* · 06-28-2015, 10:24 PM

I'm pretty darn efficient with the Batmobile in races/chases. It doesn't feel clunky at all. Y'all mustn't play that many racing games I take it.

It sure isn't getting boring for me, guess playing a lot of racing games helps.

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Yeah, yo, tell me about it. I was all excited to fight

Spoiler:

after doing all the goddamned militia stuff but NOPE! Batmobile battle!

I shall look forward to that then.

*The Stryker* · 06-28-2015, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

I'm pretty darn efficient with the Batmobile in races/chases. It doesn't feel clunky at all. Y'all mustn't play that many racing games I take it.

It sure isn't getting boring for me, guess playing a lot of racing games helps.

I play racing games pretty often actually. Wouldn't playing a certain genre a lot make someone more sensitive to it not feeling right or whatever?

A person that didnt play a ton of racing games I think would be quicker to say 'Yeah this is fine. Its the third game with a car I've ever played.'

*Cure* · 06-28-2015, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

I'm pretty darn efficient with the Batmobile in races/chases. It doesn't feel clunky at all. Y'all mustn't play that many racing games I take it.

It sure isn't getting boring for me, guess playing a lot of racing games helps.

What a presumptuous asshole. I play tons of racing games. I don't get why people have to try so hard to justify them liking something.

It's the cycle of Batman games. The people who love it just can't handle people being like "It's good, but it has real problems with such and such".

Peanut · 06-28-2015, 11:23 PM

These last two pages are the reason I loathe tent pole AAA titles with any amount of name brand recognition, excessive marketing, or nostalgic value.

*ProactiveMan* · 06-29-2015, 04:11 AM

I'm having a lot of fun in Arkham Knight, but it took some getting used to. I didn't like the Batmobile to begin with, but I'm getting the hang of it. I won't disagree that the controls are bad. The inconsistency between car and combat mode hurts your brain and makes you suck.

Just my opinion, but it's an impressive game, despite its flaws.

*THGhost* · 06-29-2015, 11:41 AM

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What a presumptuous asshole. I play tons of racing games. I don't get why people have to try so hard to justify them liking something.

It's the cycle of Batman games. The people who love it just can't handle people being like "It's good, but it has real problems with such and such".

Wait, you thought I was being serious? How presumptuous of you! Tongue smilies are there for a reason.

Your avatar is making me feel like Harry Styles called me an asshole. I have no idea what to make of that.

I think being good at controlling the Batmobile all depends on the player. Keep practicing, I will admit it took some getting used to at first.

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These last two pages are the reason I loathe tent pole AAA titles with any amount of name brand recognition, excessive marketing, or nostalgic value.

Arkham Knight does appear have to taken over this thread, hasn't it?

My favourite part of Arkham Knight has to be how

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It was really well done.

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*Cure* · 06-29-2015, 12:01 PM

It's not presumptuous to take what someone said at face value.

Peanut · 06-29-2015, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

Arkham Knight does appear have to taken over this thread, hasn't it?

That's not the issue I have with this stuff. Like...at all.

*THGhost* · 06-29-2015, 12:42 PM

Anyone looking forward to the Mad Max game?

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Originally Posted by Peanut

That's not the issue I have with this stuff. Like...at all.

Then what is? I'm not sure I understood.

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Originally Posted by Cure

It's not presumptuous to take what someone said at face value.

I'll try to make my jokes/sarcasm a little more obvious next time then.

*The Stryker* · 06-29-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by THGhost

I think being good at controlling the Batmobile all depends on the player. Keep practicing, I will admit it took some getting used to at first

Its not that I'm having trouble getting through sections or can't grasp the controls. I get it. I get through them fine.

Its just that they aren't particularly fun or entertaining. It's a slog and it happens constantly. THAT is my problem with it.

*Cure* · 06-29-2015, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

Its not that I'm having trouble getting through sections or can't grasp the controls. I get it. I get through them fine.

Its just that they aren't particularly fun or entertaining. It's a slog and it happens constantly. THAT is my problem with it.

Yeah, that's the thing with it. It's frustrating it happens so often.

*THGhost* · 06-29-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

Its not that I'm having trouble getting through sections or can't grasp the controls. I get it. I get through them fine.

Its just that they aren't particularly fun or entertaining. It's a slog and it happens constantly. THAT is my problem with it.

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Yeah, that's the thing with it. It's frustrating it happens so often.

Ahh, I see. You're right, it can get frustrating. All I can suggest is that you keep at it, you'll get used to it eventually. It did take me a while at first. I found it easier to use in combat once I'd upgraded it. Being able to dodge twice in quick succession made avoiding incoming attacks a lot easier.

*Cure* · 06-29-2015, 01:23 PM

No one is asking for your advice or suggestions, Goddamn. Everyone knows what they do and don't like, that's it.

*Netkeeper* · 06-29-2015, 01:33 PM

*THGhost* · 06-29-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure

No one is asking for your advice or suggestions, Goddamn. Everyone knows what they do and don't like, that's it.

Aye carumba...

06-29-2015, 04:11 AM	#9070
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	I'm having a lot of fun in Arkham Knight, but it took some getting used to. I didn't like the Batmobile to begin with, but I'm getting the hang of it. I won't disagree that the controls are bad. The inconsistency between car and combat mode hurts your brain and makes you suck. Just my opinion, but it's an impressive game, despite its flaws. __________________ ProactiveMan!

06-29-2015, 12:01 PM	#9072
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	It's not presumptuous to take what someone said at face value. __________________

06-29-2015, 01:23 PM	#9078
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	No one is asking for your advice or suggestions, Goddamn. Everyone knows what they do and don't like, that's it. __________________

06-29-2015, 01:33 PM	#9079
Netkeeper tactical blackquill Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas, but not for much longer Posts: 3,645	__________________

06-28-2015, 05:33 PM	#9061
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm looking forward to giving it a try. To be fair to those who say they enjoy it, I will say I've seen/heard a lot of people who bought it say that tinkering with the controls does help. I think this is why they held back so much on having a playable Batmobile in past games the first place despite people begging for it. I think they kind of knew that it wouldn't work as well in practice as people imagined it would. They got kind of stuck with having to give people something they wanted despite not really having the time and resources to execute it organically and to make it as good as it could've been. Can't be easy basically stapling two completely different types of games together.

06-28-2015, 05:40 PM	#9062
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,894	As someone who has now completed about 90% of the missions in Arkham Knight, I honestly think it might be my least favorite Arkham game, and this is coming from someone who loved all 3 previous games, even Origins. The game definitely has some cool moments and great gameplay, but almost all the big set pieces or puzzles are designed around the Batmobile. Then there's all the god awful "tank battles" where you have to sit there shooting 30 tanks with missiles in one spot. This wouldn't be so bad if it didn't happen continuously throughout the entire game and they made a long-winded sidequest out of it too. So you have to do this almost 20 times throughout the game. I think what also bothers me is you don't really get that "Metroid" like vibe from this game where you re-explore areas multiple times to find new stuff like you did in previous Arkham games. Sure all the Riddler trophy stuff is still there, but I mean for the actual main gameplay or story. Its still a good game, but I'm honestly legitimately disappointed. Especially since everyone hyped Rocksteady up for years and how they would deliver a true next-gen Batman experience...its really just more of the same with prettier graphics and half the game designed around the Batmobile. I'd recommend playing it for everyone, but you will definitely hate the Batmobile sections after a while. Its even worse when you realize there are at least 3 major boss battles in the game with the Batmobile. shudders

06-28-2015, 05:43 PM	#9063
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Sounds kinda like since this was the last game in the series they had to overcompensate for not having the Batmobile in earlier games by getting as much mileage as possible out of it in this one.

06-28-2015, 06:33 PM	#9065
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,894	Arkham Origins definitely had the best boss fights of the series. Firefly in this game was a joke, but his boss battle in Origins was great. Also the Bane fight in Origins was lightyears above Asylums. I won't say anymore to avoid spoilers, but I also think the side missions in Arkham Knight are the worst of the 3 games. It really reminded me of Assassin's Creed or Far Cry with the towers and checkpoints and stuff.

06-28-2015, 11:23 PM	#9069
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	These last two pages are the reason I loathe tent pole AAA titles with any amount of name brand recognition, excessive marketing, or nostalgic value.