Rocky spinoff announced

*turtlefanforever* · 04-29-2014, 01:34 PM

A rocky spinoff called 'Creed' has just been announced. Stallone will be in it playing Balboa but it is centered around Apollo creeds grandson

*MikeandRaph87* · 04-29-2014, 03:11 PM

This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1407895

*Whatswiththeheadbands?* · 04-29-2014, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1407895

I personally think that Rocky Balboa finished it off perfectly.

Saying that though, I'm interested to see how they might pull off this spinoff.

*chrisdude* · 04-29-2014, 03:32 PM

I'm down. I think Rocky V was the best ending, but I see the merit in Rocky Balboa, and I think that was a solid ending, too. As long as Rocky stays out of the ring, I have no objections with this idea.

DonnyMac · 04-29-2014, 07:52 PM

I heard about this last year, this could be an interesting idea, but after the end of Rocky Balboa, which I loved, I don't think we need anymore Rocky movies, spinoff or not

*turtlefanforever* · 06-30-2015, 08:07 PM

first trailer released. Not interested in it.

PangolinFeets · 06-30-2015, 08:18 PM

Oh look. I found it. :p

I'm a sucker for boxing movies and I love the idea of Rocky training Apollo's son. Looking forward to this.

*MikeandRaph87* · 06-30-2015, 08:27 PM

I just found it on Youtube. It looks okay, nothing special. I remember in the months before Rocky VI/Balboa hit theatres there were rumors that Mason Dixon was Apollo's son. Then this project materialized. I love the Rocky series its just one of those examples of a franchise not knowing when to stop.

*sdp* · 06-30-2015, 08:46 PM

I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.

Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie..

*turtlefanforever* · 06-30-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.

Tarver might do it. Tarver just came out of retirement actually. is going to be fighting on Spike PBC

*MikeandRaph87* · 06-30-2015, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago.

Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie..

Apollo died in 1985. he had an elementary aged son and daughter at the time with his wife. Michael B. Jordan is my age, born in 1987, two years later so the actor would have to play older than he is. One thing to keep in mind is when Rock 5 begins he, Adrian, and Paulie are still in Russia yet five years real time and seemingly around their bubble five years real time passed as their son had aged about five years. However, Robert was born in late 1979 and the movie takes place in 1990. Robert in Rocky 5 is clearly 13/14 in the film so you can through time passage out the window with the Rocky series chronology especially between films.

*oldmanwinters* · 06-30-2015, 09:13 PM

I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year.

Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer.

Also, Stallone is SO OLD.

*MikeandRaph87* · 06-30-2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year.

Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer.

Also, Stallone is SO OLD.

Do you think it may not be real time but set a few years back? It make it a bit more believable. Rocky Balboa came out in late 2006. Lets say this film takes place in 2007 and Apollo's son watches the fight he had with Mason Dixon and seeks him out to train him in response perhaps Duke would send him? Its a small stretch but not as much of one as it could presented in the film.

Purse Grabbin Puke · 07-03-2015, 01:37 PM

First of all, I love the Rocky movies so very much. I think Creed looks amazing.

Now to the age debate. Apollo's wife could have been pregnant when he died in Rocky IV. So that would have him born '86 or '87. Now, even if they don't go that route, the Rocky movies have thrown out any and all continuity when it comes to the passage of time. Rocky II Rocky Jr is born, in Rocky III he's a small child, in Rocky IV he's about 3 or 4 years old. Rocky V opens with Rocky returning to America after Fighting Drago in Rocky IV and Rocky Jr is now 12 or 13. So it does not matter when he was born because they've already changed the timeline way worse than they could possibly do for Creed.

*BubblyShell22* · 07-03-2015, 03:58 PM

This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him.

Purse Grabbin Puke · 07-04-2015, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him.

The actor you're talking about is Michael B. Jordan, and he's great. He starred in a fantastic movie "Fruitvale Station" which was also written and directed by the same writer/director as Creed. You should watch that movie, once you do, you'll have faith that Creed will be a good movie.

*Autbot_Benz* · 09-14-2015, 09:41 PM

New Trailer It looks like Paulie is dead in this movie since this trailer shows his tombstone next to Adrian's

*MikeandRaph87* · 09-14-2015, 10:12 PM

Its like a tradition killing characters off one by one. Paulie died in February 2012. I would have minded him being killed off in Rocky 5. It also confirms he is Apollo's second son who was born after Apollo died. Not crazy about this. Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago.

*chrisdude* · 09-14-2015, 11:07 PM

Personally, I don't think the series has ever gone wrong. Every sequel tells a different and significant part of Rocky's story. It's never just a rehash, it's always a new challenge. I figured Stallone would only do another movie if it kept to that tradition, and I'm glad to see that is the case.

The only real question is whether they'll keep Rocky alive for a whole trilogy.

~~Leo656~~ · 09-15-2015, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago.

No. No, no. Not ever.

When YOU punch Communism to death with your bare (gloved) hands, then you can tell people when to hang 'em up, tough guy.

04-29-2014, 01:34 PM	#1
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	Rocky spinoff announced A rocky spinoff called 'Creed' has just been announced. Stallone will be in it playing Balboa but it is centered around Apollo creeds grandson

04-29-2014, 03:11 PM	#2
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	This was announced last July so its old news. Rocky is an excellent movie but the franchise should have ended with Rocky retiring for good at the end of IV. I think its for the best that this project does not get off the ground personally. http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1407895 __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

04-29-2014, 03:32 PM	#4
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	I'm down. I think Rocky V was the best ending, but I see the merit in Rocky Balboa, and I think that was a solid ending, too. As long as Rocky stays out of the ring, I have no objections with this idea. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

06-30-2015, 08:07 PM	#6
turtlefanforever Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,098	bump first trailer released. Not interested in it.

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PangolinFeets Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,321	Oh look. I found it. :p I'm a sucker for boxing movies and I love the idea of Rocky training Apollo's son. Looking forward to this. __________________ http://www.twitter.com/pangolinfeets http://www.comicartfans.com/galleryd...=3&gcat=106360

04-29-2014, 07:52 PM	#5
DonnyMac Thug Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 68	I heard about this last year, this could be an interesting idea, but after the end of Rocky Balboa, which I loved, I don't think we need anymore Rocky movies, spinoff or not

06-30-2015, 08:27 PM	#8
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	I just found it on Youtube. It looks okay, nothing special. I remember in the months before Rocky VI/Balboa hit theatres there were rumors that Mason Dixon was Apollo's son. Then this project materialized. I love the Rocky series its just one of those examples of a franchise not knowing when to stop. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

06-30-2015, 08:46 PM	#9
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	I marathoned for the first time all the Rocky films this past December when they were on Netflix. I thought the first one was overrated but a nice movie and was happy to finally see a movie and the training scene that is always parodied. Rocky II was a rehash of the first movie but with the ending we all "wanted" in the first movie for better or worse. The third movie is what I expected the first movie to be like. IV was what I expected all the sequels to be like. I found V to be a decent movie, at least as good as all the other sequels, I don't get the hate for it. VI was just a rehash of the first movie but with a different twist, it's again decent like all the sequels but only the first one is above average. I'm ok with this spin-off, since what I liked about V was him passing the torch and training a new generation, I'm a sucker for those stories, so yeah the twist of him turning on Rocky in V was alright but to finally have someone trained by Rocky will be cool. I think he should definitely fight the guy from VI and beat him, whether he's the main antagonist or just a random fight in the movie since I guess he would be a little old to be a "big" threat now since VI did come out a while ago. Isn't he a little young to be Apollo's son, I mean he died in the third movie, when did Rocky have his son? in VI he already seemed in his late 20s making him around 30 now so Creed's son would have to be older. I mean did Apollo get his wife pregnant right before he died? He would still be in his 30s if that happened and he definitely doesn't look in his 30s. Maybe Apollo froze his sperm. but I guess the timeline was never very logical, Rocky was supposed to already be too old to box in the first movie.. Last edited by sdp; 06-30-2015 at 08:56 PM.

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oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,504	I can't imagine any scenario in which Apollo's son would be young enough to be an up-and-coming boxer in a movie released this year. Under any believable timeline, whether you use "real time" or "movie-verse time," I'm pretty sure Apollo's son would be well older than me. And as I approach the age of 32, I'm pretty sure I'd qualify for veteran status if I was a professional boxer. Also, Stallone is SO OLD. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

07-03-2015, 01:37 PM	#14
Purse Grabbin Puke Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: 'merica Posts: 731	First of all, I love the Rocky movies so very much. I think Creed looks amazing. Now to the age debate. Apollo's wife could have been pregnant when he died in Rocky IV. So that would have him born '86 or '87. Now, even if they don't go that route, the Rocky movies have thrown out any and all continuity when it comes to the passage of time. Rocky II Rocky Jr is born, in Rocky III he's a small child, in Rocky IV he's about 3 or 4 years old. Rocky V opens with Rocky returning to America after Fighting Drago in Rocky IV and Rocky Jr is now 12 or 13. So it does not matter when he was born because they've already changed the timeline way worse than they could possibly do for Creed. __________________ Oh you don't like my opinion? ---->

07-03-2015, 03:58 PM	#15
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	This looks pretty interesting in that Rocky will be mentoring his opponent's son. I've seen footage from this, and it looks really cool. The actor who plays Apollo's son is really good and I've heard good things about him. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

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MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Its like a tradition killing characters off one by one. Paulie died in February 2012. I would have minded him being killed off in Rocky 5. It also confirms he is Apollo's second son who was born after Apollo died. Not crazy about this. Rocky as a movie series needed to wrap up a long time ago. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

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chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	Personally, I don't think the series has ever gone wrong. Every sequel tells a different and significant part of Rocky's story. It's never just a rehash, it's always a new challenge. I figured Stallone would only do another movie if it kept to that tradition, and I'm glad to see that is the case. The only real question is whether they'll keep Rocky alive for a whole trilogy.