Be Cool Scooby Doo

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by DarkFell

Hey Zarius, YouTube pulled the video because of WB reasons. Just a heads up.

Will update the first post. Thanks.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Wildcat: I see what you're getting at, but I'm old enough now to see how "Something Existed Once" is in no way a reason for it to exist Again. Let's get off of cartoons into other popular shows. The Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family were super-popular. They were also F'n stupid. Beyond Stupid. And also, totally a product of their own era. Nobody's crying for those shows to be revived NOW, decades after they were popular or relevant, just because "Hey, it made money once!" Stuff needs to be left where it died, not dug up, injected with zombie serum and propped up once again "just 'cause." And if you HAVE to revive stuff, there's a ton of way better and less-cheesy stuff they can pick from.

I know, I'm a sourpuss. I'm pretty sure they need to stop doing Garfield and Popeye shows, too. Inspector Gadget. All stuff I really loved, that worked exactly ONCE, and everything since has been the sh*ts. Just Don't Do That, Do Something Else. Really not complicated.

Thats YOUR opinion. Which is fine but don't write off these franchises for everybody just because you find them unnecessary.

Things become popular and stay around or come back after awhile. Thats how franchises work.

Also using the Brady Bunch is a bad comparison. Cartoon revivals work better than live action. I don't even see how Scooby Doo only works in one era anyway. A group of friends with a talking dog that fight monsters, sometimes portrayed as real. That sounds exactly like something kids would like in any era.

Same with your other examples. All things that would appeal to kids and older fans too who still likes them.

[Leo656]

You're right. Lately I'm having serious problems understanding why so many people close to my age are unreasonably obsessed with things totally inappropriate for them. Not even in a nostalgic way, but in an overblown, "I'm injecting way more importance and value into these things than they ever actually had" kind of way.

Scooby-Doo, of all things. Not "Hah, that show was cute when I was 5." No, it's "We need to keep running a one-note joke into the ground forever BECAUSE I liked it when I was 5."

Sh*t's corny, and that's my Official Position.

[sdp]

Voltron has had two failed revivals, there is no interest and not a lot of potential, now that is an example of a product of its time. I like it for what it is but it isn't much more. Thundercats I do think had great potential for a revival, I rewatched the show and the mythology of the show was amazing so much material to work with for a new show that isn't restricted by the writing of the 80s, I never saw the revival but apparently not only was it terrible but people didn't like it. He-Man is just a franchise I could never get into or find any appeal, I just don't see what is interesting in it but I do see how companies would find it hard to market a character such as He-Man. SD on the other hand has been able to connect with different generations through out the years for one reason or another. I'm not grasping at straws for mentioning wrestling, I was just using it as an analogy so you'd understand better, in fact isn't it wrestling that is trying to use SD's fame with DTV movies? The fact that you mention how by the book SD is and your example pretty much only works for the Where are you and immediate sequels shows you don't understand how the franchise has kept itself fresh, whether its from being tongue in cheek, to being more serious, to it being an adventure show etc. At the end of the day its the people who vote and no you cannot just shove something down peoples throat for so many decades or else TV would be full of the same sh-t franchises, and all the revivals would be successful.

Just because it was already done once doesn't mean it can't be done in a new way or new people don't want to see it, SD is just not for you. This new take is comedic and is doing new things that hasn't been done. You can inject too much new into a formula and it doesn't work anymore like the many revivals of Inspector Gadget. And ironic that someone who wants to push for new while in the other thread you criticize the Vixen cartoon because its too "new" and you'd rather have more of what you already know.

My point is S-D is not for you but the franchise has more than earned its place and iconic status. I like SD but I don't think everything it does is amazing but I respect that it continues to evolve and make people like their universe for whatever reason, it usually has a nice mix of things. Sure if you want better mystery cartoons or comedy cartoons you can find them but that doesn't make SD any less relevant unlike a show like The Simpsons.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by sdp

Voltron has had two failed revivals, there is no interest and not a lot of potential, now that is an example of a product of its time. I like it for what it is but it isn't much more.

Oh, totally... that's why Power Rangers ran for two decades and they're doing another movie. Because "it's a product of its time". It's the same exact thing with a different name! Voltron "fails" to get a revival because its popularity was usurped by Power Rangers, and now kids who grew up with the latter think Voltron is just a rip-off, so they don't see the point in it. And I guess there isn't, anymore, for that reason; you really don't need both. But come ON, just from a story standpoint ALONE, it's INFINITELY more interesting than Scooby-Doo. Come ON already. You're getting way too defensive over a cartoon show that was even trashed by lots and lots of people when it was fresh.

My point in naming all those other shows is, there's at least Story Potential there. You could still tell good and really interesting stories in the Voltron, Thundercats, or He-Man universe. But they've already told every possible "good" story about a bunch of kids, their dog, and their Bang Bus van. You CAN'T stretch that any more thin than they already have.

And Vixen getting a show makes zero sense from a logical and business-oriented position. Even people who read comics have no idea who she is. Meanwhile, characters who fans BEG to get a show, never get a show. I don't care if you think it makes sense. It doesn't. It has nothing to do with "familiar" or "new vs. old", it has to do with Nobody Asked For That Show.

And nobody over the age of 5 actually cares if they do any more episodes of Scooby F'n Doo. If that actually brightens up your day, then congratulations on being so easily amused. People our age shouldn't give a sh*t.

F***ing Jinkies.

[sdp]

Again, I like Scooby-Doo but I'm far from a huge fan. I don't care if many people don't like SD and I'm not trying to convince them that it's more than what it actually it is. The only reason I'm defending it because you have this outlandish view that just because you don't like it the franchise should cease to exist because in your eyes its irrelevant in today's world which I have already pointed out that the majority of the world population disagrees with you. Why are you making such a fuss over a cartoon character you don't care about? Let others enjoy it, how does it harm you? I couldn't care less for He-Man but if a new show is announced I'll just ignore it and let the fans and new comers enjoy it and get whatever they get out of it.

[Leo656]

I'd just prefer resources be put towards other things.

[sdp]

Oh btw, the japanese version of Power Rangers came out before the japanese version of Voltron so technically Voltron is the rip-off

[Leo656]

My point was that the concept itself is continually "over" regardless of what they name it, but good work.

[Raph's Girl]

Singer/Actress/Comedian Kate Micucci, who voiced Irma in the Nick TMNT series till it was revealed Irma was really Gilbert Gottfried in disguise, has announced on Facebook that she has been cast as Velma.

https://www.facebook.com/katemicuccifans

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Singer/Actress/Comedian Kate Micucci, who voiced Irma in the Nick TMNT series till it was revealed Irma was really Gilbert Gottfried in disguise, has announced on Facebook that she has been cast as Velma.

https://www.facebook.com/katemicuccifans

Neat casting, though kinda weird Velma was the only role re-casted while everyone else remains the same.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by M.O.D.O.K.

Neat casting, though kinda weird Velma was the only role re-casted while everyone else remains the same.

Mindy Cohn mentioned on Twitter that she's still gonna be doing Velma for the straight to DVD films and games. I guess they're just simply going for a different direction for this new show.

[TigerClaw]

Yesterday IGN had an interview with the members of Kiss, Talking about the latest animated Scooby Doo movie featuring them.

[ZariusTwo]

Series premiers tomorrow (although I see it's already been airing in the UK on our Boomerang channel)

[ssjup81]

That art style is creepy...

[Candy Kappa]

That looked so uncanny... Like, as if it was a short cameo in a entirely different show. Something closer to Mysteri Inc. would have looked better.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Something closer to Mysteri Inc. would have looked better.

To be fair, all Scooby-Doo material pales in comparison to Mystery Inc.

[Candy Kappa]

True, but Mysteri Inc. felt more like an update to the old designs to fit a modern show. This is less redesign, and feels more like the Scoody gang is going to be featured in Gravity Falls rather then their own show.

I donno, it just looks weird.

[Raph's Girl]

After seeing the first episode well. The animation is still weird but I kinda liked it. It was pretty funny, the whole thing with the puppets didn't get old and was dropped (litterally). The upgrades on the mystery machine are kinda odd tho.

If I understand it right there'll be a new ep every night this week. Then for the next 2 weeks there'll just be 2 eps on Mondays and Thursdays...then 26 - 30th there'll be a daily ep... weird schedule. But that's just the schedule for the U.S. I guess it only airs Sundays in the UK and will premeir on teletoon in Canada on the 8th (Thursday)

[Etsyturtle2]

Nooo, this looks like family guy. Saw it yesterday. It's stupid.