TMNT renewed for Season 5

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

If future seasons become as bad as season 3 was (easily the worst so far), then maybe it should have ended sooner than later.

Season 3 hasn't been bad at all, there were pacing problems (mostly do to the hiatus), and too much filler in Northampton, but other than that its the same as usual.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Season 3 hasn't been bad at all, there were pacing problems (mostly do to the hiatus), and too much filler in Northampton, but other than that its the same as usual.

Poor stories. Poor usage of characters like Raphael and Michelangelo. Characters just mishandled or thrown away and forgotten (Mutagen Man/Timothy, Karai), wasted potential (like the whole Dark Raph thing...I know they weren't going to do anything with it, but they could have), just 'reference 50 horror films' for the first half of the season, lackluster amounts of emotion when compared to the first two seasons, like you said 'too much filler', nothing memorable & not a single 'stand-out' episode like in seasons before, arcs going nowhere (remember all the 'talk' when the 'April giving Don a peck' stuff came out in just sketches? Yeah, that scene was in it. But did it go anywhere? Accomplish anything? Nope. Still as Square One), etc.

And now they are adding girlfriends for Mikey & Raph? Is that the 'creativity' for this show? "We Don't know what to do with these characters because we can't write them as well as we could or give them even a tiny amount of depth or creativity...so throw in a 'possible girlfriend' which will lead to nowhere like the whole leo/Karai and don/april/casey thing". Yippee.

Glad you loved it. Speaking for myself? No thanks.

[Splinter the boss]

I agree, it's not bad at all. I actually enjoy it. And also the Kraang have won the battle in the invasion, master Splinter was gone. There was nothing the turtles could do until they knew master Splinter survived and were given quests, everything got back to normal and even better.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by Splinter the boss

I agree, it's not bad at all. I actually enjoy it. And also the Kraang have won the battle in the invasion, master Splinter was gone. There was nothing the turtles could do until they knew master Splinter survived and were given quests, everything got back to normal and even better.

Yeah...quests that went nowhere, didn't really accomplish anything, didn't make the characters grow at all, and were pretty quickly forgotten about. Mikey is still the 'idiot who no one takes seriously'. Raph is still the 'useless hothead who is inconsequential to the greater scheme of things'. All that's changed is Leo's voice and he can heal (which will be for that one episode and probably never mentioned again).

Once again, wasted potential.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

4kids Triceraton arc was great and much improved over the Mirage version. I recall people complaining because it was a 5 parter and people were eager to get them back to Earth for some reason.

I don't know why but whenever the Turtles leave NYC everyone is always in a rush to see them get back.

When I watched the 2k3 triceraton arc I was surprised that it finished so quickly. I guess you can see the difference between watching something once a week to binge watching.

[Splinter the boss]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Yeah...quests that went nowhere, didn't really accomplish anything, didn't make the characters grow at all, and were pretty quickly forgotten about. Once again, wasted potential.

I would not say that. After all, We did see Raphael with the vision quest outfit in a
a clip on this forum.
And think about it, they're bringing the triceratons back. I couldn't have asked better.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The show doesn't need to end until its no longer profitable. The TMNT lore is so deep it could go on for a decade.

Spongebob is still profitable. Doesn't mean the quality remains there.

It's not that some of us want the series to end, it's that we want it to end on a high note before decay sets in. Simpsons' decline heavily started about Season 9 or 10, when the last of the old writers left. Spongebob's is really bad right now, it's about Season 15, OT TMNT's decline started after the first couple seasons, and didn't pick back up until around Red Sky.

Each series has a finite 'shelf life' that after that, it risks goes downhill and not being like it was. It's either old writers leaving, producers moving on, or VAs dying. I'm actually glad to have a 5th season ('cause Triceratons) but after that I hope to see things really start to get wrapped up (maybe everything in season 6) since I have seen too many franchise zombies from once healthy series.

[neatoman]

Not to mention that The Simpsons has been running for 25 years and the last 15 years haven't been that great, so at this point the part of the show people hate make up the majority. So that's really not doing wonders for it's overall reputation...

[CyberCubed]

Simpsons being a comedy doesn't put it in the same thing as TMNT. Humor has changed, Simpsons characters have gotten stagnant, etc.

Nick TMNT should last at least 7 seasons, although part of me is hoping it can outlast the original cartoon and be the first TMNT series to hit 200 episodes.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Simpsons being a comedy doesn't put it in the same thing as TMNT. Humor has changed, Simpsons characters have gotten stagnant, etc.

Nick TMNT should last at least 7 seasons, although part of me is hoping it can outlast the original cartoon and be the first TMNT series to hit 200 episodes.

Quantity of episodes is not an achievement if quality declines.

The question should be "Can Nick's TMNT last for seven GOOD seasons?" It's possible... but just wanting to hit a set number without any quality qualifications is dangerous.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Quantity of episodes is not an achievement if quality declines.

The question should be "Can Nick's TMNT last for seven GOOD seasons?" It's possible... but just wanting to hit a set number without any quality qualifications is dangerous.

The original series holds the record of lasting for 10 seasons, I'm sure the Nick series can last beyond the 7th season, There are so many stories to tell, It can literally borrow from any version of TMNT.

[Splinter the boss]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

Poor stories. Poor usage of characters like Raphael and Michelangelo. Characters just mishandled or thrown away and forgotten (Mutagen Man/Timothy, Karai), wasted potential (like the whole Dark Raph thing...I know they weren't going to do anything with it, but they could have), just 'reference 50 horror films' for the first half of the season, lackluster amounts of emotion when compared to the first two seasons, like you said 'too much filler', nothing memorable & not a single 'stand-out' episode like in seasons before, arcs going nowhere (remember all the 'talk' when the 'April giving Don a peck' stuff came out in just sketches? Yeah, that scene was in it. But did it go anywhere? Accomplish anything? Nope. Still as Square One), etc.

And now they are adding girlfriends for Mikey & Raph? Is that the 'creativity' for this show? "We Don't know what to do with these characters because we can't write them as well as we could or give them even a tiny amount of depth or creativity...so throw in a 'possible girlfriend' which will lead to nowhere like the whole leo/Karai and don/april/casey thing". Yippee.

Glad you loved it. Speaking for myself? No thanks.

I just wanted to say that
I made some research, and that I wanted to make some clarifications.

The show got better after vision quest storywise and we got better actions. However I agree with with you when you mentioned Raph and Mikey's love interests.

I don't think they should try to mix too much of that stuff into the show. It reduces its value in that way.

Once again there are some episodes I haven't watched yet.

[NinjaPug]

Anybody see the part of the panel where they mentioned being renewed for the 5th season? I think I've watched all of the videos posted but haven't seen that part.

[Foombamaroom]

As long as the quality is there, I'm fine. Season 3 has easily been the weakest season of TMNT 2012, but in all honesty, it's still a fun watch. Season 2 is still my favorite just because of the emotion in all of the episodes, like episodes 7, 19, 22, and 25-26. But now that there's going to be at least 5 seasons, maybe we're right about "each Turtle getting their own season" thing? I mean, Season 2 was more about Donnie than any other Turtle, Season 3 is clearly centered around Leo, and with Mona Lisa in season 4, I'm hoping season 4 is about Raph, and Season 5 could be about Mikey?

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Now that there's going to be at least 5 seasons, maybe we're right about "each Turtle getting their own season" thing? I mean, Season 2 was more about Donnie than any other Turtle, Season 3 is clearly centered around Leo, and with Mona Lisa in season 4, I'm hoping season 4 is about Raph, and Season 5 could be about Mikey?

I really hope you're right.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Anybody see the part of the panel where they mentioned being renewed for the 5th season? I think I've watched all of the videos posted but haven't seen that part.

Do you assume a Season 5 hasn't been greenlit and was speculation that got posted as fact around?

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Mugic

Care to explain why?

I just wasn't feeling it. It wasn't interesting and just bored me, though there were some funny moments like when they escaped from the prison and Raph yelled, "Spooons!" But that was it really. I just wasn't into it.

Originally Posted by Cure

Yeah, I can agree with this. The 4kids show was already kind of a bummer for me but when they went to space I was like hmmmmm. But I have more confidence in this version.

Yeah, I think they'll make it interesting enough to keep us going. Heck, in the 2003 series, I never liked the Don centered episodes because I thought they were boring, but I don't find them boring in the Nick show. So that tells you right there that the quality of writing is good if I can stay tuned into it instead of wishing the episode would end.

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Hopefully, this will be the last season. I don't want the show to drag on endlessly.

Originally Posted by Metalwolf

Spongebob is still profitable. Doesn't mean the quality remains there.

It's not that some of us want the series to end, it's that we want it to end on a high note before decay sets in. Simpsons' decline heavily started about Season 9 or 10, when the last of the old writers left. Spongebob's is really bad right now, it's about Season 15, OT TMNT's decline started after the first couple seasons, and didn't pick back up until around Red Sky.

Each series has a finite 'shelf life' that after that, it risks goes downhill and not being like it was. It's either old writers leaving, producers moving on, or VAs dying. I'm actually glad to have a 5th season ('cause Triceratons) but after that I hope to see things really start to get wrapped up (maybe everything in season 6) since I have seen too many franchise zombies from once healthy series.

Thank you! I have been trying to tell Cybercubed this even before news got out for a fifth season. I don't care what kind of money Nick makes out of this. It needs to end on a high note, not drag on where fans begin to hate it like the later Simpsons or Spongebob years. Or worse: the last episode of Lost. Technically, the majority didn't like the last 2 seasons of the 2k3 series. So, if Nick wants to be smart about this, they should end the show by the 5th season.

[Powder]

Anyone who wants the show to end early is a fool. There's 30 years of quality material to pull from. In the right hands, the show could span 10 seasons or more without even being close to running on fumes. You've got at least 5-6 key iterations whose stories/concepts/characters can be borrowed, in addition to the influence of Playmates & original content from the creative team.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Powder

Anyone who wants the show to end early is a fool. There's 30 years of quality material to pull from. In the right hands, the show could span 10 seasons or more without even being close to running on fumes. You've got at least 5-6 key iterations whose stories/concepts/characters can be borrowed, in addition to the influence of Playmates & original content from the creative team.

And so many characters who had action figures, That have yet to appear on the show.