Paul Rudd to play Ant-Man

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Because getting drunk is mainstream. Slapping around your wife isn't.

I think what you mean to say CyberCubed is that seeing self-destructive alcoholism is more tolerable to a mainstream audience rather than witnessing spousal abuse on film/television (whether it's alcohol-influenced or not).

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

Ant-Man is set to be released after Avengers 2.
A2 is set for May 2015.
Ant-Man for July 2015.
Ant-Man wasn't in the cards until Edgar Wright approached them to make the movie. I would be heavily surprised if Ant-Man plays any part in A2... but it WOULD be nice is A2 set up the character or events for the upcoming Ant-Man.

They've been talking about an Ant-Man movie for a while now. And I'm pretty sure I remember them originally wanting to have Wasp be a part of Avengers 1, but decided against it.

But yeah, I just hope that Ultron's creation is somehow related to Pym.

[CyberCubed]

Is Ant-man also going to become giant in the film? Or are they only going to show him get really small?

[TigerClaw]

a new TV Spot reveals that,

Spoiler:

The Falcon will be in Ant-Man.

[NinjaPug]

Spoiler that **** man

[CyberCubed]

If they're showing something in commercials airing on TV I don't think that's a spoiler, its something Marvel wants people to know before going into the movie.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If they're showing something in commercials airing on TV I don't think that's a spoiler, its something Marvel wants people to know before going into the movie.

Just like James Cameron wanted everyone to know that John Conner was a

Spoiler:

Terminator before they even saw the movie?

No, the people who splice together TV spots and trailers aren't always making decisions that the director agrees with.

[NinjaPug]

Yeah, you hear all the time about how the production folks are pissed at what marketing uses to promote their movies. Regarding Ant-Man, if Marvel production wanted people to know then they would've already announced it. Feige and Peyton Reed have both been asked about this character in question appearing in Ant-Man and they both gave a 'no comment' response.

I'll never understand why marketing has free reign to ruin a movie without the blessing of the folks who actually put the movie together.

[ToTheNines]

Just got back, it was righteous. So funny and a ton of good performances. So psyched for Scott's inclusion in Civil War and Avengers 3.

[Vicky82]

I just got back from seeing it. I don't even want to hurt any ants now after seeing this. I was avoiding stepping on ants when I was walking home

It was great film a, little boring in parts but the visual effects were amazing, it had some good action scenes and was funny.

Spoiler:

I never expected to see any Avengers appearing. The fight with Falcon was great

[Bry]

Ant-Man was really solid! Surprisingly solid considering the behind-the-scenes issues the movie had. Not the best Marvel movie, but I think it's pretty high on the list. I enjoyed it a lot, and it's nice to see a "smaller", more personal movie in-between big crossover things like Age of Ultron and Civil War.

You can definitely still feel Edgar Wright's influence in the movie, and Peyton Reed did an admirable job bringing it to life. Though you can also tell which sections likely lead to Wright leaving the project -- and like with Joss Whedon and Age of Ultron, they're scenes meant to connect and build the wider MCU, and seem totally unnecessary to the actual plot of the movie (though they're still fun and worthwhile in their own right). That's the tricky balancing act Marvel Studios is performing, and thankfully it's still working for now. But I can see why some filmmakers would have an issue with the constant world-building sometimes distracting from the story they want to tell.

Highly recommended, though! It's a strong introduction to the character and holds up well against most solo Marvel films.

[evan2000]

I just came back from watching it too, completely surprised how much it exceeded my expectation (from just watching the trailer)! I thought it was going to be rather cheesy but it turns out much more believable after I watched it.

Oh, for those who have yet to watch it, remember to stay till the end of the credits to catch BOTH the mid-credits scene and the end-credits scene!

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Spoiler:

I never expected to see any Avengers appearing. The fight with Falcon was great

Spoiler:

I freaked out a little when they realized the "abandoned facility" have been refurbished... into the new Avengers headquarters no less!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Seeing it in a couple of hours with my babe... got my "Dark Knight Rises" shirt on and ready.

Yeah, it's a tradition... I've worn my "Dark Knight Rises" shirt to every Marvel movie since Iron Man 3.

[ZariusTwo]

Just saw it. Surprise surprise, it's another toothless risk-free entry in the MCU.

Pros

Spoiler:

Carter and Howard cameos at the start
Scott's boss firing him but being impressed with his criminal record
The "informant" flashbacks. Both of them. Clever and funny with everyone lipping the same voice.
The initial reactions to shrinking with the suit
Enlargement discs expanding Thomas
The explanation for Janet's fate.
Trying to get through the door
Briefcase skirmish with Disintegration playing.
Hydra involvement. Despite what's happened in AOS, nice to see there's still some fragments of it operating in high stature.
Falcon cameo would have great if not spoiled

The family dinner at the end

Spider-Man reference.

Cons

Spoiler:

Not interested in another origin story, and it takes up most of the film
The heist portion of the film is far too short and pretty easy to pull off despite the breif illusion of danger
Hank should have died. Sorry, I like a little ruthlessness in my movies. What does he truly offer the movie once he resolves his tension with Hope? Nothing.
Would it kill to have more of a Cassie from the comics and not another annoying Disney kid who's too young to process ****ing anything?
Cross is yet another craptastic Marvel villain who's dispatched far too easily
Could have done without the giant ant hiding under the table ruining a nice ordinary moment

Honestly, Phase II has been a real bust for me, and this did nothing to calm my concerns. It's visually stunning and has good humor, but it left me with a vacant feeling...like I'd seen this sort all before...which is understandable given it was meant for a different sort of Phase, a phase we as an audience and Marvel as a production crew are steadily moving away from. As a last gasp for this type of film (origin stories I hear won't be a big deal going forward), it's serviceable enough

***

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

LOVED IT. Second favorite MCU film, after Guardians of the Galaxy.

Except for the terrible bland MCU villain (alas, poor Darren Cross... you were as boring as vanilla sh!t), this totally felt like an Edgar Wright film. So much good humor.

[NinjaPug]

Marvel needs to get Evangeline Lilly in that Wasp suit ASAP.

Or bring Janet back from the Quantum Realm.

Or both.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Marvel needs to get Evangeline Lilly in that Wasp suit ASAP.

Or bring Janet back from the Quantum Realm.

Or both.

Spoiler:

When Scott was in the microverse, I was wishing really hard for a glimpse of Psycho Man. It's also a shame Marvel lost the rights to the Micronaughts

[TigerClaw]

I saw Ant-Man today, Thought it was good.

[TigerClaw]

There's an Easter Egg that nobody hasn't noticed.
http://www.lasertimepodcast.com/2015...talking-about/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Instead of Ant Man 2, how about WASP:

Hope Van Dyne tries to find her missing mother in the Microverse as Wasp. Hank Pym and Scott Lang as supporting characters, but I want the main focus on WASP.

Evangeline Lily deserves to headline, not support. Besides, I'm really tired of male protagonists who are all fighting corrupt businessmen weaponizing tech or being corrupted by it.

Seriously, every non-Thor movie has been about this in some form or fashion:

Iron Man 1: Obadiah Stane weaponizing Iron Man armor
Iron Man 2: Justin Hammer weaponizing Iron Man armor
Captain America 1: Red Skull weaponized by the super soldier serum (and creating bad weapons)
The Incredible Hulk: General Ross weaponizing Banner's research
Iron Man 3: Killian Aldrich weaponizing Extremis
Captain America 2: Alexander Pierce weaponizing the Helicarriers
Avengers 2: Tony Stark weaponizing Iron Man Armor and Loki's Staff AI
Ant Man: Darren Cross weaponizing Pym Particles

The Avengers is sort of a Thor movie, as it's Loki on a rampage...

From this perspective, the Marvel Cinematic Universe is practically Luddite or Amish.