Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Bry

Hmm. What if one accepted they existed, believing they're a different but long-living and powerful species, but not as "gods"? Or is that splitting hairs?

This is exactly how I think they're viewed, just like Thor in Marvel.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

This is exactly how I think they're viewed, just like Thor in Marvel.

You mean how...

• Captain America has met two Norse gods, but still believes in only one God?
• Iron Man has met two Norse gods, but still doesn't believe in gods?
• Bruce Banner has met two Norse gods, and punched the s!!! outta both of them?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its especially noticeable because most of the creators of comic characters are Christian. Like why do the Turtles celebrate Christmas in the Mirage comics and cartoons? Splinter wasn't raised Christian in Japan, its just because Laird/Eastman are Christians so they had the Turtles celebrate it as well.

Except Yule(Christmas) is very popular in Japan, even though only 2% off the population is Christian. After WWII and in the 60's its popularity boomed. Valentine's Day is also big there.

And, Rat!Splinter grew up as a humanoid in USA, where he and the Turtles easily would be influenced by the human holidays and celebrations.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

You mean how...

• Captain America has met two Norse gods, but still believes in only one God?
• Iron Man has met two Norse gods, but still doesn't believe in gods?
• Bruce Banner has met two Norse gods, and punched the s!!! outta both of them?

In Marvel, they are aliens. At least that's what I'm getting from it...I don't like Thor AT ALL so, I might be speaking out of my ass.

[Candy Kappa]

I don't think they are aliens in 616 mainstream universe. Although Marvel seems to be a bit wiffy waffy about it, guess not to "offend" anyone. I mean, they did once insinuate that other gods worshipped the Christian God Yhaweh

That was a awkward and stupid moment.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

I might be speaking out of my ass.

The first step is admitting you have a problem.

[Leo656]

Who the heck doesn't like Thor? C'mon. That cape is bananas. Verily.

[Jester]

This just makes me sad that Marvel never made a Thor movie and cast Kevin Nash as the God of Thunder.

[Leo656]

He would'a killed it.

Although he DID play Odin in the straight-to-DVD film "Almighty Thor", by Asylum.

See?


I haven't seen it, but by all accounts it's aaaaawwwwwful. NOT that it's HIS fault. I'm sure he's perfect in it, as he is in everything. There's only so much you can do with garbage, even if you're as Almighty as Oz.

That silver mullet, though. Sigh.

OH. And Rikki Roxx is the God of Thunder.

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I think it's a stretch to say that most comic creators are Christian, almost as much of a stretch as it is to say that everyone who celebrates Christmas is Christian.

Christmas is a Federal Holiday, which makes it a Secular Holiday.
One need not be Christian to observe it.

Todd Mcfarlane was a catholic when he did Spawn then became an atheist yet used some christian mythology into his Spawn stories.

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by <TmNtRoX-1997>

I'll keep the Nolan trilogy in continuity in my headcanon until big contradictions arise. They give us a great origin and a few adventures when he was "new". Counting how successful TDK trilogy was I doubt they'll contradict it outright, they'll just ignore it since they don't want to be bogged down by its continuity for future films. Same with the new Green Lantern Corps movie and the GL movie we got not too long ago. Movie was fairly decent, it just tried too hard to be like a Marvel movie. We won't be getting a new Hal Jordan origin movie so to me that is going to be Hals origin, doubt it'll be contradicted. Similar to The Incredible Hulk keeping a loose continuity with the Universal Hulk film.

Talking about GL, I remember the SDCC panel when asked about a DC Cintematic Universe, they mentioned they'd just be exploring characters individually without crossing over because simply "DC characters are bigger[well known]", we all saw how that turned out haha..If GL had done fairly well we would've gotten a Flash film after it and eventually a JL film that followed the Marvel cookie cutter formula. At least that bomb made DC re-think their strategy and jump straight into their "multiverse".

http://me.ign.com/en/movies/78174/ne...he-marvel-cine
The Incredible Hulk 2008 is NOT related to the 2003 movie, Universal's Hulk was a licensed movie before Marvel Studios in 2007 and Ang Lee's Hulk is NOT a MCU movie, it's NOT a Marvel film, it does NOT EXIST.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Leo656

He would'a killed it.

Although he DID play Odin in the straight-to-DVD film "Almighty Thor", by Asylum.

See?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yNKQnsdw6i..._nash_odin.jpg

I haven't seen it, but by all accounts it's aaaaawwwwwful. NOT that it's HIS fault. I'm sure he's perfect in it, as he is in everything. There's only so much you can do with garbage, even if you're as Almighty as Oz.

That silver mullet, though. Sigh.

OH. And Rikki Roxx is the God of Thunder.

*adds it to "The List"

Asylum flicks are an acquired taste.

[Leo656]

Every last bit of cinema that magnificent bastard's face has touched has SOME watchable value.

...except that Oz vs. Bill Kazmaier fiasco at Halloween Havoc '91. Ooooof.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

You know he was Gordon in Year One, right?

Originally Posted by Bry

I thought he was a pretty great Gordon in this:

Yeah, I'm aware of that but I mean live action.

Originally Posted by Bry

I think either extreme can be equally blinding -- ignoring nostalgia can mean completely rejecting anything "old", and that can mean ignoring or dismissing a lot of the essential elements that make something work.

I think it's best to have a healthy balance. Don't necessarily cling to everything from older/nostalgic versions, but don't completely throw it all out, either. Some of it still works. Some of it is necessary.

Ignoring nostalgia doesn't mean rejecting all that is old. Nostalgia is just a sentiment associated with something from one's past. That kind of thing can be blinding because it could cloud one's judgement based purely on how special that thing is to them. For instance, the Spider-Man game from Playstation is a nostalgic game to me, but I'm not going to say it's still a great game today, no matter how much it means to me. The game has aged poorly and that's my honest judgement of that game, nostalgia aside.

[Leo656]

New pics.

Look who finally learned how to comb his hair properly... on the wrong side. Ah well, they've done that before.

Spoiler:

People are speculating that he's standing in the charred and burned remains of Wayne Manor.

Just like in the comics, It's Always Raining In Gotham.

[Commenter 42]

It's the small things that make all the difference.

[Bry]

See, that's the thing. I get why some people don't like the trunks, but without them it just looks like a big blue skin-tight onesie. It looks worse. And they've got these ridges and lines slapped onto his hips to try to add some detail and make up for that, but they just look stupid and pointless. They need to break up the blue. If it's not trunks, then go with a red belt. Something. The suit just looks kinda awkward without it.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Bry

See, that's the thing. I get why some people don't like the trunks, but without them it just looks like a big blue skin-tight onesie. It looks worse. And they've got these ridges and lines slapped onto his hips to try to add some detail and make up for that, but they just look stupid and pointless. They need to break up the blue. If it's not trunks, then go with a red belt. Something. The suit just looks kinda awkward without it.

I'm not a fan of the red belt look, so I gave him briefs, but I agree with you. A blue onesie is off putting. It legit looks better. The briefs are toooooo Iconic. F*ck Hollywood.
I flipped the hair just for Leo, and the first comment on the pic was "why is his hair flipping?"

I just hate Snyders color pallet. HATE! It's so heavy handed, and dated. Reminds me of the foggy lens used in th Reeve movies. It instantly dates a movie to a time and place.

No Snyder, desaturation does not eaqual awesome. Stop. Stop, F*CKING STOP!!!

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I'm not a fan of the red belt look, so I gave him briefs, but I agree with you. A blue onesie is off putting. It legit looks better. The briefs are toooooo Iconic. F*ck Hollywood.

Hey, I'm with you. Between a solid blue onesie and a red belt, I'll take the red belt, but neither work as well as the trunks. That costume is the very image of "iconic". Messing with that is dumb, dumb, dumb.

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I just hate Snyders color pallet. HATE! It's so heavy handed, and dated. Reminds me of the foggy lens used in th Reeve movies. It instantly dates a movie to a time and place.

No Snyder, desaturation does not eaqual awesome. Stop. Stop, F*CKING STOP!!!

It's gonna age a lot worse, I think. Aside from the fogginess, the Reeve movies have colour. And simple as it sounds, the real world has colour, and anything that doesn't mostly match that palette is going to look like a dated gimmick many years down the road. IMO, Snyder's desaturation is going to look even dumber than the staggering number of movies uniformly colour-graded orange and teal in the past 10 or so years. And nobody's gonna be defending that once it falls out of style.

Even 37 years from now, I think the overall look of the Donner/Reeve movies will hold up a lot better than Snyder's. (But will the best-looking one be... Superman Returns?)

[Leo656]

The "fix" definitely looks better but it's fine. No, it's not how I would've done it, especially color wise. I agree. But I wasn't in love with the Returns costume, either, and I still love the movie. It's not like being afraid to make the suit look right is a sin unique to Snyder and the current team. Every single time they've done it, going back to Lois & Clark's early concepts, they've tried to change it somehow (and it's funny how that suit was much loathed by many at the time, and has since remained the most faithful version ever since). At least it's not straight-up black with no cape like they've been trying to force on us for 25 years. At this point, with how aggressively WB has tried to f*ck over this project since f*cking 1991, I'm grateful for the little things. I've seen the sh*t they've tried to do; I'm grateful what we're getting is as close as it is.

Even though I totally agree with how and why it could and should be better. I just don't care enough to complain anymore. Maybe I'm just picking my battles more carefully in my old age. I totally agree, though; just do the suit! Why be afraid of it? It works. it's iconic. Just do the suit. But they never will, because "people who know better" (read: make a lot more money) say it doesn't work. So whatever. He doesn't have a jetpack, I'm fine. I'll compromise, to a point, even though I don't like it.

Definitely needs the goddamn trunks, though. Anyone who thinks they don't fit has never worn spandex, or a version of that suit specifically. They're absolutely necessary, seriously.

New pics! http://supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=16769

Couple favs:






Good stuff. He's awesome as Reporter Clark.