fox's fantastic four reboot - Page 7

*NinjaPug* · 08-04-2015, 06:46 PM

Geez, these reviews make the movie sound even worse than I was expecting. Sounds like this might bomb big-time at the box office. I wonder what it would take for Fox to relinquish the rights back to Marvel. I'd love for Marvel to have the rights to Silver Surfer, Galactus and the Skrulls to expand their cosmic universe. Plus I'd love a Secret Invasion storyline in Phase 4 or 5.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-04-2015, 07:25 PM

You know, I don't really MIND the idea of having one of the FF be African-American, but WHY Johnny? It would've made more sense for it to be Ben or Reed. Actually, either one would've been a better idea. All the trailers I've seen so far just make it look boring and dark, and too jarring visually and tonally. This is NOT FF, it's X-Men redux....

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-04-2015, 07:29 PM

Damn those reviews are brutal. I was gonna Redbox this one, but now... I might not even bother. This sounds like it turned out to be the exact same crapfest we all feared way back at the start.

Fox, please don't make the X-Men film series any worse than it already is by crossing over with the Floptastic Four.

*Foombamaroom* · 08-04-2015, 07:36 PM

The only motivation I had for seeing this movie was to see Dr. Doom. See, I didn't have a problem with Johnny being black, I had a problem with literally anything and everything else they did. But my one hope was that they were going to do Doom decently, since they had hidden him from the trailers. Now? Nope. Nopenopenopenopenopenopenope.

The only thing Fox is going to do right is Deadpool. Other than that, the other characters can just...

The worst part is that my mom and brother still want to see it, which means I might be forced to watch it. Help. Me.

*Bry* · 08-04-2015, 07:38 PM

So... any guesses on how many months it'll be until Marvel has the rights back or has a Spidey-style deal in place with Fox?

Or will they both be too petty to make a deal until there's absolutely no choice?

**Jester** · 08-04-2015, 07:46 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Spoiler:

~~Commenter 42~~ · 08-04-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

So... any guesses on how many months it'll be until Marvel has the rights back or has a Spidey-style deal in place with Fox?

Or will they both be too petty to make a deal until there's absolutely no choice?

Gotta be honest here: Fantastic 4 returning to Marvel?

*Foombamaroom* · 08-04-2015, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Spoiler:

I can just imagine the commercials.
"OLD SPICE BODY SPRAY MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE THE THING. CLO-CLO-CLO-CLOBBERING TIME."

*NinjaPug* · 08-04-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

So... any guesses on how many months it'll be until Marvel has the rights back or has a Spidey-style deal in place with Fox?

Or will they both be too petty to make a deal until there's absolutely no choice?

Don't think we'll see a Sony type deal on this one. From what I've read there is a lot of bad blood between Marvel and Fox.

I think Fox will continue to retain the rights as long as they produce another movie within the next 7-8 years. This new one had to be rushed into production so they wouldn't lose the rights. They were really close to the deadline.

*Foombamaroom* · 08-04-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Don't think we'll see a Sony type deal on this one. From what I've read there is a lot of bad blood between Marvel and Fox.

I think Fox will continue to retain the rights as long as they produce another movie within the next 7-8 years. This new one had to be rushed into production so they wouldn't lose the rights. They were really close to the deadline.

Fox is making their superhero profits from X-Men. They're going to continue to milk that franchise as long as they can.

*NinjaPug* · 08-04-2015, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Fox is making their superhero profits from X-Men. They're going to continue to milk that franchise as long as they can.

Which means they'll make a crappy X-Men / F4 crossover movie so they can retain the rights without making another standalone F4 movie that won't make any money.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-04-2015, 10:37 PM

Man, all the Marvel franchises just need to go back to Marvel Studios. Not being able to have total control over how so many of their biggest properties are represented in films is nothing short of a travesty. Especially with how Fox seems to just keep dicking around with things. Their only consistent "success" has been with X-Men, and even then only half of those are any good. I know we're all mentally and emotionally married to the stuff we've been watching for 15 years, but can you imagine how awesome - and possibly even Better - an MCU X-Men might be?

I wish everyone could just admit that the 90s were a huge mistake, it was wrong to license out all their characters to any studio who could pay them, and that Marvel would just cut the damn check to get their all their properties back in-house. Sure, Fox would cry and bitch about it, but if the money was there they'd roll over. I hope it happens one day, this sh*t's getting bonkers.

**Jester** · 08-04-2015, 10:46 PM

Yeah, Disney really needs to just tell Fox and Sony to "Name their price..." and shell out the cash to get all the Marvel IP back.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-05-2015, 10:57 AM

FULLY agree.

The only two excellent XMen movies were X2 and First Class. Days of Future Past was a'ight. The rest... meh.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 08-05-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah, Disney really needs to just tell Fox and Sony to "Name their price..." and shell out the cash to get all the Marvel IP back.

That will never happen, or at least not until the CBM bubble bursts. It's not a matter of Fox owning the IP, it's that Disney doesn't.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 08-05-2015, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

FULLY agree.

The only two excellent XMen movies were X2 and First Class. Days of Future Past was a'ight. The rest... meh.

I respectfully disagree, but I digress. It's sad when the closest thing we have to a good Fantastic Four movie in The Incredibles, and even that's pushing it.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 08-05-2015, 11:53 AM

Marvel is too busy assembling a cinematic universe we don't need to make movies that are better than average.
Come at me.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-05-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

FULLY agree.

The only two excellent XMen movies were X2 and First Class. Days of Future Past was a'ight. The rest... meh.

You meant X2 and DoFP, don't you? First Class was bad on SOO many levels character-wise. Half of the characters in that movie DID NOT BELONG. Days was SOOO much better in every way. Though First Class at least had a decent story adaptation- just needed to change some of the characters involved.

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

I respectfully disagree, but I digress. It's sad when the closest thing we have to a good Fantastic Four movie in The Incredibles, and even that's pushing it.

Yeah, same here, though I really liked the FIRST FF movie. I think everyone just focuses too much on the disappointment of the last half of FF2.

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

Marvel is too busy assembling a cinematic universe we don't need to make movies that are better than average.
Come at me.

Okay, so we'll just ignore the multi-movie story arcs, the fact that having all the characters together allows for more versatility and interactions within the universe, better chances for less known characters to be introduced and do well, and.... Should I go on, or is that enough reason? And how can you say it's not needed? You DO realize we're talking about superheroes who are CONSTANTLY teaming up and all live in the same city, right? They don't live in little bubbles apart from each other, ya' know.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 08-05-2015, 01:03 PM

And I thought what they did to Splinter was bad....

Look the F*ck out true believer, Duct tape Glow-stick man is on the loose!

I'm guessing Trank found his inspiration on youtube?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-05-2015, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

You meant X2 and DoFP, don't you? First Class was bad on SOO many levels character-wise. Half of the characters in that movie DID NOT BELONG. Days was SOOO much better in every way. Though First Class at least had a decent story adaptation- just needed to change some of the characters involved.

The fact that as a "First Class" story, the movie had all of the wrong characters does not mean that it was a bad XMen movie. Especially as it didn't have useless Cyclops, useless Rogue, useless Storm, or Emo Jean Grey. While it might not have had the roster people wanted, it was a GOOD movie.

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Originally Posted by Commenter 42

And I thought what they did to Splinter was bad....

Look the F*ck out true believer, Duct tape Glow-stick man is on the loose!

I'm guessing Trank found his inspiration on youtube?

Wow. That looks NOTHING like Doom. And I'm not a FF fan, I just know how to Google Image!

08-04-2015, 07:25 PM	#122
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	You know, I don't really MIND the idea of having one of the FF be African-American, but WHY Johnny? It would've made more sense for it to be Ben or Reed. Actually, either one would've been a better idea. All the trailers I've seen so far just make it look boring and dark, and too jarring visually and tonally. This is NOT FF, it's X-Men redux.... __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

08-04-2015, 07:29 PM	#123
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Damn those reviews are brutal. I was gonna Redbox this one, but now... I might not even bother. This sounds like it turned out to be the exact same crapfest we all feared way back at the start. Fox, please don't make the X-Men film series any worse than it already is by crossing over with the Floptastic Four. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

08-04-2015, 07:38 PM	#125
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	So... any guesses on how many months it'll be until Marvel has the rights back or has a Spidey-style deal in place with Fox? Or will they both be too petty to make a deal until there's absolutely no choice? __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon

08-04-2015, 07:46 PM	#126
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I've said it before and I'll say it again: Spoiler: __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-04-2015, 10:46 PM	#133
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Yeah, Disney really needs to just tell Fox and Sony to "Name their price..." and shell out the cash to get all the Marvel IP back. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-04-2015, 06:46 PM	#121
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Geez, these reviews make the movie sound even worse than I was expecting. Sounds like this might bomb big-time at the box office. I wonder what it would take for Fox to relinquish the rights back to Marvel. I'd love for Marvel to have the rights to Silver Surfer, Galactus and the Skrulls to expand their cosmic universe. Plus I'd love a Secret Invasion storyline in Phase 4 or 5.

08-04-2015, 07:36 PM	#124
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	The only motivation I had for seeing this movie was to see Dr. Doom. See, I didn't have a problem with Johnny being black, I had a problem with literally anything and everything else they did. But my one hope was that they were going to do Doom decently, since they had hidden him from the trailers. Now? Nope. Nopenopenopenopenopenopenope. The only thing Fox is going to do right is Deadpool. Other than that, the other characters can just... The worst part is that my mom and brother still want to see it, which means I might be forced to watch it. Help. Me.

08-04-2015, 10:37 PM	#132
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Man, all the Marvel franchises just need to go back to Marvel Studios. Not being able to have total control over how so many of their biggest properties are represented in films is nothing short of a travesty. Especially with how Fox seems to just keep dicking around with things. Their only consistent "success" has been with X-Men, and even then only half of those are any good. I know we're all mentally and emotionally married to the stuff we've been watching for 15 years, but can you imagine how awesome - and possibly even Better - an MCU X-Men might be? I wish everyone could just admit that the 90s were a huge mistake, it was wrong to license out all their characters to any studio who could pay them, and that Marvel would just cut the damn check to get their all their properties back in-house. Sure, Fox would cry and bitch about it, but if the money was there they'd roll over. I hope it happens one day, this sh*t's getting bonkers.

08-05-2015, 10:57 AM	#134
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	FULLY agree. The only two excellent XMen movies were X2 and First Class. Days of Future Past was a'ight. The rest... meh. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

08-05-2015, 11:53 AM	#137
~~Amaranthus~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West-Flanders, Belgium Posts: 1,815	Marvel is too busy assembling a cinematic universe we don't need to make movies that are better than average. Come at me.

08-05-2015, 01:03 PM	#139
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	And I thought what they did to Splinter was bad.... Look the F*ck out true believer, Duct tape Glow-stick man is on the loose! I'm guessing Trank found his inspiration on youtube?