Are guys more nostalgic?

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

I still don't see why it has to be a bad thing, or make a person immature. Like, how dare I have fond memories of things I enjoyed from the past.

I can honestly say that I have been made fun of quite a bit for my TMNT shirts. However, people always seem to love my Ducktales shirts. I'm 33 and I love old cartoons and am a Disney Vacation Club member and collect comic books. People aggravate me about all of those things. However, I am also a die hard Steelers fan and am obsessed with pro football and maybe that garners me a little "street cred". LOL. So when I'm around "non geeks", if you will, I just talk about those things even though I'm really passionate about all my fandoms.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

I can honestly say that I have been made fun of quite a bit for my TMNT shirts. However, people always seem to love my Ducktales shirts. I'm 33 and I love old cartoons and am a Disney Vacation Club member and collect comic books. People aggravate me about all of those things. However, I am also a die hard Steelers fan and am obsessed with pro football and maybe that garners me a little "street cred". LOL. So when I'm around "non geeks", if you will, I just talk about those things even though I'm really passionate about all my fandoms.

Ugh. Whatever. I just think we should be able to enjoy what we enjoy without it being looked down on, and without it made out to be an issue of gender, race, religion, or whatever. Everyone else just needs to f*ck off.

[plastroncafe]

Women don't have a sense of nostalgia? Um...please.

Here's the thing, our culture prizes men above women, so things that cater to men have a higher priority. Where as things that women enjoy are often dismissed out of hand or just downright looked down upon.

N*Sync toured again in 2013.
New Kids on the Block are touring now.

There's My Little Pony.
Jem and the Holograms.

And I'm not even going near the properties marketed to boys that girls loved growing up.

You see an absence of female nostalgia, because when you were growing up...you didn't see us standing next to you. And neither did the marketers.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Women don't have a sense of nostalgia? Um...please.

It's not that you females don't ever have it, but just that guys have it more, and it's apparently frowned upon.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Women don't have a sense of nostalgia? Um...please.

Here's the thing, our culture prizes men above women, so things that cater to men have a higher priority. Where as things that women enjoy are often dismissed out of hand or just downright looked down upon.

N*Sync toured again in 2013.
New Kids on the Block are touring now.

There's My Little Pony.
Jem and the Holograms.

And I'm not even going near the properties marketed to boys that girls loved growing up.

You see an absence of female nostalgia, because when you were growing up...you didn't see us standing next to you. And neither did the marketers.

Well my question was are guys "more" nostalgic. I know that women are nostalgic. I'm just saying that maybe men are considered to be more nostalgic since their nostalgia is actually marketed to. I actually mentioned My Little Pony and Jem if you look at one of my posts. I was saying that it even seems that men are even more nostalgic toward My Little Pony. Do you have a lot of friends that are girls that like TMNT? Just out of curiosity. I knew girls when I was a kid that were fans of TMNT but most of them liked Treasure Trolls and Barbies and things like that. However, the Disney Afternoon seemed to be quite popular among both sexes.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

It's not that you females don't ever have it, but just that guys have it more, and it's apparently frowned upon.

I think a lot of the "frowning upon" stuff is more just about being macho and all that. I don't really have anything to prove. I'm married. I have kids. It's not like I need to impress people. Someone once tried to give me some jazz about a TMNT shirt and how it was a shirt for "little kids" and I said "Obviously, since they make it in adult sizes." LOL. I've also found it to be a sort of "pack mentality" with dogging on nostalgic fandom. GROUPS of guys are more likely to pick on something like that but when it's just YOU and THEM they sorta tend to talk about how they always loved TMNT back in the day and then share their memories of how cool they thought it was. I've had that happen before. Have you experienced that as well?

[IndigoErth]

Meh, if we're only talking entertainment media, look at the material. Things aimed at the boys (but, mind you, still had their share of female fans) probably just make better reboot material.

I mean look at the newer things aimed specifically at girls of the current kid generation. How much of that would even make a good reboot in twenty years. Any? I have my doubts.

Did not most in high school or later go through that nostalgic phase with peers, talking about the shows and whatnot everyone used to watch, etc? I remember those discussions being pretty gender equal actually. Years later though when people are older... I dunno. I think maybe it's just more socially acceptable for guys to remain kids at heart and be excited for things like that while women are encouraged to grow up and focus on things we're told are more important for adults to pay attention to, else we're not adult enough. Girls/women have always been somewhat discouraged from fun stuff in some ways (not that we listen though!), too often fun and having it appears to be seen as belonging to the guys; games for example.

Not sure I'd buy that guys are "more" (do guys always have to be "more" about things...?), but much of the material aimed at them was better, worth better reboots, and naturally are the ones such reboots will be aimed at most.

There's certainly things I'm nostalgic about, and not limited to just shows and movies.

Come on... Labyrinth, Neverending Story, Fraggle Rock, Dark Crystal, Gummi Bears, Teddy Ruxbin, Pound Puppies, Popples, Glow Worm and all the toys that were common (Sit 'N Spin how I miss you, only a Tilt-a-Whirl comes close), Hungry Hungry Hippos (we eventually played it to death lol), anyone else ever remember the Shirt Tails cartoon? Pinwheel, Romper Room, the early days of Nick... You Can't Do That on Television (WE - well those old enough - remember where the Nick slime started!), Out of Control, Are You Afraid of the Dark, SNICK, and everything else possible. We had the good stuff.

Can't stick TMNT in there really, because thankfully they're still thriving. But there is nostalgia for watching them (first series) every day after school. I wouldn't mind seeing a reboot of that schedule however.

Personal non media/toy things... my grandparents home, the smell of the basement playroom on rainy days, my fascination with credit (and other) cards and the mystery why adults had all those cards in their wallets... I loved those fakes ones that would come with credit card junk mail. Making fake birds nests with my sister. Wearing racoon tails on a shoe string around our waists, tangling over our rears, and climbing the only climbable tree in the front yard...

Yup, not nostalgic at all.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Meh, if we're only talking entertainment media, look at the material. Things aimed at the boys (but, mind you, still had their share of female fans) probably just make better reboot material.

I mean look at the newer things aimed specifically at girls of the current kid generation. How much of that would even make a good reboot in twenty years. Any? I have my doubts.

Did not most in high school or later go through that nostalgic phase with peers, talking about the shows and whatnot everyone used to watch, etc? I remember those discussions being pretty gender equal actually. Years later though when people are older... I dunno. I think maybe it's just more socially acceptable for guys to remain kids at heart and be excited for things like that while women are encouraged to grow up and focus on things we're told are more important for adults to pay attention to, else we're not adult enough. Girls/women have always been somewhat discouraged from fun stuff in some ways (not that we listen though!), too often fun and having it appears to be seen as belonging to the guys; games for example.

There's certainly things I'm nostalgic about, and not limited to just shows and movies.

Come on... Labyrinth, Neverending Story, Fraggle Rock, Dark Crystal, Gummi Bears, Teddy Ruxbin, Pound Puppies, Popples, Glow Worm and all the toys that were common (Sit 'N Spin how I miss you, only a Tilt-a-Whirl comes close), Hungry Hungry Hippos (we eventually played it to death lol), anyone else ever remember the Shirt Tails cartoon? Pinwheel, Romper Room, the early days of Nick... You Can't Do That on Television (WE - well those old enough - remember where the Nick slime started!), Out of Control, Are You Afraid of the Dark, SNICK, and everything else possible. We had the good stuff.

Can't stick TMNT in there really, because thankfully they're still thriving. But there is nostalgia for watching them (first series) every day after school. I wouldn't mind seeing a reboot of that schedule however.

Personal non media/toy things... my grandparents home, the smell of the basement playroom on rainy days, my fascination with credit (and other) cards and the mystery why adults had all those cards in their wallets... I loved those fakes ones that would come with credit card junk mail. Making fake birds nests with my sister. Wearing racoon tails on a shoe string around our waists, tangling over our rears, and climbing the only climbable tree in the front yard...

Yup, not nostalgic at all.

What's funny is my little boy and my little girl actually love all things Disney Jr. but Jake and the Neverland Pirates are probably their favorite. I often wonder if someday when my son is in his 30s if he will still wanna try and get an adult Jake shirt or try and recover the Jake toys he opened by collecting them MIB or will that show and others like it just not have the "staying power" or whatever. Some people tell me that if I had known how much my He-Man toys would be worth now I could have kept them in the box but I always say that they were meant to be played with then and are meant to be collected now and I wouldn't trade my memories of playing with them for anything. It is the fact that I played with them that makes me want to collect them in the first place. So I never buy my kids toys with the feeling that maybe someday they will be "worth something" and then buy one just to keep in the box. If they want to go back and find them when they become vintage I will not take that experience away from them because I know how much I enjoy it ya know? Also I loved most of the toys you mentioned and still have an original Teddy that can still talk!

[Leo656]

I won't even attempt to speak for individuals, I've just been predominantly surrounded by women over men my entire life. I just call it how I observe it. In general, if I'm talking to a guy, I could bring up some obscure 80s cartoon and we could have a ten-minute conversation out of it, but with girls, most of the time there's little to discuss after "Oh, yeah, I remember that!" It just seems that in the broader sense, women don't spend as much time reflecting backwards.

And this forum probably isn't a good barometer since this is where all the Cool People hang out. Of course the data is going to be skewed.

[plastroncafe]

1) Female is an adjective, not a noun. Knock that obnoxious sh!t off.

2) You're saying that men and boys are more nostalgic for things that were made specifically with them in mind, than women and girls are because they were purposely left out of the equation.

And even when we did show an interest, we were shamed for it. We're still shamed for it now!

It's like saying well we made this great toy for dogs, but for some reason cats don't like it. Cats must not like toys!

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

1) Female is an adjective, not a noun. Knock that obnoxious sh!t off.

"This is where the females play huh? Look at the noun, "female" We ain't no female"

(Leo will get this)

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

And even when we did show an interest, we were shamed for it. We're still shamed for it now!

It's like saying well we made this great toy for dogs, but for some reason cats don't like it. Cats must not like toys!

Along those lines, the other day I bought myself TMNT pajama pants I'd been eyeing at Walmart for a bit (and hoping they'd have a sale... nope - figured either by them now or never since the stock will prob soon change seasons), was wearing them the next night and my mother asks where I'd gotten them.

Thought they were cute and thankfully she's fine with my being a fan again - unlike the opinion she held twenty years ago and I still have a fear that attitude will return - but her immediate thought was they'd probably come from the boys section. She was surprised (seemed pleasantly surprised actually) to hear that no, they're from the women's/juniors pajamas section, they really are ladies pants. Not that there is anything wrong with buying something from any section you want, including kids, including boys, if it fits you... but I wish it wasn't a surprising thing that something of TMNT was actually made for women, nor automatically assumed what I own was not intended for women/girls.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Along those lines, the other day I bought myself TMNT pajama pants I'd been eyeing at Walmart for a bit (and hoping they'd have a sale... nope - figured either by them now or never since the stock will prob soon change seasons), was wearing them the next night and my mother asks where I'd gotten them.

Thought they were cute and thankfully she's fine with my being a fan again - unlike the opinion she held twenty years ago and I still have a fear that attitude will return - but her immediate thought was they'd probably come from the boys section. She was surprised (seemed pleasantly surprised actually) to hear that no, they're from the women's/juniors pajamas section, they really are ladies pants. Not that there is anything wrong with buying something from any section you want, including kids, including boys, if it fits you... but I wish it wasn't a surprising thing that something of TMNT was actually made for women, nor automatically assumed what I own was not intended for women/girls.

Yeah, and it's a shame that is so often the case. I usually buy most of my tee-shirts in the boys section, and not just because of size issues. I just like the designs better, generally. Rarely do I ever find a TMNT shirt or pajamas or whatever in the girls'/womens' sections. Although there was a cute set not long ago- but sadly, not in my size. I've noticed SOME nostalgic stuff aimed at girls, but it's generally in the vein of "Hey, you remember when this was big? So do we!" and usually plays on the property from a girl's angle of "I'm cute for liking this!" (See also: I only date ninjas, I *heart* TMNT, etc....) Everything else aimed at nostalgia for ladies is- Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Batgirl, and other things that MOST girls were never "into" in the first place! It's "fake" nostalgia just for the sake of "cool" factor. Because it makes you hip, chic, cute, or whatever. And it's silly, because they make it for girls to LOOK like they are included. Or for the select few who actually ARE into whatever property it was made for.


Edit- Also, female IS also a noun. As in: "the female of the species", "a male or female" "females congregating"..... English is a complex language, folks. Words DO have multiple uses!

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

The male audience of the new MLP are not watching it for the nostalgia factor.

Whenever a Pokemon remake comes out I see way more women screaming about nostalgia than men.

lmao @ bubbly thinking she speaks for all women, though.

I didn't say I speak for all women. I'm speaking as a woman who does get nostalgic and looks back at certain things to point out that it's not just guys who get nostalgic about things and I said that it depends on the person in general. Some people get nostalgic and some don't and that goes for both genders. Sorry you didn't understand that, but you seem to have a hard time grasping a lot of things.

And I saw a TMNT retro shirt in the women's pajama section the other day, so they are made for women. I do like the boys' section though and the shirts they offer, too.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Along those lines, the other day I bought myself TMNT pajama pants I'd been eyeing at Walmart for a bit (and hoping they'd have a sale... nope - figured either by them now or never since the stock will prob soon change seasons), was wearing them the next night and my mother asks where I'd gotten them.

Thought they were cute and thankfully she's fine with my being a fan again - unlike the opinion she held twenty years ago and I still have a fear that attitude will return - but her immediate thought was they'd probably come from the boys section. She was surprised (seemed pleasantly surprised actually) to hear that no, they're from the women's/juniors pajamas section, they really are ladies pants. Not that there is anything wrong with buying something from any section you want, including kids, including boys, if it fits you... but I wish it wasn't a surprising thing that something of TMNT was actually made for women, nor automatically assumed what I own was not intended for women/girls.

I've seen some really cool TMNT stuff for women at Wal Mart. Also at Target. They have a TMNT bra even. At Wal Mart I've seen a cool nightgown and some cool pajamas too.

[Leo656]

I was at Wal-Mart the other day, they actually have more TMNT shirts in the girls than guys section. I didn't get a good look at which had better designs, I just noticed there was a wider selection in the girls' section. NJ's weird though, I'unno. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

"This is where the females play huh? Look at the noun, "female" We ain't no female"

(Leo will get this)

"Big Sexy enjoyed your obscure inside reference. Move ahead four spaces."

[Cryomancer]

There is some film theory thing for ages ago from like Arkoff or somebody that basically goes something like "a woman will usually go to a movie made for a man but not so much vice versa, and a kid will watch a movie made for young adults but not so much vice versa, so just make movies for young men and everyone will watch it". I think a lot of pop culture operates off of that, and this might just be a side effect of that sort of thinking.

[Storm Eagle]

Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

I think a lot of the "frowning upon" stuff is more just about being macho and all that. I don't really have anything to prove. I'm married. I have kids. It's not like I need to impress people. Someone once tried to give me some jazz about a TMNT shirt and how it was a shirt for "little kids" and I said "Obviously, since they make it in adult sizes." LOL. I've also found it to be a sort of "pack mentality" with dogging on nostalgic fandom. GROUPS of guys are more likely to pick on something like that but when it's just YOU and THEM they sorta tend to talk about how they always loved TMNT back in the day and then share their memories of how cool they thought it was. I've had that happen before. Have you experienced that as well?

Somehow, I'm seeing this discussion as another one of those "stupid things guys do" discussions.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I was at Wal-Mart the other day, they actually have more TMNT shirts in the girls than guys section. I didn't get a good look at which had better designs, I just noticed there was a wider selection in the girls' section. NJ's weird though, I'unno. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!

At Wal Mart I've seen a cool nightgown and some cool pajamas too.

Like these? The ones I just got.

Spoiler:

Now what I'm annoyed at, is Walmart has a whole bunch of cute athletic/jersey type shirts with the stripes across the sleeves for different superheros and a few other topics. A couple even have like "Batman" or "Superman" across the upper back. Do they have one for the Turtles?? No. Want.

And yes, Jersey is weird, been like my weird neighbor forever, prob why so many who live there seem to hang out over here to get away for a few. lol

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Like these? The ones I just got.

Spoiler:

http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce0...ffb67de.v3.jpg

Now what I'm annoyed at, is Walmart has a whole bunch of cute athletic/jersey type shirts with the stripes across the sleeves for different superheros and a few other topics. A couple even have like "Batman" or "Superman" across the upper back. Do they have one for the Turtles?? No. Want.

And yes, Jersey is weird, been like my weird neighbor forever, prob why so many who live there seem to hang out over here to get away for a few. lol

No I hadn't seen those but they are really cool. The ones I seen were like a set with matching tops and bottoms. The nightgowns were like just an extended shirt that was sorta purple and green. The bra I seen was at Target and had Donnie's head all over it. I've also seen TMNT panties as well.