fox's fantastic four reboot

[TurtleTitan97]

So Trank is already starting to make excuses. From Twitter:

A year ago I had a fantastic version of this. And it would've recieved great reviews. You’ll probably never see it. That’s reality though.

Come on, man. At least admit that you made some mistakes when it came to this film instead of just blaming the studio.

EDIT. Aaaaaand he has already deleted his comment. Not surprised.

[NinjaPug]

Not saying Trank's film would've been good but Fox changed a bunch, specifically the 3rd act, through reshoots.

[CyberCubed]

I can see Fox selling the rights to Marvel now. After this movie bombed they're not going to bother with another one.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm pretty sure the Corman one is a lot better than the new one.

It might be the best one so far, actually. Who'da ever thought THAT, huh?!

That says a lot, when the movie the studio only made to keep the IP and never release it is the best FF movie off the four movies we've gotten so far.

Although, Pixar's Incredibles is a better Fantastic 4 movie then the actual movies...

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm pretty sure the Corman one is a lot better than the new one.

It might be the best one so far, actually. Who'da ever thought THAT, huh?!

I'll always love that line from The Jeweler though, "We are such things as dreams are made of"

[ProactiveMan]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm pretty sure the Corman one is a lot better than the new one.

It might be the best one so far, actually. Who'da ever thought THAT, huh?!

Yeah, the Human Torch was Bug from Uncle Buck.

[ObiWanFan4life]

*sighs*, I wanted this movie to be an underdog story, I wanted it to be ag least passable. Ironically, this makes for four subpar movies about the Fantastic Four.

[Vicky82]

I'm actually in my seat about to watch this movie, good thing I didn't pay for this movie (thank god for my unlimited card).

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I'm actually in my seat about to watch this movie, good thing I didn't pay for this movie (thank god for my unlimited card).

People could argue that you technically did pay, because you have an Unlimited card.

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

You ever get slapped in the face for being that guy?

No. Do you?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

*sighs*, I wanted this movie to be an underdog story, I wanted it to be ag least passable. Ironically, this makes for four subpar movies about the Fantastic Four.

To be fair to Hollywood, I'm not convinced you can pull off Fantastic 4. I'm really not. It's inherently too cheesy and cornball to work as anything but a kids' movie (see all the comments about "The Incredibles"). The last two movies embraced all the corniness, and were in turn rejected by general audiences, who want their super-hero films to have more weight. This one tries to make it all "dark and serious", and in turn is rejected by everyone. It's like, how do you make this property work as a film?

I'unno if it's even worth trying. There's little, if anything, about the F4 that appeals to the general super-hero movie audience. Anything you can do in an F4 movie, can be and has been done better in other super-hero films. And the heart of F4, the "family" angle, is too saccharine for most of the general super-hero movie audience to get behind (I mean let's be real, males in their teens/20s are the main audience and they hate that kind of thing). Without that, you just have a handful of people with really, really awful and borderline-useless "super powers" trying to function without looking like complete idiots. It just doesn't work.

Everything from the top down about F4 as a concept screams as to being of a different time and place. It's so much a product of its time that I'm not even sure you CAN update it and make it "cool" or "relevant" without breaking it completely. I'unno if it's worth it to keep making movies about 'em. Make a cartoon show and aim it at the younger set, would be my approach. Other than "Everyone Gets A Movie Now", there's really no point in a live-action F4. I mean, how many times do you try something before you just admit it isn't working? It's clear that even if you could do it, Hollywood doesn't really know How to do it with these characters.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

That says a lot, when the movie the studio only made to keep the IP and never release it is the best FF movie off the four movies we've gotten so far.

And even then, at least Constantin Film Produktion and New Horizons had the decency to never release their terrible Fantastic Four movie. What are your three excuses, Fox?

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

"Personal reasons."
Yeah, he left because of the studio's personal problems with him.

I haven't seen Chronicle, but everything I've heard about Trank suggests he's a guy who made one pretty-good movie and then bought his own hype hard. He doesn't have the experience or cache to act like he's acting, and if he's managed to burn his bridges with two of the biggest studios around after being handed dream projects like freakin' birthday gifts, then his career's probably done for.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by Bry

And even then, at least Constantin Film Produktion and New Horizons had the decency to never release their terrible Fantastic Four movie. What are your three excuses, Fox?



I haven't seen Chronicle, but everything I've heard about Trank suggests he's a guy who made one pretty-good movie and then bought his own hype hard. He doesn't have the experience or cache to act like he's acting, and if he's managed to burn his bridges with two of the biggest studios around after being handed dream projects like freakin' birthday gifts, then his career's probably done for.

Sounds familiar. *coughs* M. Night Shyamalan *coughs*

[Vicky82]

Originally Posted by THGhost

People could argue that you technically did pay, because you have an Unlimited card.

Well yeah I pay £16 a month, a normal price ticket is £10 so I need to watch a least 3+ movies a month so I don't lose money.

Anyway yes it was a terrible movie, worst Mavel movie so far. The 2005 and 2007 Fantastic 4 movies are way better.

The things I hated.

The runtime was too short
Not enough action so the final fight scene lasted like 5 minutes
The lack of use of there powers.

Spoiler:

I hated that they were used as test subjects and used The Thing as a weapon to smash things up.
Sue didn't go with them to the other dimension, she got her powers when they returned.
Reed Richards being a pussy and ran off and went into hiding for a year.
I thought The actor who played Johnny Storm was crap he wasn't cracking jokes, he seemed too serious.
Didn't feel there was enough emotion.

The things I liked

It was Dark and Gritty.
The special effects were good but not spectacular.

Erm I think that's it.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

Sounds familiar. *coughs* M. Night Shyamalan *coughs*

Hey, it's not far off. Though at least Shyamalan made two good movies before he went completely off the deep end.

This is the result of years and years of celebrating and revering the idea of an auteur - the one person with singular vision and immense talent who can be as arrogant and difficult as they want to because they're just that good. And now every young filmmaker with one hit to their name and enough hype online is ready to believe they're the next Hitchcock, Kubrick, or Tarantino, and they start acting like it even though they haven't remotely earned it. But the reality is, filmmaking is a naturally collaborative process and those true auteurs are very few and far between. I'd even say most good or great movies have involved a lot of give-and-take behind the scenes.

[TLP]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Spoiler:

Reed Richards being a pussy and ran off and went into hiding for a year.

Oh man. Considering the story and tone, that's bleak as s***.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Make a cartoon show and aim it at the younger set, would be my approach

The FF cartoons have been hit-and-miss in the past. The first one is the best but they stuck very close to the comic at the time, the 70s had Herbie The Robot and that hysterical Magneto episode ("A Wooden Gun!"). The 90s series had an awful first season (though had an awesome theme song) and an impressive second season where they...ta da, adhered to the traditional comic book stories (and tossing in Ghost Rider kicking Galactus ass did'nt hurt), then there was the 2006 FF cartoon (from the same studio that made Code: Lyoko), which was somewhat passable (I'd easily choose it over the current crop of cartoons Marvel put out), but it did'nt quite catch on and never got a follow-up season

If Marvel gets their mits back on the movies, I sincerely hope they actually go full on with the family dynamic and toss in Franklyn and Valeria, and adapt the inaugural FF/Inhuman storyline as the first flick, avoid using Doom for a while.

[Memphis]

Originally Posted by ProactiveMan

Yeah, the Human Torch was Bug from Uncle Buck.

Seriously? I didn't know that. lmao "Is his last name Spray?" XD

I'm pretty glad the movie bombed. I hated that they turned the group into the Scooby-Doo gang. I also hate that Johnny and Sue aren't related now because Johnny is black. I swear they did it hoping to get some controversy and attention for the change. Which they did, back when they announced it.

Like it was said before, I just cannot see Teller as a hero. The last thing I saw with him was that Effron movie last year. He's best suited as comic relief.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Holy sh*t that "Doom" is all kinds of f*cktarded. This is exactly one of those "Let's do every single thing wrong on purpose" kinda movies. No WAY.

I'unno if I ever mentioned it, but as far as the older F4 movies go, I actually hated the first one and thought the second one was kind of okay, other than whatever the f*ck Galactus was supposed to be. I dug Surfer though, was kind of looking forward to his spin-off after they made such a big deal about it. The first F4 I just plain didn't like. You could tell that the movie itself was highly impressed with how clever and funny it was, but in reality it was neither of those things. I liked that the second one tried to take itself a little more seriously.

Word of mouth on this one's horrible; gotta wonder what's next.

Here's word from the horse's mouth- DON'T SEE IT. Gods it was BORING!! Seriously, it's the FIRST Marvel film that has had me bored almost to tears. It was slow, dull, and just- UGH. WTF did I just watch??!! Cause it sure as heck wasn't an FF movie. Nothing remotely interesting or fun there, and doom was just a pissy little boy who decided that he was going to go build his own sandbox by destroying everyone else's. Yeah, um.... Okay? No, on second thought, NOT okay!!!

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

hmm...I wanted to watch it...think I'll just go see Ant-man instead XD

Yes, please do. You'd have more fun. TRUST ME.

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

This movie has a freaking 7% on Rotten Tomatoes. Congratulations 2004 Catwoman, you are no longer the lowest rated Superhero movie out there.

We are quickly entering the Paul Blart danger zone, everyone.

That would be the wise thing to do.

7%? Dear gawds, I can see why. This is now the WORST FF movie to date. Really.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

At this point, stabbing yourself in the eye with a plastic spoon is arguably a wiser thing to do.

Yes, yes it would.... Wish I could, now. That's two hours I'll never get back. And I was ten minutes late getting in. guess I didn't miss anything.

Originally Posted by THGhost

Clawed it's way up to 10% now. I was expecting it to be bad, but not this bad. Guess I'll be downloading it within a few months instead of paying money to go see it, same with Pixels.

Don't even bother. You'll be better off.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I can see Fox selling the rights to Marvel now. After this movie bombed they're not going to bother with another one.

One can only HOPE.....

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I'm actually in my seat about to watch this movie, good thing I didn't pay for this movie (thank god for my unlimited card).

You too, huh? Yeah, I just got out of it myself, and, blech. Were you bored the whole time, too?

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Well yeah I pay £16 a month, a normal price ticket is £10 so I need to watch a least 3+ movies a month so I don't lose money.

Anyway yes it was a terrible movie, worst Mavel movie so far. The 2005 and 2007 Fantastic 4 movies are way better.

The things I hated.

The runtime was too short
Not enough action so the final fight scene lasted like 5 minutes
The lack of use of there powers.

Spoiler:

I hated that they were used as test subjects and used The Thing as a weapon to smash things up.
Sue didn't go with them to the other dimension, she got her powers when they returned.
Reed Richards being a pussy and ran off and went into hiding for a year.
I thought The actor who played Johnny Storm was crap he wasn't cracking jokes, he seemed too serious.
Didn't feel there was enough emotion.

The things I liked

It was Dark and Gritty.
The special effects were good but not spectacular.

Erm I think that's it.

All of this, except- run time too short? My gods, I just wanted the darn thing to END!!! It felt like it was dragging, even in the "action" parts- which were too few, too short, and just plain dull, anyway.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yes, yes it would.... Wish I could, now. That's two hours I'll never get back. And I was ten minutes late getting in. guess I didn't miss anything.

Poor life choice on your part. If you had stabbed yourself in the eye with a plastic spoon, you'd be wearing a totally bitchin' eyepatch right now! Like a pirate! Argh!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

No thanks. My eyes are bad enough already. Legally blind without my glasses, man. Don't need to add to it.