fox's fantastic four reboot - Page 16

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-12-2015, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Ya got THAT right. It's because we can both imagine things most people would never dream of. The difference is that writers only do it on paper- sociopaths do it for real.

Exactly. Plus, writers are paid for it; sociopaths pay for it.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 08-13-2015, 09:15 AM

I just watched the movie last night. It started off okay-ish but as it went on, it became less and less enjoyable.

I liked the beginning of the movie where they show how close Reed and Ben are. Ben believes in Reed's strive to work on a teleporter and Reed wants Ben to be there since they grew up working on it together. I like that dynamic. The problem is that there's not too much character development as there is character interactions (which is also scarce including the relationship between Reed and Sue). I also feel that the movie shifts tones where it starts of light, then moves to being serious, and at the climax, super silly like it felt like it was trying to recapture the tone of the first two films but done in a bland and lifeless fashion as if the actors were getting tired of doing this movie. This may show where the reshoots are done.

*Spoiler* if you guys plan on watching the movie for action, you're not going to get a lot of it. There's only two scenes of it and the first one is merely just tests to see how well they can handle there new powers.

And finallly Dr. Doom.............yeah.

Overall, the movie is no where near as bad as critics are saying it is (not Batman & Robin bad, at least), it's just an uninteresting flick. The characters don't show a lot of emotion and you can get a feel that the actors just got tired of doing this film. It seems as though this film losses it's appeal half-way through the movie. It's hard to say what type of direction Josh Trank was going for. I know he wanted it to be a more grounded take but the ideas he had for this film may have been better off on paper.

It just sort of exists. Not terrible, not interesting.

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-13-2015, 11:50 AM

For those who did not like the film and actually think a petition can do something here is a petition gping around the internet.

https://www.change.org/p/everybody-g...marvel-studios

*chrisdude* · 08-13-2015, 09:11 PM

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You can't make people sell the things they own. Fox got those film rights fair and square, and they're free to keep using them according to the agreement Marvel and Fox made. If people don't like it, there are plenty of other movies to watch.

*The Stryker* · 08-13-2015, 09:19 PM

Not a good sign when the second word in the petition proposal is spelled wrong.

Also, yeah what chrisdude said. Fox owns the rights and they can do whatever they want with them. It's not being petty or spiteful, Greedy maybe? But they're a movie studio so it's kinda what they do. They own the rights! It's not like they canceled FF comics or denied toy rights to the franchise or something. Who would do that?

*NinjaPug* · 08-13-2015, 09:25 PM

Those petitions are such a waste of time. Are people really dumb enough to think that would accomplish anything?

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-13-2015, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Those petitions are such a waste of time. Are people really dumb enough to think that would accomplish anything?

Unfortunately, yes.

*JTH* · 08-14-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Overall, the movie is no where near as bad as critics are saying it is (not Batman & Robin bad, at least), it's just an uninteresting flick. The characters don't show a lot of emotion and you can get a feel that the actors just got tired of doing this film. It seems as though this film losses it's appeal half-way through the movie. It's hard to say what type of direction Josh Trank was going for. I know he wanted it to be a more grounded take but the ideas he had for this film may have been better off on paper.

It just sort of exists. Not terrible, not interesting.

Yes, it is as bad as critics are saying. Comparing this movie to Batman & Robin in any way is like comparing an apple to a brick. Not relatable at all.

Batman & Robin is campy, goofy, cheesy, not taking itself seriously, and clearly letting you know it's not taking itself seriously.

This thing is trying to be The Dark Knight, The Avengers, Man of Steel levels of seriousness, and it fails in all parts.

And worse of all, this movie was done basically to just make a movie and set up another movie. But they forgot the important part of that idea, in that the movie still has to be...good.

DarkLightDragon · 08-15-2015, 06:27 AM

More news about the drama during development:

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/fantast...670602777.html

It's the gift that keeps on giving, amirite?

EDIT: Had some trouble getting the link working. Should be fine now.

*NinjaPug* · 08-15-2015, 10:26 AM

F4 breaking records:

“@ScottMendelson: #BoxOffice: #FantasticFour Plunges Record 78.7% For $2.4M Friday http://onforb.es/1hEwQDO

*ToTheNines* · 08-15-2015, 11:47 AM

Damn. Now I wanna see it because I genuinely feel bad.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 08-15-2015, 12:49 PM

All the juicy gossip and drama this movie has created almost makes me glad it was made. Almost.

*chrisdude* · 08-15-2015, 05:39 PM

I want a documentary. That's what I want.

*CyberCubed* · 08-15-2015, 05:49 PM

Why is this such a big deal? I don't even remember the Green Lantern movie getting this much bile and hate unless I'm remembering wrong.

I guess people have forgotten over the years that there used to be countless "terrible" superhero movies. Its only since the current fad of superhero films people seem to have forgotten this.

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-15-2015, 06:02 PM

Green Lantern is a character that has a convulted origin. Its hard to translate it to a general audience especially throwing in Parallax. I thought getting past the origin would help. Setting Sinestro up looked to have potential. According to BOM Green Lantern made 222 million. It had t wrkte off its promotional cost. Hopefully time will be kind to it. As for FF's reboot it was so much change to the origin it hurt it. It seemed like a run of the mill sci-fi movie which the people involved were clearly not invested in.

*JTH* · 08-15-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Why is this such a big deal? I don't even remember the Green Lantern movie getting this much bile and hate unless I'm remembering wrong.

Yes, you're remembering wrong. VERY Wrong!

*NinjaPug* · 08-15-2015, 08:05 PM

Green Lantern didn't have the behind the scenes drama that F4 did. That seems to be what people are focusing on now.

*CyberCubed* · 08-15-2015, 08:09 PM

Did people expect this movie to be really good? As as they cast a black actor as the human torch that should have been a red flag. Changing long established characters nationalities is a publicity stunt.

DarkLightDragon · 08-15-2015, 08:15 PM

Nobody was hoping it would've been good.

None of us just really imagined it turned out this bad before and after the film was released.

*ToTheNines* · 08-15-2015, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Did people expect this movie to be really good? As as they cast a black actor as the human torch that should have been a red flag. Changing long established characters nationalities is a publicity stunt.

They didn't. He's still American.

08-13-2015, 11:50 AM	#303
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	For those who did not like the film and actually think a petition can do something here is a petition gping around the internet. https://www.change.org/p/everybody-g...marvel-studios __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

08-13-2015, 09:19 PM	#305
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Not a good sign when the second word in the petition proposal is spelled wrong. Also, yeah what chrisdude said. Fox owns the rights and they can do whatever they want with them. It's not being petty or spiteful, Greedy maybe? But they're a movie studio so it's kinda what they do. They own the rights! It's not like they canceled FF comics or denied toy rights to the franchise or something. Who would do that? __________________ @~<3 Mom~@ Last edited by The Stryker; 08-13-2015 at 09:25 PM.

08-15-2015, 06:02 PM	#315
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Green Lantern is a character that has a convulted origin. Its hard to translate it to a general audience especially throwing in Parallax. I thought getting past the origin would help. Setting Sinestro up looked to have potential. According to BOM Green Lantern made 222 million. It had t wrkte off its promotional cost. Hopefully time will be kind to it. As for FF's reboot it was so much change to the origin it hurt it. It seemed like a run of the mill sci-fi movie which the people involved were clearly not invested in. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

08-13-2015, 09:15 AM	#302
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	I just watched the movie last night. It started off okay-ish but as it went on, it became less and less enjoyable. I liked the beginning of the movie where they show how close Reed and Ben are. Ben believes in Reed's strive to work on a teleporter and Reed wants Ben to be there since they grew up working on it together. I like that dynamic. The problem is that there's not too much character development as there is character interactions (which is also scarce including the relationship between Reed and Sue). I also feel that the movie shifts tones where it starts of light, then moves to being serious, and at the climax, super silly like it felt like it was trying to recapture the tone of the first two films but done in a bland and lifeless fashion as if the actors were getting tired of doing this movie. This may show where the reshoots are done. Spoiler if you guys plan on watching the movie for action, you're not going to get a lot of it. There's only two scenes of it and the first one is merely just tests to see how well they can handle there new powers. And finallly Dr. Doom.............yeah. Overall, the movie is no where near as bad as critics are saying it is (not Batman & Robin bad, at least), it's just an uninteresting flick. The characters don't show a lot of emotion and you can get a feel that the actors just got tired of doing this film. It seems as though this film losses it's appeal half-way through the movie. It's hard to say what type of direction Josh Trank was going for. I know he wanted it to be a more grounded take but the ideas he had for this film may have been better off on paper. It just sort of exists. Not terrible, not interesting.

08-13-2015, 09:11 PM	#304
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You can't make people sell the things they own. Fox got those film rights fair and square, and they're free to keep using them according to the agreement Marvel and Fox made. If people don't like it, there are plenty of other movies to watch.

08-13-2015, 09:25 PM	#306
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Those petitions are such a waste of time. Are people really dumb enough to think that would accomplish anything?

08-15-2015, 06:27 AM	#309
DarkLightDragon Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,026	More news about the drama during development: https://www.yahoo.com/movies/fantast...670602777.html It's the gift that keeps on giving, amirite? EDIT: Had some trouble getting the link working. Should be fine now.

08-15-2015, 10:26 AM	#310
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	F4 breaking records: “@ScottMendelson: #BoxOffice: #FantasticFour Plunges Record 78.7% For $2.4M Friday http://onforb.es/1hEwQDO

08-15-2015, 11:47 AM	#311
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,370	Damn. Now I wanna see it because I genuinely feel bad.

08-15-2015, 05:39 PM	#313
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	I want a documentary. That's what I want.

08-15-2015, 05:49 PM	#314
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	Why is this such a big deal? I don't even remember the Green Lantern movie getting this much bile and hate unless I'm remembering wrong. I guess people have forgotten over the years that there used to be countless "terrible" superhero movies. Its only since the current fad of superhero films people seem to have forgotten this.

08-15-2015, 08:05 PM	#317
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Green Lantern didn't have the behind the scenes drama that F4 did. That seems to be what people are focusing on now.

08-15-2015, 08:09 PM	#318
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,883	Did people expect this movie to be really good? As as they cast a black actor as the human torch that should have been a red flag. Changing long established characters nationalities is a publicity stunt.

08-15-2015, 08:15 PM	#319
DarkLightDragon Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,026	Nobody was hoping it would've been good. None of us just really imagined it turned out this bad before and after the film was released.