1987 cartoon movie?

Yabuturtle · 08-19-2015, 10:49 AM

I always thought that a 1987 cartoon movie should have been made if not in theaters than at least on video. Yes they were in Turtles Forever, but really it was a TMNT 2003 movie and guest starred the 1987 characters, as 03 Shredder was still the main villain and it mostly involved the 03 Turtles.

But if there was strictly a 1987 cartoon movie, I think it'd go well. But I would change a few things. I'd make it more serious like the Red Sky season but still keep a little comedy and goofy stuff here and there. I would however make Shredder and Krang much more dangerous and competent. Especially Krang as I would make him a real threat.. Like a serious threat, where he'd be world's above his other cartoon counterpart in terms of physical power and competence. As much as I like Shreddder and Krang being great allies I figure it makes more sense for Krang to be the main villain. His army is superior, He has conquered entire dimensions, in addition to his own, he owns the Technodrome, he's more powerful than Shredder in terms of strength as well as having more gizmos and he's more intelligent than Shredder. So it's understandable that Shredder would take orders from him.

I'd still keep Bebop and Rocksteady and make them similar to their IDW counterpart and throw in some silly goofy moments from the 1987 cartoon. Overall it'd be serious but it wouldn't be completly devoid of humor and over the top moments.

I would show April but in her Red Sky outfit and Irma as well as Vernon and Burne. Other characters like Mondo Gecko could show up. I would also show Casey and perhaps Usagi in the movie. Also General Tragg and the Rock Soldiers. I found it disappointing that General Tragg and the Rocksoldiers didn't show up in Turtles Forever. At least the robotic foot soldiers did but I wished the Rock Soldiers showed up.

I would have them faceing the Technodrome and this time the Technodrome would do serious damage to the city and be a real threat and they'd take down legions of Foot Soldiers and Rock Soldiers They defeat Shredder, than fight Krang and after they manage to destroy the Technodrome, they fight Krang again, but this time he turns into a giant like he did in the cartoon and is finally defeated by the Turtles. I'd probably want the animation to be on par with Turtles Forever or maybe one of the DC animated movies. Or even Disney/Don Bluth style.

What do you think?

*neatoman* · 08-19-2015, 11:17 AM

If it was during the time the show was on the air or at least shortly after, then sure that could have worked.

But it ended twenty years ago and a lot has changed since then, it's hard to imagine a movie being that similar to the Fred Wolf cartoon. Even if a lot of the Viacom era material has brought back a bunch of things found in the Fred Wolf cartoon, nobody can deny the obvious alterations or even that Mirage/4Kids ideas always creep in no matter how much they pull from the Fred Wolf cartoon.

Even if I wanted a movie that completely emulated the Fred Wolf cartoon, the closest I can Imagine being made in this day and age would still probably have a different tone, reimagined characters and Mirage/4Kids characters like Karai and Hun running around.

~~ABrown~~ · 08-19-2015, 11:19 AM

A friend of mine has insisted ever since we were in high school back in the later 90's that the original TMNT cartoon had a movie. I have no idea what he's thinking was the movie. The only thing that I can think of is that "Planet of The Turtleoids" I guess aired at some point in prime time.

Yabuturtle · 08-19-2015, 11:23 AM

I'm not sure why because it was a two partner and not an actual movie. I just find it odd they didn't make a movie on the 1987 version which was the biggest cash cow at the time. Even Ducktales had a movie and they didn't last nearly as long.

*Wesley* · 08-19-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Yabuturtle

I'm not sure why because it was a two partner and not an actual movie. I just find it odd they didn't make a movie on the 1987 version which was the biggest cash cow at the time. Even Ducktales had a movie and they didn't last nearly as long.

The second tmnt film, Secret of the Ooze, was a bit like the 1987 cartoon, except that it was live action.

*Powder* · 08-19-2015, 12:07 PM

Yeah, I've always said SOTO is pretty much the OT in live action form, but with T&R in place of B&R (at E&L's behest). There's no Krang/Technodrome, but it's close enough.

~~1987~~ · 08-19-2015, 12:09 PM

hmm, somehow i never thought of this. i would have enjoyed seeing a 1987 ot movie, and like you said, with a darker tone than the majority of the series had. i think the tone of the first season 5-episode pilots would be ideal. they could make a whole movie out of either of the 2 arcade games. either the traditional fighting through the technodrome to save splinter&april, like the first season and first arcade game, or traveling through time to save the statue of liberty, would be awesome concepts for a 1987 ot movie.

*neatoman* · 08-19-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

A friend of mine has insisted ever since we were in high school back in the later 90's that the original TMNT cartoon had a movie. I have no idea what he's thinking was the movie. The only thing that I can think of is that "Planet of The Turtleoids" I guess aired at some point in prime time.

If I have to guess, I suppose he watched some VHS that edited some episodes together to make it seem like a movie, probably season 1 in that case.
It's hardly farfetched, the type of compilation movies were common back then and still pop up from time to time.

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~~ABrown~~ · 08-19-2015, 12:51 PM

The one that I used to ask him years ago was "The Epic Begins". But he says no, it wasn't that.

*Powder* · 08-19-2015, 02:29 PM

Well, your friend is a dummy.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-19-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown

A friend of mine has insisted ever since we were in high school back in the later 90's that the original TMNT cartoon had a movie. I have no idea what he's thinking was the movie. The only thing that I can think of is that "Planet of The Turtleoids" I guess aired at some point in prime time.

First season was compiled into a long "movie", maybe he vaguely remembered that?

Yabuturtle · 08-19-2015, 02:41 PM

It makes me wonder why the first season wasn't shot as a "movie" It makes sense because unlike other seasons, this one follows a chronological order meaning you have to see it from the beginning to understand what's going on. Not to mention the animation is much better than it is in the later seasons and movies almost always have better animation than shows.

*Powder* · 08-19-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

First season was compiled into a long "movie", maybe he vaguely remembered that?

Nope, he already mentioned it.

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Originally Posted by ABrown

The one that I used to ask him years ago was "The Epic Begins". But he says no, it wasn't that.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-19-2015, 02:49 PM

well, the season 1 movie sucks sweaty balls. Baxter is completely cut away, yet they still mention him as they take the Turtle Van to his lab

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Nope, he already mentioned it.

It had a different name over here.

*Powder* · 08-19-2015, 03:00 PM

If anything shoulda been cut it's those God-awful Neutrinos.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 08-19-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

If anything shoulda been cut it's those God-awful Neutrinos.

Not cool, Daddy-O!

*Prowler* · 08-19-2015, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

If anything shoulda been cut it's those God-awful Neutrinos.

Haha yeah

But tbh, I found the neutrinos more annoying in their other episodes. It was the voices, man. And I pretty much hated them as a kid.

It's funny how many of us seem to dislike Neutrinos and Zach, even though they were not villains and I assume they were made as character for kids to relate to.

Yabuturtle · 08-20-2015, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Haha yeah

But tbh, I found the neutrinos more annoying in their other episodes. It was the voices, man. And I pretty much hated them as a kid.

It's funny how many of us seem to dislike Neutrinos and Zach, even though they were not villains and I assume they were made as character for kids to relate to.

I don't really get the hate with the Neutrinos. I never found them really annoying or grating. Zach was far more annoying, constantly trying to get involved and usually messed things up and once in a blue moon was useful. Neutrinos were actually useful. They had more of a backstory and really it is kind of depressing. Being in a dimension of total war, trying not to get hunted down by war hungry Rock Soldiers when really they just wanted to have fun and these were teenagers. So it was kind of sad that fun loving people were in such a horrible dimension.

*Powder* · 08-20-2015, 08:53 AM

They're a waste of space in season 1, & entirely the product of a Fred Wolf board meeting or whatever. Those dorks are just misplaced culture mish-mashes that interrupt the flow of the story & make for a really goofy episode in the middle of a relatively serious arc. Krang is at least somewhat based on the Utroms, & Bebop/Rocksteady are grimey imposing monsters, so they're acceptable.

Yabuturtle · 08-20-2015, 08:59 AM

They aren't the worst characters out there and aren't nearly annoying as some others. As far as being a waste of space, I disagree. It gave us a little more of a closer look in Dimension X. There were a lot of bad people in Dimension X but there were quite a few good people and it showed that. It also gave us a little more of a perspective of Dimension X. We know it was a place of total war but seeing characters who are good and share their experience is interesting as it gives us a better understanding of how horrible of a place it is. Sure you can show Dimension X, but you really feel for the characters who are good and have to suffer such misfortune.

Plus it showed the Turtles getting along with some non humans. Neutrinos don't have the best reception in Dimension X due to their fun loving attitude and the Turtles don't have the best reception in the city either so it was interesting to see to non humans get along and somewhat relate to each other. I did wish it'd develop more as Mike was into Kala and I kind of wish they followed through with it. Otherwise the romance is kind of a tease. Really I don't have a problem with the Neutrinos.

08-19-2015, 10:49 AM	#1
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	1987 cartoon movie? I always thought that a 1987 cartoon movie should have been made if not in theaters than at least on video. Yes they were in Turtles Forever, but really it was a TMNT 2003 movie and guest starred the 1987 characters, as 03 Shredder was still the main villain and it mostly involved the 03 Turtles. But if there was strictly a 1987 cartoon movie, I think it'd go well. But I would change a few things. I'd make it more serious like the Red Sky season but still keep a little comedy and goofy stuff here and there. I would however make Shredder and Krang much more dangerous and competent. Especially Krang as I would make him a real threat.. Like a serious threat, where he'd be world's above his other cartoon counterpart in terms of physical power and competence. As much as I like Shreddder and Krang being great allies I figure it makes more sense for Krang to be the main villain. His army is superior, He has conquered entire dimensions, in addition to his own, he owns the Technodrome, he's more powerful than Shredder in terms of strength as well as having more gizmos and he's more intelligent than Shredder. So it's understandable that Shredder would take orders from him. I'd still keep Bebop and Rocksteady and make them similar to their IDW counterpart and throw in some silly goofy moments from the 1987 cartoon. Overall it'd be serious but it wouldn't be completly devoid of humor and over the top moments. I would show April but in her Red Sky outfit and Irma as well as Vernon and Burne. Other characters like Mondo Gecko could show up. I would also show Casey and perhaps Usagi in the movie. Also General Tragg and the Rock Soldiers. I found it disappointing that General Tragg and the Rocksoldiers didn't show up in Turtles Forever. At least the robotic foot soldiers did but I wished the Rock Soldiers showed up. I would have them faceing the Technodrome and this time the Technodrome would do serious damage to the city and be a real threat and they'd take down legions of Foot Soldiers and Rock Soldiers They defeat Shredder, than fight Krang and after they manage to destroy the Technodrome, they fight Krang again, but this time he turns into a giant like he did in the cartoon and is finally defeated by the Turtles. I'd probably want the animation to be on par with Turtles Forever or maybe one of the DC animated movies. Or even Disney/Don Bluth style. What do you think? Last edited by Yabuturtle; 08-19-2015 at 11:18 AM.

08-19-2015, 11:19 AM	#3
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	A friend of mine has insisted ever since we were in high school back in the later 90's that the original TMNT cartoon had a movie. I have no idea what he's thinking was the movie. The only thing that I can think of is that "Planet of The Turtleoids" I guess aired at some point in prime time.

08-19-2015, 11:23 AM	#4
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	I'm not sure why because it was a two partner and not an actual movie. I just find it odd they didn't make a movie on the 1987 version which was the biggest cash cow at the time. Even Ducktales had a movie and they didn't last nearly as long.

08-19-2015, 12:07 PM	#6
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Yeah, I've always said SOTO is pretty much the OT in live action form, but with T&R in place of B&R (at E&L's behest). There's no Krang/Technodrome, but it's close enough.

08-19-2015, 12:09 PM	#7
~~1987~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 640	hmm, somehow i never thought of this. i would have enjoyed seeing a 1987 ot movie, and like you said, with a darker tone than the majority of the series had. i think the tone of the first season 5-episode pilots would be ideal. they could make a whole movie out of either of the 2 arcade games. either the traditional fighting through the technodrome to save splinter&april, like the first season and first arcade game, or traveling through time to save the statue of liberty, would be awesome concepts for a 1987 ot movie.

08-19-2015, 02:29 PM	#10
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Well, your friend is a dummy.

08-19-2015, 02:41 PM	#12
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	It makes me wonder why the first season wasn't shot as a "movie" It makes sense because unlike other seasons, this one follows a chronological order meaning you have to see it from the beginning to understand what's going on. Not to mention the animation is much better than it is in the later seasons and movies almost always have better animation than shows.

08-19-2015, 03:00 PM	#15
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	If anything shoulda been cut it's those God-awful Neutrinos.

08-20-2015, 08:53 AM	#19
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	They're a waste of space in season 1, & entirely the product of a Fred Wolf board meeting or whatever. Those dorks are just misplaced culture mish-mashes that interrupt the flow of the story & make for a really goofy episode in the middle of a relatively serious arc. Krang is at least somewhat based on the Utroms, & Bebop/Rocksteady are grimey imposing monsters, so they're acceptable.

08-20-2015, 08:59 AM	#20
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	They aren't the worst characters out there and aren't nearly annoying as some others. As far as being a waste of space, I disagree. It gave us a little more of a closer look in Dimension X. There were a lot of bad people in Dimension X but there were quite a few good people and it showed that. It also gave us a little more of a perspective of Dimension X. We know it was a place of total war but seeing characters who are good and share their experience is interesting as it gives us a better understanding of how horrible of a place it is. Sure you can show Dimension X, but you really feel for the characters who are good and have to suffer such misfortune. Plus it showed the Turtles getting along with some non humans. Neutrinos don't have the best reception in Dimension X due to their fun loving attitude and the Turtles don't have the best reception in the city either so it was interesting to see to non humans get along and somewhat relate to each other. I did wish it'd develop more as Mike was into Kala and I kind of wish they followed through with it. Otherwise the romance is kind of a tease. Really I don't have a problem with the Neutrinos.