Star Wars Episode 7 - Page 27

*sdp* · 08-29-2015, 11:46 AM

I think he's a red herring and the girl will be the new Jedi. He'll try to use the lightsaber in one scene of the movie but he's not the Jedi in the film. The girl just has a more Jedi look to me and makes more sense that he'd be related to look since she's not black. Having him be the Jedi is fine with me as long as the "my family, you have that power too" quote still made sense, you can't have that quote to hype people up and then not have a skywalker member not be the next Jedi. I'd still be fine with it just to watch racist people get their panties in a bunch over the main character being black and a Jedi. Having two Jedi would be fine as well, maybe he could be the Padawan or whatever.

*NinjaPug* · 08-29-2015, 12:15 PM

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I think he's a red herring and the girl will be the new Jedi. He'll try to use the lightsaber in one scene of the movie but he's not the Jedi in the film. The girl just has a more Jedi look to me and makes more sense that he'd be related to look since she's not black. Having him be the Jedi is fine with me as long as the "my family, you have that power too" quote still made sense, you can't have that quote to hype people up and then not have a skywalker member not be the next Jedi. I'd still be fine with it just to watch racist people get their panties in a bunch over the main character being black and a Jedi. Having two Jedi would be fine as well, maybe he could be the Padawan or whatever.

I agree. Rey is going to be the one related to Luke and Leia that continues the Skywalker saga. Part of me also thinks she'll be the sister or cousin of Kylo Ren.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2015, 01:17 PM

I thought it was obvious Rey was the new main character or heroine of this new trilogy? She's clearly related to Luke as seen by the trailer and there doesn't seem to be any male lead more important than her. Finn looks to be her friend and you have Han Solo there, but Rey is the star.

Do people find it odd they chose to have a female lead as the main heroine of the new films, when previously Luke and Anakin were the main stars? Were people expecting another male hero or something?

I think its refreshing to have a female lead. I just think people are worried she'll become overrated like Katniss from The Hunger Games films.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-29-2015, 01:42 PM

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In the comics Luke eventually brought back the Jedi Order and trained a whole new generation of younger Jedi in the way of the force. I wonder if they did something similar in this new universe.

That was started in the novels first. Truce at Bakura and the Heir to the Empire trilogy novels started the Han/Leia match rolling, and their twins (and later Anikin Jr.) were all Jedi trainees. However, only Jaina survived, as Anikin 2 sacrificed himself while still young, and Jacen was killed by his sister after he turned to the dark side. If that girl is anyone, ahs is probably Jaina Solo or perhaps Luka and Mara Jade's child.

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I think he's a red herring and the girl will be the new Jedi. He'll try to use the lightsaber in one scene of the movie but he's not the Jedi in the film. The girl just has a more Jedi look to me and makes more sense that he'd be related to look since she's not black. Having him be the Jedi is fine with me as long as the "my family, you have that power too" quote still made sense, you can't have that quote to hype people up and then not have a skywalker member not be the next Jedi. I'd still be fine with it just to watch racist people get their panties in a bunch over the main character being black and a Jedi. Having two Jedi would be fine as well, maybe he could be the Padawan or whatever.

Or they could both be Jedi, and he's simply one of the "new" generation Luke found and recruited. The Jedi Academy series introduced quite a few, so he might be one of them, though it's likely they simply changed the story or character for the "new" universe.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-29-2015, 02:07 PM

Why can't they both be Jedi? and why can't they both be the Star?

anyway I don't think they'd show Finn with Luke's lightsaber in the poster and in the concept art.....just to have it stripped from him and given to Rey....

I think he's keeping it.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2015, 03:47 PM

I'm assuming Finn's screentime will be similar to Han Solo's in the original trilogy, while Rey is the new Luke. So they're both the stars but I expect Rey to be the main focus.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 08-29-2015, 05:02 PM

Maybe Luke dies and the new guy "inherits" his lightsaber? Or it's given to him? Just a couple of ideas. And I'd go for the two leads idea. Maybe they are working together.

*Foombamaroom* · 08-29-2015, 05:09 PM

I'm pretty sure Finn's the main character of the movie, but I could see it being Rey, too. Personally, I hope that while they have a clear cut protagonist (One of the big problems of the prequels), they give all three leads (Finn, Rey, and Poe) a certain amount of balance. I'm really interested to see the dynamic of the three new leads. Hopefully they'll have the same chemistry that Luke/Leia/Han had.

*blindturtle02* · 08-29-2015, 05:18 PM

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Maybe Luke dies and the new guy "inherits" his lightsaber? Or it's given to him? Just a couple of ideas. And I'd go for the two leads idea. Maybe they are working together.

I'm hoping she turns out to be a Jedi. I like the two leads idea too. I'm also interested in this whole Knights of Ren thing, including Kylo's Supreme Leader.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2015, 05:29 PM

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I'm pretty sure Finn's the main character of the movie, but I could see it being Rey, too. Personally, I hope that while they have a clear cut protagonist (One of the big problems of the prequels), they give all three leads (Finn, Rey, and Poe) a certain amount of balance. I'm really interested to see the dynamic of the three new leads. Hopefully they'll have the same chemistry that Luke/Leia/Han had.

Finn's in no way the main character. Rey is front and center on all the promotional material and she's directly related to Luke. I can't see her not being the lead.

I mean I'm kinda confused why you think Finn would be more important?

*The Stryker* · 08-29-2015, 07:13 PM

I'm expecting Kylo Ren to be a Darth Vader clone or something.

Why? Because it's stupid. (Also Disney merchandising opportunities)

Also. Why can't Finn be a part of the Skywalker family or just be a jedi on his own?

*Foombamaroom* · 08-29-2015, 09:05 PM

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Finn's in no way the main character. Rey is front and center on all the promotional material and she's directly related to Luke. I can't see her not being the lead.

I mean I'm kinda confused why you think Finn would be more important?

Finn and Rey have equally shared the promotional material. Plus, Finn's got the lightsaber, which makes me think that Rey isn't connected with the Force, which makes me think that she has nothing to do with the Skywalkers.

Also, something I really hope this movie does is keep the Jedi factor smaller than the prequels, much like they did with the original ones. The prequels had WAY too much Jedi **** going on, and a lightsaber would pop up every 5 seconds. It just didn't feel like the world of Star Wars. If Luke established a new Jedi Order, I hope it's much smaller (maybe 30 members tops?) than what we saw in the prequels. I'd rather see the thing focused on the world of Star Wars (Fighter Jets, Kylo Ren, the path to becoming someone using the Force) rather than JUST about the Jedi with artificial environments.

*CyberCubed* · 08-29-2015, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

Finn and Rey have equally shared the promotional material. Plus, Finn's got the lightsaber, which makes me think that Rey isn't connected with the Force, which makes me think that she has nothing to do with the Skywalkers.

One of the first trailers has Luke tell Rey that the "Force is strong in my family, and you have that power too," and she's clearly related to him. You don't think Finn, a black man, is related to Luke, do you? Finn might be a Jedi too but its probably because he gets trained to be one by someone.

Also you seriously don't think the offspring of Luke or Leia would be the main star of the movie? I mean that's common sense, show how the Skywalker family progresses.

Are people afraid of having a female lead in the new Star Wars films or something? Its almost like people think a girl can't be the main star.

*NinjaPug* · 08-29-2015, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

One of the first trailers has Luke tell Rey that the "Force is strong in my family, and you have that power too," and she's clearly related to him. You don't think Finn, a black man, is related to Luke, do you? Finn might be a Jedi too but its probably because he gets trained to be one by someone.

That was dialogue from ROTJ when Luke was talking to Leia.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-30-2015, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

One of the first trailers has Luke tell Rey that the "Force is strong in my family, and you have that power too," and she's clearly related to him. You don't think Finn, a black man, is related to Luke, do you? Finn might be a Jedi too but its probably because he gets trained to be one by someone.

Also you seriously don't think the offspring of Luke or Leia would be the main star of the movie? I mean that's common sense, show how the Skywalker family progresses.

Are people afraid of having a female lead in the new Star Wars films or something? Its almost like people think a girl can't be the main star.

um I don't think we have proof Rey is related to Luke.....

also between black lead character and female lead character I'd say it's a win win either way XD though it would be super awesome if they were both equal leads~

*CyberCubed* · 08-30-2015, 01:14 AM

Rey is likely related to either Luke or Han/Leia. They're definitely going to continue the lineage. She could be Han's daughter given he has a major role in the film.

*The Stryker* · 08-30-2015, 06:12 AM

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You don't think Finn, a black man, is related to Luke, do you?

Uh. Why not? Luke is capable of having a child with a black woman. Why is that so impossible?

Hell Finn and Rey could be cousins for all we know. (Which is close to nothing)

*Foombamaroom* · 08-30-2015, 06:21 AM

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Uh. Why not? Luke is capable of having a child with a black woman. Why is that so impossible?

Hell Finn and Rey could be cousins for all we know. (Which is close to nothing)

Actually, it is a bit impossible: based on the abysmal dialogue from Lucas, I think it mentioned that Jedi weren't allowed to love/bang.

And Cubed, calm the f*ck down, man. We get it, you think Rey is related to the Skywalkers. However, if she is, that DOESN'T mean she's the main character of the movie. I'm fine with her being the main character, and quite frankly, I'd be fine with Poe or Finn being the main character, but we don't know. We'll just have to see the movie. Rey's last name hasn't been revealed, so maybe she has something to do with the Skywalkers OR another family?

*The Stryker* · 08-30-2015, 07:07 AM

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Actually, it is a bit impossible: based on the abysmal dialogue from Lucas, I think it mentioned that Jedi weren't allowed to love/bang.

Sure but Luke wasn't really formally trained by the jedi order and blah blah. So he doesn't need to be some weird robot space monk.

Didn't stop his dad either.

*Foombamaroom* · 08-30-2015, 07:29 AM

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Sure but Luke wasn't really formally trained by the jedi order and blah blah. So he doesn't need to be some weird robot space monk.

Didn't stop his dad either.

Well, his dad was a whiny little boy who got what he deserved. XD

Personally, I think not focusing on the Jedi factor of Star Wars too heavily would be a smart idea. Either way, I'm super excited.

08-29-2015, 11:46 AM	#521
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,203	I think he's a red herring and the girl will be the new Jedi. He'll try to use the lightsaber in one scene of the movie but he's not the Jedi in the film. The girl just has a more Jedi look to me and makes more sense that he'd be related to look since she's not black. Having him be the Jedi is fine with me as long as the "my family, you have that power too" quote still made sense, you can't have that quote to hype people up and then not have a skywalker member not be the next Jedi. I'd still be fine with it just to watch racist people get their panties in a bunch over the main character being black and a Jedi. Having two Jedi would be fine as well, maybe he could be the Padawan or whatever. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

08-29-2015, 02:07 PM	#525
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	Why can't they both be Jedi? and why can't they both be the Star? anyway I don't think they'd show Finn with Luke's lightsaber in the poster and in the concept art.....just to have it stripped from him and given to Rey.... I think he's keeping it. __________________

08-29-2015, 05:02 PM	#527
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08-29-2015, 07:13 PM	#531
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I'm expecting Kylo Ren to be a Darth Vader clone or something. Why? Because it's stupid. (Also Disney merchandising opportunities) Also. Why can't Finn be a part of the Skywalker family or just be a jedi on his own? __________________ @~<3 Mom~@ Last edited by The Stryker; 08-29-2015 at 08:10 PM.

08-29-2015, 01:17 PM	#523
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	I thought it was obvious Rey was the new main character or heroine of this new trilogy? She's clearly related to Luke as seen by the trailer and there doesn't seem to be any male lead more important than her. Finn looks to be her friend and you have Han Solo there, but Rey is the star. Do people find it odd they chose to have a female lead as the main heroine of the new films, when previously Luke and Anakin were the main stars? Were people expecting another male hero or something? I think its refreshing to have a female lead. I just think people are worried she'll become overrated like Katniss from The Hunger Games films.

08-29-2015, 03:47 PM	#526
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	I'm assuming Finn's screentime will be similar to Han Solo's in the original trilogy, while Rey is the new Luke. So they're both the stars but I expect Rey to be the main focus.

08-29-2015, 05:09 PM	#528
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	I'm pretty sure Finn's the main character of the movie, but I could see it being Rey, too. Personally, I hope that while they have a clear cut protagonist (One of the big problems of the prequels), they give all three leads (Finn, Rey, and Poe) a certain amount of balance. I'm really interested to see the dynamic of the three new leads. Hopefully they'll have the same chemistry that Luke/Leia/Han had.

08-30-2015, 01:14 AM	#536
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	Rey is likely related to either Luke or Han/Leia. They're definitely going to continue the lineage. She could be Han's daughter given he has a major role in the film.