Shouldn't Leonardo pair up with Mona Lisa?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Maybe Mona Lisa should be written as a strong, compelling, fully fleshed character, before she turns into a cute-girlfriend-accessory to whatever guy the writer want to hook her up with.


Speaking off matching their name sakes. Real-Life Michelangelo was extremely temperamental and would screw you over big time if you dared to interfere with his art, like Monsignor Biaggio Da Casena, a friend of the Pope did, suggesting that the Last Judgement was obscene with people being naked, and convinced the Pope that the people in the painting s privates had to be covered.

Old Mike was so pissed, he painted Biaggio among the damned as a demon with donkey ears and a snake biting his balls.

I had forgotten about that bit, LOL! He was also noted for responding to a suggestion that the David's nose was too big by "chiseling" it to be more proportionate- though in reality, all he did (allegedly) was take some marble dust up and pretend to chip at the nose, while dropping the dust to make it look like he was "fixing" it- When he came back down, his detractor said it looked much better. Very "ninja"-y of him LOL! And apparently he was a bit of a poet, too. I've read bits of some of his poetry- very mushy stuff directed at a female friend, which makes me sort of doubt the rumors that he was gay....

[Bombshell]

I don't mind the turtles pairing off with a female. Raph is married to a dog (wolf, coyote?) named Mezcaal, there was Ninjara, then of course there were Leo's interests with Karai and Lotus. Don and Mike's interests...they've all been mentioned. Heck, you don't need to be a sentient creature in order to chase after the opposite sex.

My only real question is that different species find different qualities attractive. So what would the turtles find pleasing to the eye? They're humanoid reptiles. (Getting all technical now) Hybrid animals sometimes have a hard time using their instincts because of their mixes. Would the turtles find the typical female attributes attractive in humans? Can you imagine how hard "The Talk" would have been for Splinter?

Back on subject...Leo and Mona pairing up simply because of their names seems a bit too cliche' for my liking. I don't like cliche's. They're too derivative.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Heh, cute. And I'm in agreement on that one. As for "the Talk", I believe it's been covered, here:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3598162/1/The-Talk

It started out innocently enough, but.... Well, let's just say this was not a subject that ANY of them were prepared for!!

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

And apparently he was a bit of a poet, too. I've read bits of some of his poetry- very mushy stuff directed at a female friend, which makes me sort of doubt the rumors that he was gay....

Didn't know about his female friend, but he did have a huge crush on the nobleman Tommaso de’ Cavalieri, and devoted poems and artworks to him, like The Rape of Ganymede. Even after Tommaso got married, Michelangelo kept being devout to him. Sadly, when Michelangelo's nephew published his poems around early 1600's, the gender was switched to female rather then male.

And it's very clear where Mike's interest lies, his grasp on the male body is divinely flawless and near perfect. But, the dude can't draw women's bodies even if his life depended on it, as they just look like men with rotten apples stuck to their chest.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by TurtleFan2012

Maybe not as a couple, but they could be good friends.
Wouldn't it make sense to have Leonardo befriend Mona since Leonardo da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa (a bit of an in-joke)?

1987 or 2012 cartoon?

[cryan]

I really liked Mona Lisa.I thought she was rather sexy which I didn't mind.The hatred for her amazes me.What's not to like?The distain for her reminds me of the Sega community's hatred for Sally of the Saturday morning version of Sonic The Hedgehog.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Didn't know about his female friend, but he did have a huge crush on the nobleman Tommaso de’ Cavalieri, and devoted poems and artworks to him, like The Rape of Ganymede. Even after Tommaso got married, Michelangelo kept being devout to him. Sadly, when Michelangelo's nephew published his poems around early 1600's, the gender was switched to female rather then male.

And it's very clear where Mike's interest lies, his grasp on the male body is divinely flawless and near perfect. But, the dude can't draw women's bodies even if his life depended on it, as they just look like men with rotten apples stuck to their chest.

That's interesting. I'd read some of the poems, but was unaware of the gender switch. As for his tastes, I knew about some of the supposed crushes, but given the tendency of historians to "dig up dirt" pointing to famous people's preferences, I've always taken it with a grain of salt as the same thing was said of many of his contemporaries, including both Leonardo and Raphael. Not to say it wasn't true, it just seems that people are a bit too ready to paint them as deviants in that regard. Along with almost half of Italy at the time, apparently.

And it's true that he had difficulty depicting nude women, but he had NO trouble at all on the Pieta! Mary was every bit as beautiful as any of his male works.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

And it's true that he had difficulty depicting nude women, but he had NO trouble at all on the Pieta! Mary was every bit as beautiful as any of his male works.

Yeah, he's good with feminine features in the face, so as long as he depicts women clothed, he's covered

Makes one wonder, if he's just good with feminine facial features, since he have done depictions of feminine guys...

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Well, women in general were shown much more chunky and muscular in art at the time anyway, and not just by him, either. But since women in that time period often WERE larger in girth and musculature due to lifeestyle and what was considered attractive (IE, wider hips, thicker waist, etc.) it's not surprising he made them that way. And maybe he just had trouble painting or sculpting boobs? Many artists seem to have that problem and cant get them to look natural, lol!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Speaking off matching their name sakes. Real-Life Michelangelo was extremely temperamental and would screw you over big time if you dared to interfere with his art, like Monsignor Biaggio Da Casena, a friend of the Pope did, suggesting that the Last Judgement was obscene with people being naked, and convinced the Pope that the people in the painting s privates had to be covered.

Old Mike was so pissed, he painted Biaggio among the damned as a demon with donkey ears and a snake biting his balls.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I had forgotten about that bit, LOL! He was also noted for responding to a suggestion that the David's nose was too big by "chiseling" it to be more proportionate- though in reality, all he did (allegedly) was take some marble dust up and pretend to chip at the nose, while dropping the dust to make it look like he was "fixing" it- When he came back down, his detractor said it looked much better. Very "ninja"-y of him LOL! And apparently he was a bit of a poet, too. I've read bits of some of his poetry- very mushy stuff directed at a female friend, which makes me sort of doubt the rumors that he was gay....

I slept through my entire art history class... had I known that Michelangelo was a badass, I would've made more of an effort to stay awake. But I doubt my professor would've covered it anyway. Made Hogwarts' Professor Binns look like freaking Neil deGrasse Tyson.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I slept through my entire art history class... had I known that Michelangelo was a badass, I would've made more of an effort to stay awake. But I doubt my professor would've covered it anyway. Made Hogwarts' Professor Binns look like freaking Neil deGrasse Tyson.

This comic strip perfectly encapsulate Michelangelo

http://41.media.tumblr.com/1bb037aab...w62o1_1280.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

This comic strip perfectly encapsulate Michelangelo

http://41.media.tumblr.com/1bb037aab...w62o1_1280.jpg

ROFL. The perfect example of tempermental artists. DON'T YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT TO PAINT/SCULPT/WRITE!!!!

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I slept through my entire art history class... had I known that Michelangelo was a badass, I would've made more of an effort to stay awake. But I doubt my professor would've covered it anyway. Made Hogwarts' Professor Binns look like freaking Neil deGrasse Tyson.

LOL! You think he was "interesting"- Raphael was the REAL "party boy" of the time! I have a book about the three "big" artists of the time- Leonardo, Michelangelo, and Raphael- that was tied to a PBS documentary that aired back in the early 90's called "A Season of Giants", and it had some really cool stuff about all three. The book is titled the same as the documentary, and you can probably find it on Amazon if you look. The documentary was really neat too, as it was done more like a historical drama that dealt with all three artists and their lives. I remember watching it one summer while home alone. It was a five-hour mini-series, if memory serves.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Ehhhh... I'd like to pair her and Leo up for personal preference reasons (Also not to stand in the way of Alopex/Ninjara), but for OT tradition's sake, I guess she should stay with Raph!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

LOL! You think he was "interesting"- Raphael was the REAL "party boy" of the time! I have a book about the three "big" artists of the time- Leonardo, Michelangelo, and Raphael- that was tied to a PBS documentary that aired back in the early 90's called "A Season of Giants", and it had some really cool stuff about all three. The book is titled the same as the documentary, and you can probably find it on Amazon if you look. The documentary was really neat too, as it was done more like a historical drama that dealt with all three artists and their lives. I remember watching it one summer while home alone. It was a five-hour mini-series, if memory serves.

Donatello was a generation before the other three, right?

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yup. Technically two (or three?) generations, as he was inspiration for da Vinci's mentor, and Leonardo himself was much older than the other two. But he was the "first" of the four, so- meh. Hence why Donatello should "lead" if we're being more historically "accurate". I DO think that of the bunch, Leonardo is the most fascinating, due to his varied interests and his uncanny genius.

For those who are interested, here's the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Season-Giants-...iants-+Labella

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Michelangelo...item25914ef385

And the documentary, if anyone would like to watch it!

(Part 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOiEXdfOxw

(Here's the wiki entry on it- it was in 1990!):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Season_of_Giants