Tim Hill Writing "The April O'Neil Files" Pilot For Nickelodeon - Page 7

*ssjup81* · 09-01-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

April is already sexualized in the series with tons of butt shots, so what difference does it make? At least this isn't anime or else you would have locker room scenes of April undressing or panty shots or April lifting up her shirt.

How can one person show so much ignorance?

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Seriously, the way you people complain about cartoons it makes me realize you guys have no idea what goes on in Japanese anime that's aimed at kids the same way Nick's TMNT show is.

Obviously you don't know what goes on either...

*Papenbrook* · 09-01-2015, 06:51 PM

That doesn't mean its right. Japan has different standards than the United States.

*CyberCubed* · 09-01-2015, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

How can one person show so much ignorance?Obviously you don't know what goes on either...

Really? Even anime aimed at kids like Dragonball has Bulma pulling up her panties and bare ass shots in several episodes.

Kids animes sexualize teen girls all the time.

*TurtleTitan97* · 09-01-2015, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Really? Even anime aimed at kids like Dragonball has Bulma pulling up her panties and bare ass shots in several episodes.

Kids animes sexualize teen girls all the time.

Oh brother.

*ssjup81* · 09-01-2015, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

That doesn't mean its right. Japan has different standards than the United States.

No one really is. I just personally hate blanket statements. That's like saying all white guys like rock and racist rednecks or that all blacks smoke weed and listen to rap or that Latinos sit around drinking Tequila with a bunch of kids...I dunno. I hate stereotypes and blanket statements.

You'd probably never see sexualized characters in shows literally aimed at young kids. That'd be weird. Anpanman with sexualized characters. Creepy thinking about it. That aside, yes women and girls are sexualized in some way everywhere. It also depends on the demographic and crap like that of said series for the Japan shows/comics.

Shows that feature people bathing (unless it's ecchi stuff), btw, isn't sexualizing. It's ingrained into the culture and people bathe together, like parents with their kids (weird to me, but I blame my being from the US for that). Nudity isn't seen in the same way here. Breastfeeding isn't taboo, for instance and at an early age kids, know of the body differences because they change in front of one another and use the same restroom. They learn at a young age that nudity isn't a big deal. Elementary School is when they separate them.

*ssjup81* · 09-01-2015, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Really? Even anime aimed at kids like Dragonball has Bulma pulling up her panties and bare ass shots in several episodes.

That's more of an exception than the rule.

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Kids animes sexualize teen girls all the time.

Thank you. I have learned that Dragonball = all anime.

*CyberCubed* · 09-01-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

That's more of an exception than the rule. Thank you. I have learned that Dragonball = all anime.

Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh and other "kids anime" all have fanservice scenes that sexualize the female characters in them. And most of the girls on those shows are as young as 10 and early teens.

*TurtleTitan97* · 09-01-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Pokemon, Digimon, Yu-gi-oh and other "kids anime" all have fanservice scenes that sexualize the female characters in them. And most of the girls on those shows are as young as 10 and early teens.

Oh, really? Then by all means Cubed, share with us some examples of this from those shows. Because you CLEARLY are an expert when it comes to anime.

*CyberCubed* · 09-01-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Oh, really? Then by all means Cubed, share with us some examples of this from those shows. Because you CLEARLY are an expert when it comes to anime.

Well if you watched the shows you would probably know, various swimsuit scenes or suggestive camera shots that focus on cleavage/legs, etc. Yu-gi-oh especially has tons of fanservice since its also technically a shonen show and not aimed at just kids.

*Papenbrook* · 09-01-2015, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well if you watched the shows you would probably know, various swimsuit scenes or suggestive camera shots that focus on cleavage/legs, etc. Yu-gi-oh especially has tons of fanservice since its also technically a shonen show and not aimed at just kids.

Your delusional. Not every anime has fanservice.

*TurtleTitan97* · 09-01-2015, 07:41 PM

I have watched them, but it's been years since I saw them and I honestly don't feel the urge to go back and watch all those episodes.

And you still didn't provide any examples. But I don't want this thread to go off topic than it already has so I'll just leave it at that and leave you to your delusions about anime.

*CyberCubed* · 09-01-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Your delusional. Not every anime has fanservice.

Not every, but most do.

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

And you still didn't provide any examples. But I don't want this thread to go off topic than it already has so I'll just leave it at that and leave you to your delusions about anime.

Just go on google and type in the series name and fanservice. You'll find a whole bunch of examples as some people catalogued all this on either sites or youtube videos.

*victory_angel* · 09-01-2015, 08:07 PM

Maybe this project would be events from the show from her point of view. For example we have her writing in that journal in the beginning of season one. Such as for example there are moments where something happens and then the series just doesn't focus on it any longer, such as that the three months at the farm house...that could be an entire arc.

*BabyTurtles* · 09-01-2015, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You don't watch much cartoons/anime, do you? Teenage girls are sexualized in superhero cartoons and anime all the time.

and it's all wrong. Anime/comics/cartoons doesn't matter it's still wrong.

Also...what is up with people and anime? it's like just cause it's anime we can throw our morals out the door.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 09-01-2015, 09:45 PM

Anime is from a culture that views things like public bathing, and nudity differently than we do, though. Different set of morals there. Can't compare it with Western cultural norms.

*BabyTurtles* · 09-01-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Anime is from a culture that views things like public bathing, and nudity differently than we do, though. Different set of morals there. Can't compare it with Western cultural norms.

Sorry I can get that to a degree but there are some straight up perverted stuff in anime that's wrong not matter which country views it.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-01-2015, 10:35 PM

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 09-01-2015, 11:04 PM

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ROFL! Not gonna lie- I kind of agree.

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Sorry I can get that to a degree but there are some straight up perverted stuff in anime that's wrong not matter which country views it.

First off, most of the stuff Cubed is talking about, is in animes aimed at ADULTS. Things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, etc. Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and even Inuyasha have SOME little "fanservice" moments, but again, they are aimed at an older audience, NOT kids as he seems to think. Most of those anime are aimed at the 15-20+ crowd, actually. In other words, an audience that is more mature to begin with.

Secondly, what WE consider perverted (the bathing, locker room scenes, and similar scenes) is not at all to them. It's normal. Even parents and kids or sibling or whatever in the same tub or pool naked- they don't look at it as a sexual thing AT ALL.

*oldmanwinters* · 09-01-2015, 11:12 PM

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Guys you do realise this is only a pilot and won't be shown to the public (unless it gets leaked), it's only just a test to see if Nick will like it or not. The show might not even happen.

Good reminder that even high profile pilots don't always get the green-light to go all the way into production:
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/nbc-cance...023616168.html

*BabyTurtles* · 09-02-2015, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

ROFL! Not gonna lie- I kind of agree.

First off, most of the stuff Cubed is talking about, is in animes aimed at ADULTS. Things like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Ninja Scroll, etc. Sailor Moon, Dragonball, and even Inuyasha have SOME little "fanservice" moments, but again, they are aimed at an older audience, NOT kids as he seems to think. Most of those anime are aimed at the 15-20+ crowd, actually. In other words, an audience that is more mature to begin with.

Secondly, what WE consider perverted (the bathing, locker room scenes, and similar scenes) is not at all to them. It's normal. Even parents and kids or sibling or whatever in the same tub or pool naked- they don't look at it as a sexual thing AT ALL.

Yea, I know anime. I watched it alot when I was a kid and I still watch it (not as much though)

and yea I also get that too.

Still whether it's aimed at teens or kids, anime tends to over sexualize their girls way too much. Such as Fairy Tail, which I heard was actually for kids.

but....anyway we are getting off track from the subject....bottomline...I hope April looks okay if this is a show or miniseries.

09-01-2015, 07:41 PM	#131
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	I have watched them, but it's been years since I saw them and I honestly don't feel the urge to go back and watch all those episodes. And you still didn't provide any examples. But I don't want this thread to go off topic than it already has so I'll just leave it at that and leave you to your delusions about anime. __________________

09-01-2015, 08:07 PM	#133
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09-01-2015, 06:51 PM	#122
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	That doesn't mean its right. Japan has different standards than the United States.