From an in-universe perspective, why did Crognard end the way it did?

[neatoman]

So as we all know at this point, Crognard ended with Crognard getting eaten. Considering the real life purpose of Crognard is to be a foreshadow joke, it's pretty funny but I have to wonder what the in-universe reason for killing Crognard was. Was the series cancelled? Was there some deeper meaning you had to have watched the other episodes to understand? Did the writers just hate the character and used the very last episode as a middle finger to the fanbase?

[ToTheNines]

No, we don't all know. Arse hole.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

No, we don't all know. Arse hole.

It's just speculation man.

[Candy Kappa]

Nice spoilers...

Spoiler:

Crognard died cause he was dumb enough trying to solo Tiamat, the Evil Queen of Cromatic Dragons

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[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by neatoman

It's just speculation man.

Spoiling what happens to Crognard in an episode that hasn't aired on TV yet isn't speculation.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by neatoman

It's just speculation man.

Are ya dense?

Originally Posted by neatoman

So as we all know at this point, Crognard ended with Crognard getting eaten.

[ssjup81]

You should really put spoiler in the title as well as in your first post as some of us haven't seen it because not everyone can use Nick's site (due to not living in the US or not having cable) and it hasn't aired on television yet. I'm in Japan for goodness sakes...

That aside, I did see the ep.., That shocked me...I just wasn't expecting that and my jaw was hanging...literally. Anyway, about what it possibly symbolized...

Spoiler:

I think it symbolized Zog's outcome. He stuck to his guns because that was what he believed and would "die with honor" to accomplish that goal. Crognard sorta did that too, wouldn't you say? I also think it showed how Zog underestimated not trusting the turtles and working together to take out the Kraang. Crognard went in solo too. He probably would've survived if he had his allies helping him.

[JTH]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Spoiling what happens to Crognard in an episode that hasn't aired on TV yet isn't speculation.

Don't tell Cubed this, he'll tell you everything about unaired episodes and seasons is common knowledge, even if you haven't seen or know anything about it...

[aliena]

Originally Posted by JTH

Don't tell Cubed this, he'll tell you everything about unaired episodes and seasons is common knowledge, even if you haven't seen or know anything about it...

Maybe Cubed is a writer for the show and pretends to be a super fan with tons of knowledge to throw us all off. Maybe he knows everything that is going to happen all the way to the end. Naw only kidding.

[aliena]

Originally Posted by neatoman

So as we all know at this point, Crognard ended with Crognard getting eaten. Considering the real life purpose of Crognard is to be a foreshadow joke, it's pretty funny but I have to wonder what the in-universe reason for killing Crognard was. Was the series cancelled? Was there some deeper meaning you had to have watched the other episodes to understand? Did the writers just hate the character and used the very last episode as a middle finger to the fanbase?

Spoiler:

I took the meaning to be for all those shows that fans love that end horribly or are slapped together at the last second just to get it over with. There was even some discussion and speculation that the writers were doing that very thing with the Nick show itself.

Crognard was actually pretty stupid even from the start when he made them rush and kill those innocent guys who wanted peace. He was more like an egomaniac who couldn't see reality going on around him. Only Spooch(?) seemed to know what was really going on.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by aliena

Crognard was actually pretty stupid even from the start when he made them rush and kill those innocent guys who wanted peace. He was more like an egomaniac who couldn't see reality going on around him. Only Spooch(?) seemed to know what was really going on.

I agree with that. And also there haven't been all that many episodes with Crognard compared to Space Heros and SMRFF.

But I agree with your views about the first episode where Crognard and his companions are essentially beating up those slug people, simply because they were slug people.

[ssjup81]

Guess the lesson here is that being all brawn and no brain will end in tragedy.

That aside, it's interesting how this was the first show where we got to see the ending.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I agree with that. And also there haven't been all that many episodes with Crognard compared to Space Heros and SMRFF.

But I agree with your views about the first episode where Crognard and his companions are essentially beating up those slug people, simply because they were slug people.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Luckyday

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But it's true isn't it. The Wizardess character just says "I sense danger," and then says "Ew slug people."

However usually in these shows within shows there is an actual threat presented. But the there wasn't any threat presented with the slug people so it looked like Crognard and his companions were slaughtering them for no reason aside from the fact they were Slug People.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

But it's true isn't it. The Wizardess character just says "I sense danger," and then says "Ew slug people."

However usually in these shows within shows there is an actual threat presented. But the there wasn't any threat presented with the slug people so it looked like Crognard and his companions were slaughtering them for no reason aside from the fact they were Slug People.

I know, Angel. I was agreeing with you in outrage.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

But I agree with your views about the first episode where Crognard and his companions are essentially beating up those slug people, simply because they were slug people.

It's very much in line with any people who play Dungeons & Dragons, many skip the role-playing part and just slaughter NPCs and Monsters alike, often making the excuse that the creatures are of evil alignment and it's okay to kill them because "reasons"

The Slug people, could very well be evil by default like Orcs, but this particular tribe was peaceful . The "Heroes" don't care cause they can slaughter the without (at least in their mind) repercussions.

[aliena]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Guess the lesson here is that being all brawn and no brain will end in tragedy.

That aside, it's interesting how this was the first show where we got to see the ending.

I kept thinking that either the tape would break and pop out of the machine because it was an old VHS tape or someone, or some thing, would burst into the Lair and break the player before they could finish it.

[MikeandRaph87]

This may sound silly considering I have seen every episode, but who is Crognard? If a character apparently died it would seem like it would be memorable not questioning who he is

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

This may sound silly considering I have seen every episode, but who is Crognard? If a character apparently died it would seem like it would be memorable not questioning who he is

This guy, dude:

[Haalix]

Spoiler:

I think it's foreshadowing for the actual season finale. like what happened in the Crognard finale, will happen with one of the TMNT characters.

And by the way Mikey keeps refusing to admit Crognard's death, I think he'll be with whoever dies and not wanting to admit his or her death. Though I think that's Splinter, since almost every spoiler says he'll die.