Should there be a Super Shredder?

Yabuturtle · 10-09-2015, 10:46 AM

I don't recall ever seeing a Super Shredder in the cartoons. None of the different versions of Shredder I've seen are like the Super Shredder from the 2nd Turtles movie or the video games.

*CyberCubed* · 10-09-2015, 12:32 PM

Well the only potential show for this to happen is the Nick cartoon, and since that show loves mutating characters it might actually happen.

~~ABrown~~ · 10-09-2015, 12:39 PM

If handled properly, I could definitely go for a Super Shredder.

*GoldMutant* · 10-09-2015, 12:49 PM

If he doesn't suicide.

For uniqueness, about time he gets used, but only when a show ends it's run. Otherwise, kinda ruins Shredder's purpose of being this destructive antagonist who can beat anyone.

Yabuturtle · 10-09-2015, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldMutant

If he doesn't suicide.

For uniqueness, about time he gets used, but only when a show ends it's run. Otherwise, kinda ruins Shredder's purpose of being this destructive antagonist who can beat anyone.

I would hope he doesn't, lol If he does, it should make sense. A super strong being like that I don't think would have died by having a bunch of wood fall on him anyway. I just don't know why they didn't make one in the cartoons yet.

But what kind of Super Shredder? The brawny savage-like one in the movie or the one in the games where he moves at incredible speeds, shoots fire, ice and a de-mutation ray? Or a combination of both or something entirely different?

*turtlefanforever* · 10-09-2015, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well the only potential show for this to happen is the Nick cartoon, and since that show loves mutating characters it might actually happen.

Followed by mega shredder, ultimate shredder, ect. Lol

*Candy Kappa* · 10-09-2015, 02:20 PM

They kinda did it in the OotS game, so something similar could be done in Nick.

*CyberCubed* · 10-09-2015, 02:25 PM

You know I kind of wonder why the original cartoon didn't do Super Shredder for one episode or so. Show Shredder power himself up with mutagen and go on a rampage, only for the Turtles to de-mutate him by the end of the episode.

Metropoliskid41 · 10-09-2015, 02:58 PM

Because that creates the dilemma of if Shredder can mutate and then be de-mutated, why can't they use that on Splinter and return him to human?

You have that out there, then it doesn't make sense for Splinter to remain around with essentially a "cure" out there for him.

The whole Retromutagen thing has been handled okay thus far on the NICK cartoon, of course with it pertaining to Splinter that's not much of an issue anymore. So go for it.

DevilSpooky · 10-09-2015, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41

Because that creates the dilemma of if Shredder can mutate and then be de-mutated, why can't they use that on Splinter and return him to human?

You have that out there, then it doesn't make sense for Splinter to remain around with essentially a "cure" out there for him.

The whole Retromutagen thing has been handled okay thus far on the NICK cartoon, of course with it pertaining to Splinter that's not much of an issue anymore. So go for it.

You mean like that De-Mutation ray that Shredder had that the Turtles stole and kept it for the rest of the show, even went on and use it in more then 1 episode? I guess that's to late for that...

John Pannozzi · 10-09-2015, 11:31 PM

For me, the armored version of Ch'rell from Turtles Forever was a Super Shredder.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-10-2015, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You know I kind of wonder why the original cartoon didn't do Super Shredder for one episode or so. Show Shredder power himself up with mutagen and go on a rampage, only for the Turtles to de-mutate him by the end of the episode.

The closest to this was how the plot was thought to be in "Attack of the 50 Foot Irma!" (but with a ray instead of mutagen)

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 10-10-2015, 04:16 PM

True. The idea was for Shredder to be enlarged and go Godzilla on the city. Instead, they ended up with Irma doing it.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-10-2015, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

True. The idea was for Shredder to be enlarged and go Godzilla on the city. Instead, they ended up with Irma doing it.

Yeah, but she more stamped the town by missake.

I think Supershredder and enlargement in general is a stupid concept for something like TMNT, which is supposed to take place in the shadows.

Yabuturtle · 10-10-2015, 09:36 PM

I personally don't mind if it takes place in the shadows or not, as long as it's entertaining. It's just strange how the idea of Super Shredder has been around yet they didn't once put him in the cartoon.

We've seen him get big and savage before but I also would like it if he moved fast like in the game where he left after images of himself, shooting fire, lightning, ice, and a de-mutation ray.

*Zulithe* · 10-10-2015, 09:43 PM

I can see it happening in Nick TMNT. If the show goes on long enough for them to work it in.

Nick TMNT loves to do rehashes and homages of past stuff and Super Shredder is one of those tentpole moments that I can see them itching to address.

*sdp* · 10-11-2015, 05:50 PM

Looking back it's odd it didn't happen, I mean Tokka and Rahzar were so popular they appeared in the videogames and eventually made it into the OT. Super Shredder was also super popular and was in videogames so I'm not sure why they never tried it. If it had been pre-Red Sky seasons it would've probably been a very goofy episode and maybe post-red sky it would've been too silly?

I hope the Nick show eventually has some type of Super Shredder.

Yabuturtle · 10-12-2015, 09:10 AM

If they have a Super Shredder they might save it for the final episode, and even might make a two parter out of it. It seems like a miss opportunity to not include a Super Shredder.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-20-2015, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

Looking back it's odd it didn't happen, I mean Tokka and Rahzar were so popular they appeared in the videogames and eventually made it into the OT. Super Shredder was also super popular and was in videogames so I'm not sure why they never tried it. If it had been pre-Red Sky seasons it would've probably been a very goofy episode and maybe post-red sky it would've been too silly?

I hope the Nick show eventually has some type of Super Shredder.

It had the Shredder clones.

10-09-2015, 10:46 AM	#1
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	Should there be a Super Shredder? I don't recall ever seeing a Super Shredder in the cartoons. None of the different versions of Shredder I've seen are like the Super Shredder from the 2nd Turtles movie or the video games.

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GoldMutant Control Your Narrative Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: New England Posts: 1,763	If he doesn't suicide. For uniqueness, about time he gets used, but only when a show ends it's run. Otherwise, kinda ruins Shredder's purpose of being this destructive antagonist who can beat anyone. __________________

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Metropoliskid41 Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Tundra Posts: 886	Because that creates the dilemma of if Shredder can mutate and then be de-mutated, why can't they use that on Splinter and return him to human? You have that out there, then it doesn't make sense for Splinter to remain around with essentially a "cure" out there for him. The whole Retromutagen thing has been handled okay thus far on the NICK cartoon, of course with it pertaining to Splinter that's not much of an issue anymore. So go for it. __________________ -------------------

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MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	True. The idea was for Shredder to be enlarged and go Godzilla on the city. Instead, they ended up with Irma doing it. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

10-09-2015, 12:32 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	Well the only potential show for this to happen is the Nick cartoon, and since that show loves mutating characters it might actually happen.

10-09-2015, 12:39 PM	#3
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	If handled properly, I could definitely go for a Super Shredder.

10-09-2015, 02:25 PM	#8
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	You know I kind of wonder why the original cartoon didn't do Super Shredder for one episode or so. Show Shredder power himself up with mutagen and go on a rampage, only for the Turtles to de-mutate him by the end of the episode.

10-10-2015, 09:36 PM	#15
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	I personally don't mind if it takes place in the shadows or not, as long as it's entertaining. It's just strange how the idea of Super Shredder has been around yet they didn't once put him in the cartoon. We've seen him get big and savage before but I also would like it if he moved fast like in the game where he left after images of himself, shooting fire, lightning, ice, and a de-mutation ray.

10-10-2015, 09:43 PM	#16
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	I can see it happening in Nick TMNT. If the show goes on long enough for them to work it in. Nick TMNT loves to do rehashes and homages of past stuff and Super Shredder is one of those tentpole moments that I can see them itching to address.

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sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,221	Looking back it's odd it didn't happen, I mean Tokka and Rahzar were so popular they appeared in the videogames and eventually made it into the OT. Super Shredder was also super popular and was in videogames so I'm not sure why they never tried it. If it had been pre-Red Sky seasons it would've probably been a very goofy episode and maybe post-red sky it would've been too silly? I hope the Nick show eventually has some type of Super Shredder. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-12-2015, 09:10 AM	#18
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	If they have a Super Shredder they might save it for the final episode, and even might make a two parter out of it. It seems like a miss opportunity to not include a Super Shredder.