It's been 20 years since Carter The Enforcer

[Icebot]

As you may or may not know, the old toon episode Carter The Enforcer first aired on October 28, 1995, exactly 20 years ago today. The reason this is so special is because the turtles time traveled 20 years into the future in that episode. Is anyone planning to watch this episode today because of the anniversary? What are your thoughts on this episode?

I remember I started a thread about Carter The Enforcer in the beginning of the year but I want to make clear that this one is different, the old one was mainly about if the future takes place in 2015 but this one is about the 20th anniversary in general.

[Shark_Blade]

Wow sounds like Back to the Future celebration we had recently. I've never seen the episode but I might youtube it later.

[neatoman]

And it was such an accurate depiction of 2015 too. I really do work for alien bug people in constant need of transport of goods.

Spoiler:

A postal service.

[Yabuturtle]

It's a dissapointment that time travel, hoverboards and flying cars aren't commercially avalable, but at least we don't serve alien bug overlords

[ABrown]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Wow sounds like Back to the Future celebration we had recently.

And THANK GOD the Chicago Cubs didn't actually end up winning the world series this year like they did in BTTF's 2015.

[CyberCubed]

I still can't believe its been 20 years since 1995. Where has the time gone?

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I still can't believe its been 20 years since 1995. Where has the time gone?

crazy stuff man

[Powder]

I wasn't planning to, but now that you've brought it to my attention, I just might! It was a favorite as a kid, after all. It was one of many episodes I had ripped onto VHS back in the day. So it got a lot of repeated viewings throughout my life.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Yabuturtle

It's a dissapointment that time travel, hoverboards and flying cars aren't commercially avalable, but at least we don't serve alien bug overlords

Well I bet back in the 60s, people also imagined the 90s as being super futuristic.

And I«'m pretty sure I've read online that they were planning on making hoverboards, or at least something close to them.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I still can't believe its been 20 years since 1995. Where has the time gone?

1995 was also the year Sega Saturn came out, wasn't it? And in a year(or some months), Super Mario 64 will turn 20. Let that sink in, man.

[Shark_Blade]

Watching that episode now (Season 9)..

Oh wow, so this is Lord Dregg where the Nick recent episode is based on? Obviously they look different but it's interesting nonetheless.


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[THGhost]

Ahhh the memories. I never really liked Carter, but it's cool that it's been exactly 20 years all the same.

Originally Posted by neatoman

And it was such an accurate depiction of 2015 too. I really do work for alien bug people in constant need of transport of goods.

Spoiler:

A postal service.

As somebody who is constantly screwed over by postal services' dire customer service, I find this hilarious.

[Shark_Blade]

I'd love to read more about this episode but there's no details on wiki..

In the vid they mentioned something about 20 years ago they used a time device to escape Carter. And Raph pissed off at the fancy clothes couple about "where were you 20 years ago?" So the turtles are like 15+20=35 years old right now? I'm so confused.

Oh wait, at the end they showed the couple as young kids. So they're from the future 20 years from "now". But what's all about 20 years ago?

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

I'd love to read more about this episode but there's no details on wiki..

In the vid they mentioned something about 20 years ago they used a time device to escape Carter. And Raph pissed off at the fancy clothes couple about "where were you 20 years ago?" So the turtles are like 15+20=35 years old right now? I'm so confused.

Oh wait, at the end they showed the couple as young kids. So they're from the future 20 years from "now". But what's all about 20 years ago?

I think when Raph said to Landor and Mertick "where were you 20 years ago?", he meant that they didn't do anything to help back then. Landor and Merrick point out that they were just children at the time so they couldn't do anything. That line could've been written better, though.

Anyway, Carter, the Enforcer was one of my favourite episodes as a kid and I rewatched it a few times. I watched it again for the first time in years recently, though, and it wasn't as good as I remembered it. It was good for its time, but the bad future from the 2003 episode "Same As It Never Was" was written much better. Carter, the Enforcer actually reminded me of that episode when viewing it recently.

It was interesting to see what would have happened if Dregg had conquered the Earth, though. I also liked that Landor and Merrick held hands as the Techno Gangsters ran towards them after they sent the turtles back to the present.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Wesley

I think when Raph said to Landor and Mertick "where were you 20 years ago?", he meant that they didn't do anything to help back then. Landor and Merrick point out that they were just children at the time so they couldn't do anything. That line could've been written better, though.

Anyway, Carter, the Enforcer was one of my favourite episodes as a kid and I rewatched it a few times. I watched it again for the first time in years recently, though, and it wasn't as good as I remembered it. It was good for its time, but the bad future from the 2003 episode "Same As It Never Was" was written much better. Carter, the Enforcer actually reminded me of that episode when viewing it recently.

It was interesting to see what would have happened if Dregg had conquered the Earth, though. I also liked that Landor and Merrick held hands as the Techno Gangsters ran towards them after they sent the turtles back to the present.

The only thing I found silly in that episode was the possibility of Carter working for Dregg all along when he met the Turtles before Dregg landed on Earth, and it's also pretty clear by their interactions that both Dregg and Carter had never met each other before.

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by Prowler

The only thing I found silly in that episode was the possibility of Carter working for Dregg all along when he met the Turtles before Dregg landed on Earth, and it's also pretty clear by their interactions that both Dregg and Carter had never met each other before.

Agreed. I found it hard to believe Landor and Merrik's story about Carter being a spy for Dregg as well for the same reason. Also, what happened to the real Carter in the bad future? Other than that, it was a decent episode.

[Yabuturtle]

Originally Posted by Wesley

Agreed. I found it hard to believe Landor and Merrik's story about Carter being a spy for Dregg as well for the same reason. Also, what happened to the real Carter in the bad future? Other than that, it was a decent episode.

It was implied that Dregg killed the real Carter. In the present time, when the android Carter claims to have defeated the Turtles, Dregg has no more use for the real Carter and orders the Techno Gang to blast him into outer space.

It was kind of dark as well when Landor and Merrick held hands at the end with the Techno Gang rushing towards them and implied that they died at the end. This episode reminded me of Shredderville when Shredder took over everything, although that was a dream and even despite it's darker tone, it still had lots of silly moments. Dregg's future however was real and was much darker and oppressive.

[ToTheNines]

I popped it in and watched with the girlfriend. She found it hilarious that they had those futuristic names, but we're only born in the early 90's.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Wesley

Agreed. I found it hard to believe Landor and Merrik's story about Carter being a spy for Dregg as well for the same reason. Also, what happened to the real Carter in the bad future? Other than that, it was a decent episode.

And besides, hadn't Carter pretended to side with Dregg in one of the previous episodes? So it's not like it was the first time the writers used the "Carter might be a traitor" plot.

[Wesley]

Originally Posted by Yabuturtle

It was implied that Dregg killed the real Carter. In the present time, when the android Carter claims to have defeated the Turtles, Dregg has no more use for the real Carter and orders the Techno Gang to blast him into outer space.

It was kind of dark as well when Landor and Merrick held hands at the end with the Techno Gang rushing towards them and implied that they died at the end. This episode reminded me of Shredderville when Shredder took over everything, although that was a dream and even despite it's darker tone, it still had lots of silly moments. Dregg's future however was real and was much darker and oppressive.

I agree that it was kind of dark when Landor and Merrick held hands. It was implied that they stood their ground and went down fighting, but it was sad that they sacrificed themselves to help the turtles. Dregg's future appeared to be more grim alright, especially when re-watching the episode again, as it's easy to forget some of the stuff that happened in the bad future, since the turtles were only there for a short time.

Originally Posted by Prowler

And besides, hadn't Carter pretended to side with Dregg in one of the previous episodes? So it's not like it was the first time the writers used the "Carter might be a traitor" plot.

Yep, Carter pretended to side with Dregg in the second episode of season 9, so if Carter was planning to betray the turtles, he would have done it back then I think.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Wesley

I agree that it was kind of dark when Landor and Merrick held hands. It was implied that they stood their ground and went down fighting, but it was sad that they sacrificed themselves to help the turtles. Dregg's future appeared to be more grim alright, especially when re-watching the episode again, as it's easy to forget some of the stuff that happened in the bad future, since the turtles were only there for a short time.



Yep, Carter pretended to side with Dregg in the second episode of season 9, so if Carter was planning to betray the turtles, he would have done it back then I think.

David Wise always loved to recycle plots. Although admittedly I'm not sure if he wrote both episodes or not.