Who actually enjoyed the 2015 Fantastic Four movie?

[THGhost]

I just finished watching it and I actually enjoyed it. Call me crazy but I thought the team's powers were really well done (although Reed's were never explained. Why did he get stretchy powers again?) and I liked how there was more of a focus on the science this time around. Sure it was cheesy in places,

Spoiler:

like the end where Reed comes up with their name

there was clearly parts from the trailers that were cut out, Victor Von Doom's origin was rather rushed and the final battle was way too short, but I don't think this movie is anywhere near as bad as people say it is. I hear it had a lot of interference from Fox which would explain those problems, so hopefully they'll smooth things out next time and make a sequel that more people actually like.
9% on Rotten Tomatoes? That's lower than Catwoman, and that movie has no redeeming features! Other than Halle Berry looking hot, obviously.

Am I alone here? Did anyone else enjoy this movie, even a little bit? I'm expecting a lot of no's.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Nope. Wanted to walk out of the theater about halfway through it, but stuck it out because I'd already paid good money for the ticket. Honestly, it was the first comic book movie I have ever actively loathed. Even TMNT was better in comparison, and at least IT was FUN!

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Nope. Wanted to walk out of the theater about halfway through it, but stuck it out because I'd already paid good money for the ticket. Honestly, it was the first comic book movie I have ever actively loathed. Even TMNT was better in comparison, and at least IT was FUN!

Care to elaborate as to why? I actually had fun watching the F4 get their powers and then banding together to defeat Doom.

[Jephael]

I gotta admit, I kinda liked the first half of the film right up until the characters actually got their powers. The rest of the movie just felt like an odd fan fiction. Also, I much prefer Kate Mara's version of Sue Storm over Jessica Alba.

[shuriken]

I might have. If I woulda watched it. Preferred to check out Ant Man because c'mon, Paul Rudd is awesome.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Jephael

I gotta admit, I kinda liked the first half of the film right up until the characters actually got their powers. The rest of the movie just felt like an odd fan fiction. Also, I much prefer Kate Mara's version of Sue Storm over Jessica Alba.

I'll admit I enjoyed the first half more, the rest wasn't so bad though. But it did show signs of interference from Fox.
The thing that bugged me about Kate Mara's version of Sue was the fact that she wore a wig during re-shoots. A very noticeable wig that's not even close to her actual hair. It was really jarring when her hair suddenly changed.

Originally Posted by shuriken

I might have. If I woulda watched it. Preferred to check out Ant Man because c'mon, Paul Rudd is awesome.

I may have enjoyed Fantastic Four, but even I will tell you that you made the right decision there.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Where to start.... well, for one thing, the "darker" tone was utterly unsuited to the characters and their origins and to the comic book, and there was almost NO family element to them, beyond the almost backhanded relationship between Sue and Johnny and his dad. Those were just some of the most obvious errors, along with the complete misrepresentation of Doom. He's not just a punk scientist with enviro-anarchist and nhililist outlook, he's a straight-up egocentric genius dictator with occult knowledge and skills, a power-hungry despot, and obsessed with the notion that he knows what's best for the world.

Reed was also woefully mischaracterized. The movie made him out to be a bit of a coward and a jackass, which he is not. Almost nothing about the movie was accuratecto the material.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Care to elaborate as to why? I actually had fun watching the F4 get their powers and then banding together to defeat Doom.

That "thing" was not Doctor Doom. It's a walking sorry excuse of garbage that makes Deadpool from X-Men Origins look like a faithful adaption of the character.

But that's just my opinion.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yup, pretty much this.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That "thing" was not Doctor Doom. It's a walking sorry excuse of garbage that makes Deadpool from X-Men Origins look like a faithful adaption of the character.

But that's just my opinion.

I was onboard to watch the film until I saw the leaked scene of "Doom" walking down the corridor fighting some soldiers.

Moral of the story? Watched Ant-man a second time instead.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That "thing" was not Doctor Doom. It's a walking sorry excuse of garbage that makes Deadpool from X-Men Origins look like a faithful adaption of the character.

But that's just my opinion.

I'll give you that one.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Nope. Wanted to walk out of the theater about halfway through it, but stuck it out because I'd already paid good money for the ticket. Honestly, it was the first comic book movie I have ever actively loathed. Even TMNT was better in comparison, and at least IT was FUN!

I'd also like to add that nobody should ever leave the theatre before a movie ends, no matter how bad it is. Because it's their own money they're wasting.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I was onboard to watch the film until I saw the leaked scene of "Doom" walking down the corridor fighting some soldiers.

Moral of the story? Watched Ant-man a second time instead.

Fighting?! That was FIGHTING?! There was no fighting there. That was just a bunch of lambs to the slaughter. Complete with the mallet(powers) to the head.

Time well spent, I'd say. Wish I'd gone to that one instead, myself.

[Candy Kappa]

Not seen it yet.

[Etsyturtle2]

Originally Posted by THGhost

I just finished watching it and I actually enjoyed it. Call me crazy but I thought the team's powers were really well done (although Reed's were never explained. Why did he get stretchy powers again?) and I liked how there was more of a focus on the science this time around. Sure it was cheesy in places,

Spoiler:

like the end where Reed comes up with their name

there was clearly parts from the trailers that were cut out, Victor Von Doom's origin was rather rushed and the final battle was way too short, but I don't think this movie is anywhere near as bad as people say it is. I hear it had a lot of interference from Fox which would explain those problems, so hopefully they'll smooth things out next time and make a sequel that more people actually like.
9% on Rotten Tomatoes? That's lower than Catwoman, and that movie has no redeeming features! Other than Halle Berry looking hot, obviously.

Am I alone here? Did anyone else enjoy this movie, even a little bit? I'm expecting a lot of no's.

like it just as much as tmnt 2014. So a lot! Reeds powers came from when he was stuck under the rock and it kind of implied that his body was stretched instead of crushed, because of the radiation or whatever.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Fighting?! That was FIGHTING?! There was no fighting there. That was just a bunch of lambs to the slaughter. Complete with the mallet(powers) to the head.

Time well spent, I'd say. Wish I'd gone to that one instead, myself.

I don't even remember, I've managed to block most of it from my mind. Except for the cracked green lava skull of Doom.

That's gonna haunt me the rest of my days... I mean, it's potentially a cool design. But no way in hell is that Doom. I don't know much about Doom, but I know that much.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I don't even remember, I've managed to block most of it from my mind. Except for the cracked green lava skull of Doom.

That's gonna haunt me the rest of my days... I mean, it's potentially a cool design. But no way in hell is that Doom. I don't know much about Doom, but I know that much.

Yeah, some things you just can't un-see.

One of the first things in it that I noticed that irked me was Johnny. Sooo.... He went from a flirty, cocky playboy type to a hot-headed street-racer?! I mean, Johnny's never really been known to have a short fuse, per se, though he does get himself into tough situations because of his impulsive streak. But there was so much about ALL of them that was out-of-character, I just couldn't enjoy the movie.

From a character and origin perspective, the original FF movies got them all FAR more accurate than the new one did, and the tone of those movies was also more in-line with the comics. They had more of the family dynamics, too. I honestly don't understand all the hate they get, because as an FF fan, I felt they got a lot right. They might have been a little cheesy, and gods know that 2 could have done better with "Galactus", but they at least understood who the characters WERE! Even Silver Surfer was far closer to his comic counterpart in those, and I'm not even a big fan of him. Also important was the feel of the movies, which for anyone who has read even a few issues, the comics are lively, fun, and exciting, even when they turn a bit serious and dramatic. The first two FF movies matched up with that perfectly, and I really did enjoy them. (Except for that Galactus thing)

But I had some pretty high expectations for the new one because of that, and it just was a total let-down on almost every level. One of the FEW things that was good about it was how the powers LOOKED. Except for Thing, which, again, he seemed "off", somehow, both visually and character-wise. Also- PUT SOME D@MN PANTS ON!!!!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yeah, some things you just can't un-see.

One of the first things in it that I noticed that irked me was Johnny. Sooo.... He went from a flirty, cocky playboy type to a hot-headed street-racer?! I mean, Johnny's never really been known to have a short fuse, per se, though he does get himself into tough situations because of his impulsive streak. But there was so much about ALL of them that was out-of-character, I just couldn't enjoy the movie.

From a character and origin perspective, the original FF movies got them all FAR more accurate than the new one did, and the tone of those movies was also more in-line with the comics. They had more of the family dynamics, too. I honestly don't understand all the hate they get, because as an FF fan, I felt they got a lot right. They might have been a little cheesy, and gods know that 2 could have done better with "Galactus", but they at least understood who the characters WERE! Even Silver Surfer was far closer to his comic counterpart in those, and I'm not even a big fan of him. Also important was the feel of the movies, which for anyone who has read even a few issues, the comics are lively, fun, and exciting, even when they turn a bit serious and dramatic. The first two FF movies matched up with that perfectly, and I really did enjoy them. (Except for that Galactus thing)

But I had some pretty high expectations for the new one because of that, and it just was a total let-down on almost every level. One of the FEW things that was good about it was how the powers LOOKED. Except for thing, which, again, he seemed "off", somehow, both visually and character-wise. Also- PUT SOME D@MN PANTS ON!!!!

Yeah, I've only seen the first of the two originals, but damn, what's wrong with Chris Evans? Michael Chiklis was great, too... and I could live with Alba and whoever played Reed. Doom's actor wasn't terrible either, even if EVERY writer seems terrified to make him the ruler of... sorry, can't remember his country at the moment.

People bitched about FF1 and FF2 (haven't seen it yet, so maybe the hate's a little more warranted) which were at least passable, and look what they got instead... that's a pretty lousy trade.

And I'm sorry, but a family of superheroes is inherently cheesy and old-school. Own it (like the Incredibles did) and be awesome.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I think one of the reasons some people disliked them was because the comics were first written back in the 60's (62 to be exact- I knows me stuff!), when comics were still very much "for kids". That works for the FF. This- whatever this was- doesn't. Unless one wants to go for the more serious and modern "Death of (fill in the blank)" issues that have been so popular for the FF in the past couple of decades. Personally, I'd have preferred a 3rd installment for the others, because at least that would have given us something more consistent with the comics, perhaps with Namor in it. I'd LOVE to see him on the big screen! (And sorry, Leo, but if you're reading this, HE came FIRST!!)

And you're right. There was nothing wrong with Evens, Alba, or Chicklis. In fact, when I first saw him, I thought "That guy IS Thing!" I was only vaguely familiar with him in passing from The Shield. Now he's on Gotham, and I have grown to really like him. But he was perfect for Ben Grimm; he had exactly the kind of no-nonsense, "I'm a bada$$ and what are ya gonna do about it" attitude that Thing needs. He was also much more heavily involved in the entire story, which was one reason I felt his character was wasted in the new movie.

Evens made for a far better (and more likable) Johnny, too. Signing autographs and hitting on girls, that's Johnny. Didn't see any of that side of him in this one.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I think one of the reasons some people disliked them was because the comics were first written back in the 60's (62 to be exact- I knows me stuff!), when comics were still very much "for kids". That works for the FF. This- whatever this was- doesn't. Unless one wants to go for the more serious and modern "Death of (fill in the blank)" issues that have been so popular for the FF in the past couple of decades. Personally, I'd have preferred a 3rd installment for the others, because at least that would have given us something more consistent with the comics, perhaps with Namor in it. I'd LOVE to see him on the big screen! (And sorry, Leo, but if you're reading this, HE came FIRST!!)

And you're right. There was nothing wrong with Evens, Alba, or Chicklis. In fact, when I first saw him, I thought "That guy IS Thing!" I was only vaguely familiar with him in passing from The Shield. Now he's on Gotham, and I have grown to really like him. But he was perfect for Ben Grimm; he had exactly the kind of no-nonsense, "I'm a bada$$ and what are ya gonna do about it" attitude that Thing needs. He was also much more heavily involved in the entire story, which was one reason I felt his character was wasted in the new movie.

Evens made for a far better (and more likable) Johnny, too. Signing autographs and hitting on girls, that's Johnny. Didn't see any of that side of him in this one.

To me, it seems that the two Fantastic Four movies are the equivalent of the Tim Burton Batman movies. They're pretty good for what they are, even though some of it might be a little dated. Then FF went full Schumacher with their F4NTASTIC movie.

If it weren't for the whole "Galactus is a cloud" thing from the sequel, I think the movies wouldn't garner nearly as much scorn. But again, I freely admit I don't know all that much about Marvel's First Family, so I'm only able to provide an outsider's perspective...

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Hmm, that's a pretty good analogy. FF= Burton Bat. I can agree with that!

As for the comics, if you're interested in learning more, there's always their wiki entry, or better yet, the Marvel Universe Wiki on their website. There are individual entries for each character. You could also try a few issues either on-line if you have a subscription, or just pick up one of the older trades. I started back in 2001, and found the book to be quite enjoyable, at least up until I quit reading in 2008 for lack of funds.