The Misfits

~~Leo656~~ · 07-13-2003, 10:54 AM

These guys are, seriously, one of the greatest bands of all time. Let's talk about 'em. (I know Matt'll be all up in this one)

Some people don't like the "newer" Misfits stuff after Glenn Danzig left but I do. In fact, I like the last two Misfits records way more than I like the last two Danzig records. (Danzig seems to have kinda lost his magic) Plus, I loved when they were in WCW for a few weeks hanging out with Vampiro. That was funny stuff.

Plus I met Jerry Only and he's a helluva nice guy.

Anyone else have any Misfits praise/comments/experiences? Someone must love 'em as much as I do.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 05:09 AM

Hell yeah! I like all of their music, new and old. You met Jerry Only? What was he like?

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 06:25 AM

Ah, gather 'round, my son, and I shall tell you a tale. A tale that began this past December at the famed Birch Hill Nightclub in New Jersey, home of the Misfits...

Was quite cold out, people standing on line around the building for hours waiting to get in. The place was packed tight, and I was right in front of the stage. When the latest version of The Misfits (Jerry, Marky Ramone, and Dez Cadena from Black Flag) came out, the place went nuts. They played tons of older stuff, Danzig-era, and a few off of American Psycho, and a lot of old Ramones songs. They also played their cover of "Day the Earth Caught Fire", a song by Japanese horror-rock band Balzac, and finished with a Christmas song that I missed the name of but I think it'llbe on their new album which comes out at the end of July.

At one point during the show I turned to the guy next to me and was like "If I shook Jerry's hand, I swear that'd be so awesome". Well, at the end of the show, Jerry came off the stage and jumped up on the metal guardrail, stood there in the "Jesus pose", then reached out and grabbed MY hand first out of all the people clawing at him. Then he stepped down, took out a Sharpie and just started signing aurographs for everyone. EVERYONE. Every person there who wanted an autograph, or a photo, got one. At one point early on people got kinda pushy, as people often do, and Jerry's like "Hey, relax, you guys are my home crowd, I aint leavin' til you're all taken care of."

He even let me and Mary hang out with him and talk to him while he signed for people. He explained the Devilock hairstyle ("Lotta hairspray, man, lotta hairspray"), how often he works out ("Every day, if I can help it." You don't realize it until you stand next to him how HUGE Jerry Only is), and we even talked about wrestling a bit. He said they had fun in WCW but that he hasn't been following it lately, and that he and Vampiro don't get along anymore.

I had to ask him why MicHale Graves isn't in the band anymore, and surprisingly he was very open about it. "Mike's a good kid, he's a great singer, but he has a lot of growing up to do, and he needs to do it on his time, not mine. I can't be postponing the start of a tour because my singer didn't bother showing up opening night. It's my band, it's my way or no way." I can understand that. He did speak very highly of Mike in general, though.

I also asked him who the "permanent singer" would be, and he did say something very interesting: "Me or Glenn, nobody else. If Glenn wants to do it, the door's open. I don't think so, but never say never, you know?"

Apparently Doyle is taking time out to be with his family, as his wife recently had a baby girl, but he will be back soon supposedly.

Dez Cadena was a cool guy as well. Mary yelled out "you're hot!" as he walked by, so Jerry grabbed him and gave him a hug and was like "C'mere cutie." All in all they seemed like they were all in good spirits, like they all got along well and were having fun being The Misfits. I think Marky was sick, he only came out and mingled briefly. Jerry had just gotten over a ten-day bout of strep throat, so it's possible.

Mary also kept slapping Jerry's ass. He didn't seem to mind. She just explained she has a thing for hugely-muscled guys in spandex.

He had someone take his picture with us and the kid was supposed to mail it to us but he never did.

All in all it was a great experience. I became a bigger Misfits fan after meeting them (and I was already a huge fan) just because Jerry is one of the legitimately nicest people I've ever had the pleasure to meet, and he genuinely cares about the fans.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 07:27 AM

Good story. I Hope someday that I will get to see them live. I would be surprised if Danzig rejoined the group though; considering his history with Jerry and all. What do you think about the 'Project 1950' CD that's coming out? I'm afraid of what it will sound like.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 07:50 AM

Yeah that's the one coming out at the end of this month. You know, I'm honestly more trepidatious based on the fact I'm not familiar with the songs rather than Jerry and Co.'s ability to *play* them. They're all talented, they ought to do decent versions. I'm one of the people who "got" what GNR was doing with "The Spaghetti Incident?!", and I enjoy that album tremendously, so maybe I'll enjoy this little project as well. I hope so, at any rate.

Got any favorite Misfits songs or albums? Do you tend to lean towards Danzig era or the newer stuff?

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 08:03 AM

It's hard to say which albums of the old stuff I like the best, seeing how there are several versions of most of the old songs. Of the new stuff; American Psycho is by far the best. Famous Monsters is ok, but I only like a handful of songs off of it though. As for a favorite song, at the moment it's Dust to Dust. My 'favorite' song of theirs' changes every week. How about you?

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 08:34 AM

I have pretty much similar feelings. I have the box set with the coffin containing the "classic" stuff, but sadly, it lacks "In the Doorway", which is a really good song. "Hybrid Moments" is one of my very favorite classic Misfits songs. Of course there are all the famous songs like "Attitude", "Last Caress" and "Die Die My Darling", but the fact that some really good covers of those songs have been done in recent years exposes how limited their recording equipment was back in 1980, and kind of makes them sound weak. I would love to hear those songs re-recorded.

That's one of the things that makes newer Misfits stuff sound as good as it does, the newer recording technology. I bought "Famous Monsters" first but "American Psycho" does have more good songs. "The Haunting" is by far my favorite new Misfits song. I just love that line, "Cut my wrists and watch me bleed"... The demo version of it has different lyrics but is just as good a song. You know Vampiro used "Kong at the Gates" as his theme music for a while?

But yeah they have so much good stuff that my favorites rotate rather frequently, there are a few that stand out at the top of my list. You hear "Day the Earth Caught Fire" yet?

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 08:49 AM

Most people say the best way to listen to the older songs is to buy the LPs and crank up the sound. I have the Collection II LP, and it sounds better then the CD. Of the old songs Hate Breeders, Horror Business, and Skulls are probably my all time favorites.

I don't remember Vampiro using Kong at the Gates as his entrance theme, I could have sworn it was Abominable Dr. Phibes that he used.

Just downloaded Day the Earth Caught Fire, sounds a lot like the old stuff to me; which is good.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 09:29 AM

He may have jumped back and forth a few times but I have one PPV tape where it was definitely Kong at the Gates. He had a lotta music. I liked "Take It" by ICP, too, after he wasn't with the Misfits anymore.

I remember when they debuted against Dr. Death and he almost killed Jerry

That angle was so cool, it's a shame it was all a backdrop for the "Oklahoma" gimmick. I woulda liked to see Jerry and Doyle go after the Tag belts.

Well hey, Alex Wright and Disco Inferno had 'em.

Ever get the "Cuts From the Crypt" CD?

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 09:39 AM

I couldn't stand the Inane Clown Posse. I also remember when they first appeared on Nitro, Tony Shivonnie acted like a moron when they came out.

I don't have the Cuts from the Crypt CD, but I have heard the version of Mars Attacks that is on it. I seriously need to buy me a copy of that CD because I can't find any of those songs online.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 09:43 AM

Yeah definitely do, the demos are great, a few have alternate lyrics, and there's some songs like "Bruiser", "10,000,000 Years B.C." and "Fiend Without a Face" that just rock. Plus there's "Monster Mash"

I'm not a big ICP fan myself but "Take It" is a good song. I liked Vampiro better with the Misfits by far though.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 09:50 AM

Oh, and "Dead Kings Rise", that one is equally awesome.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 09:53 AM

I liked Vampiro better when he was with the Misfits too. I read somewhere that the reason the band and Vampiro got on bad terms was because the Misfits logo was used without permission on some WCW toys.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-14-2003, 10:05 AM

It's possible. There was also an issue regarding Vampiro skipping matches to go and be on-stage at Misfits shows. Words were exchanged, blame got shifted back and forth... at one point Vampiro posted a *really* scathing message on his website attacking Jerry Only and saying he dressed as a sheep and had sex with little boys. After that they kind of stopped talking. Vampiro later retracted it and kind of sort of apologized but said he had no desire to hang out with them anymore.

I hear a lot of bad things about Vampiro, rumor has it he's kind of a jerk.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-14-2003, 09:14 PM

He sounds like a jerk.

*That Matt Guy* · 07-15-2003, 08:56 AM

I can't believe me a Leo are the only people on this forum that like the Misfits.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-15-2003, 12:57 PM

That's really a shame. It really is. People are so closed-minded.

I bet more than half of the people who bought Metallica's "Garage Inc." CD have never even bothered to go find out what the originals sounded like.

Personally, I think Metallica does a good job covering Misfits stuff, how about you?

Maniax_God · 07-15-2003, 03:43 PM

I like their song "Am I Evil". But the Metallica version sounds better, mainly because its newer. Have you all heard the live version with Both of those bands doing the song. Its cool...

*That Matt Guy* · 07-15-2003, 07:27 PM

The Misfits didn't do Am I Evil, that song was by Diamond Head. I can't remember which Misfits song Metallica covered on Garage Inc, I think it was Last Caress.

**GK Punk** · 07-15-2003, 09:03 PM

I thought AM I Evil was a danzig song? Or, is it a different one? (I never heard the Metallica cover to be honest)

07-13-2003, 10:54 AM	#1
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	The Misfits These guys are, seriously, one of the greatest bands of all time. Let's talk about 'em. (I know Matt'll be all up in this one) Some people don't like the "newer" Misfits stuff after Glenn Danzig left but I do. In fact, I like the last two Misfits records way more than I like the last two Danzig records. (Danzig seems to have kinda lost his magic) Plus, I loved when they were in WCW for a few weeks hanging out with Vampiro. That was funny stuff. Plus I met Jerry Only and he's a helluva nice guy. Anyone else have any Misfits praise/comments/experiences? Someone must love 'em as much as I do.

07-15-2003, 03:43 PM	#18
Maniax_God Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tulsa Oklahoma Posts: 171	I like their song "Am I Evil". But the Metallica version sounds better, mainly because its newer. Have you all heard the live version with Both of those bands doing the song. Its cool... __________________ Im not Sorry.... Its Human Nature.... -:: http://www.tmntonline.com ::-

07-14-2003, 05:09 AM	#2
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Hell yeah! I like all of their music, new and old. You met Jerry Only? What was he like?

07-14-2003, 06:25 AM	#3
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Ah, gather 'round, my son, and I shall tell you a tale. A tale that began this past December at the famed Birch Hill Nightclub in New Jersey, home of the Misfits... Was quite cold out, people standing on line around the building for hours waiting to get in. The place was packed tight, and I was right in front of the stage. When the latest version of The Misfits (Jerry, Marky Ramone, and Dez Cadena from Black Flag) came out, the place went nuts. They played tons of older stuff, Danzig-era, and a few off of American Psycho, and a lot of old Ramones songs. They also played their cover of "Day the Earth Caught Fire", a song by Japanese horror-rock band Balzac, and finished with a Christmas song that I missed the name of but I think it'llbe on their new album which comes out at the end of July. At one point during the show I turned to the guy next to me and was like "If I shook Jerry's hand, I swear that'd be so awesome". Well, at the end of the show, Jerry came off the stage and jumped up on the metal guardrail, stood there in the "Jesus pose", then reached out and grabbed MY hand first out of all the people clawing at him. Then he stepped down, took out a Sharpie and just started signing aurographs for everyone. EVERYONE. Every person there who wanted an autograph, or a photo, got one. At one point early on people got kinda pushy, as people often do, and Jerry's like "Hey, relax, you guys are my home crowd, I aint leavin' til you're all taken care of." He even let me and Mary hang out with him and talk to him while he signed for people. He explained the Devilock hairstyle ("Lotta hairspray, man, lotta hairspray"), how often he works out ("Every day, if I can help it." You don't realize it until you stand next to him how HUGE Jerry Only is), and we even talked about wrestling a bit. He said they had fun in WCW but that he hasn't been following it lately, and that he and Vampiro don't get along anymore. I had to ask him why MicHale Graves isn't in the band anymore, and surprisingly he was very open about it. "Mike's a good kid, he's a great singer, but he has a lot of growing up to do, and he needs to do it on his time, not mine. I can't be postponing the start of a tour because my singer didn't bother showing up opening night. It's my band, it's my way or no way." I can understand that. He did speak very highly of Mike in general, though. I also asked him who the "permanent singer" would be, and he did say something very interesting: "Me or Glenn, nobody else. If Glenn wants to do it, the door's open. I don't think so, but never say never, you know?" Apparently Doyle is taking time out to be with his family, as his wife recently had a baby girl, but he will be back soon supposedly. Dez Cadena was a cool guy as well. Mary yelled out "you're hot!" as he walked by, so Jerry grabbed him and gave him a hug and was like "C'mere cutie." All in all they seemed like they were all in good spirits, like they all got along well and were having fun being The Misfits. I think Marky was sick, he only came out and mingled briefly. Jerry had just gotten over a ten-day bout of strep throat, so it's possible. Mary also kept slapping Jerry's ass. He didn't seem to mind. She just explained she has a thing for hugely-muscled guys in spandex. He had someone take his picture with us and the kid was supposed to mail it to us but he never did. All in all it was a great experience. I became a bigger Misfits fan after meeting them (and I was already a huge fan) just because Jerry is one of the legitimately nicest people I've ever had the pleasure to meet, and he genuinely cares about the fans.

07-14-2003, 07:27 AM	#4
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Good story. I Hope someday that I will get to see them live. I would be surprised if Danzig rejoined the group though; considering his history with Jerry and all. What do you think about the 'Project 1950' CD that's coming out? I'm afraid of what it will sound like.

07-14-2003, 07:50 AM	#5
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah that's the one coming out at the end of this month. You know, I'm honestly more trepidatious based on the fact I'm not familiar with the songs rather than Jerry and Co.'s ability to play them. They're all talented, they ought to do decent versions. I'm one of the people who "got" what GNR was doing with "The Spaghetti Incident?!", and I enjoy that album tremendously, so maybe I'll enjoy this little project as well. I hope so, at any rate. Got any favorite Misfits songs or albums? Do you tend to lean towards Danzig era or the newer stuff?

07-14-2003, 08:03 AM	#6
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	It's hard to say which albums of the old stuff I like the best, seeing how there are several versions of most of the old songs. Of the new stuff; American Psycho is by far the best. Famous Monsters is ok, but I only like a handful of songs off of it though. As for a favorite song, at the moment it's Dust to Dust. My 'favorite' song of theirs' changes every week. How about you?

07-14-2003, 08:34 AM	#7
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I have pretty much similar feelings. I have the box set with the coffin containing the "classic" stuff, but sadly, it lacks "In the Doorway", which is a really good song. "Hybrid Moments" is one of my very favorite classic Misfits songs. Of course there are all the famous songs like "Attitude", "Last Caress" and "Die Die My Darling", but the fact that some really good covers of those songs have been done in recent years exposes how limited their recording equipment was back in 1980, and kind of makes them sound weak. I would love to hear those songs re-recorded. That's one of the things that makes newer Misfits stuff sound as good as it does, the newer recording technology. I bought "Famous Monsters" first but "American Psycho" does have more good songs. "The Haunting" is by far my favorite new Misfits song. I just love that line, "Cut my wrists and watch me bleed"... The demo version of it has different lyrics but is just as good a song. You know Vampiro used "Kong at the Gates" as his theme music for a while? But yeah they have so much good stuff that my favorites rotate rather frequently, there are a few that stand out at the top of my list. You hear "Day the Earth Caught Fire" yet?

07-14-2003, 08:49 AM	#8
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Most people say the best way to listen to the older songs is to buy the LPs and crank up the sound. I have the Collection II LP, and it sounds better then the CD. Of the old songs Hate Breeders, Horror Business, and Skulls are probably my all time favorites. I don't remember Vampiro using Kong at the Gates as his entrance theme, I could have sworn it was Abominable Dr. Phibes that he used. Just downloaded Day the Earth Caught Fire, sounds a lot like the old stuff to me; which is good.

07-14-2003, 09:29 AM	#9
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	He may have jumped back and forth a few times but I have one PPV tape where it was definitely Kong at the Gates. He had a lotta music. I liked "Take It" by ICP, too, after he wasn't with the Misfits anymore. I remember when they debuted against Dr. Death and he almost killed Jerry That angle was so cool, it's a shame it was all a backdrop for the "Oklahoma" gimmick. I woulda liked to see Jerry and Doyle go after the Tag belts. Well hey, Alex Wright and Disco Inferno had 'em. Ever get the "Cuts From the Crypt" CD?

07-14-2003, 09:39 AM	#10
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I couldn't stand the Inane Clown Posse. I also remember when they first appeared on Nitro, Tony Shivonnie acted like a moron when they came out. I don't have the Cuts from the Crypt CD, but I have heard the version of Mars Attacks that is on it. I seriously need to buy me a copy of that CD because I can't find any of those songs online.

07-14-2003, 09:43 AM	#11
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah definitely do, the demos are great, a few have alternate lyrics, and there's some songs like "Bruiser", "10,000,000 Years B.C." and "Fiend Without a Face" that just rock. Plus there's "Monster Mash" I'm not a big ICP fan myself but "Take It" is a good song. I liked Vampiro better with the Misfits by far though.

07-14-2003, 09:50 AM	#12
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Oh, and "Dead Kings Rise", that one is equally awesome.

07-14-2003, 09:53 AM	#13
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I liked Vampiro better when he was with the Misfits too. I read somewhere that the reason the band and Vampiro got on bad terms was because the Misfits logo was used without permission on some WCW toys.

07-14-2003, 10:05 AM	#14
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It's possible. There was also an issue regarding Vampiro skipping matches to go and be on-stage at Misfits shows. Words were exchanged, blame got shifted back and forth... at one point Vampiro posted a really scathing message on his website attacking Jerry Only and saying he dressed as a sheep and had sex with little boys. After that they kind of stopped talking. Vampiro later retracted it and kind of sort of apologized but said he had no desire to hang out with them anymore. I hear a lot of bad things about Vampiro, rumor has it he's kind of a jerk.

07-14-2003, 09:14 PM	#15
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	He sounds like a jerk.

07-15-2003, 08:56 AM	#16
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	I can't believe me a Leo are the only people on this forum that like the Misfits.

07-15-2003, 12:57 PM	#17
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	That's really a shame. It really is. People are so closed-minded. I bet more than half of the people who bought Metallica's "Garage Inc." CD have never even bothered to go find out what the originals sounded like. Personally, I think Metallica does a good job covering Misfits stuff, how about you?

07-15-2003, 07:27 PM	#19
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	The Misfits didn't do Am I Evil, that song was by Diamond Head. I can't remember which Misfits song Metallica covered on Garage Inc, I think it was Last Caress.

07-15-2003, 09:03 PM	#20
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I thought AM I Evil was a danzig song? Or, is it a different one? (I never heard the Metallica cover to be honest)