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Old 10-27-2015, 05:09 PM   #1001
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Maybe it really is just a black thing. Maybe we just have better taste.
Can't lie, I loved watching that bald fool Weintraub get slapped hard. He absolutely has the worst taste in movies, and he reviews them. Human Garbage that kid.

Nice to see someone finally call him out, and on his own damned show!



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Old 11-27-2015, 01:36 PM   #1002
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Preview for the movie is coming this Monday during Gotham.
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Old 11-28-2015, 01:44 PM   #1003
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A prequel junior novel, "Cross Fire" by Michael Kogge, will be released February 16th

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[After saving Metropolis from an alien invasion, Superman is now famous around the world. Meanwhile Gotham City’s own guardian, Batman, would rather fight crime from the shadows. But when the devious Doctor Aesop escapes from Arkham Asylum, the two very different heroes begin investigating the same case and a young boy is caught in the cross fire.

This action-packed junior novel tells an original story about the stars of Batman v Superman(TM): Dawn of Justice. The book also includes a full-color insert with images from the feature film.
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Old 11-30-2015, 08:16 PM   #1005
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I wonder why they put so much focus on a dream sequence.
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:08 PM   #1006
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I wonder why they put so much focus on a dream sequence.
To show why Batman believes the world is safer with Superman not part of it and should be destroyed.

Which is pretty much the whole point of the focus of the movie.
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:59 PM   #1007
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The movie has plenty of stuff going on already to waste time on a long dream sequence.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:02 PM   #1008
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I tend to forget, is Aquaman in this movie too? Or is it just Supes/Batman/Wonder Woman?

Last thing I remember was a whole bunch of other superheroes being crammed in.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:07 PM   #1009
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I think all of the JL is there with Flash/Aquaman/Cyborg but they'll only be making very brief cameos. I think I read Cyborg has the biggest role and he only appears as a human and his name is mentioned and that's it. Wonder Woman also technically only has a guest appearance and not a big role in the movie.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:07 PM   #1010
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I tend to forget, is Aquaman in this movie too? Or is it just Supes/Batman/Wonder Woman?

Last thing I remember was a whole bunch of other superheroes being crammed in.
Aquaman is in two scenes according to Momba.
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Scene 1. Aqyaman us a group of heroes gathered by Lex Luthor. Scene 2 epilogue shoes him joining the Justice League.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:40 PM   #1011
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Leave it to CyberCubed to force me to break a promise. I said I wasn't coming back in here ever again but I'm forced to respond to your insipid question.

Spoiler:
Yes, Aquaman is in it, as are Flash and Cyborg, but they all have very small cameos. Wonder Woman's role is smaller than either Superman or Batman, but still vital. She has fewer scenes but every scene she's in is super-important.

Based on what's been leaked so far...

- Aquaman gets ambushed by soldiers near a LexCorp oil rig and taken prisoner by Project Cadmus. LexCorp and Cadmus have several meta-humans held prisoner as part of a program based on manipulating and possibly replicating meta-human genes and DNA. The meta-human disappearances are what brings Wonder Woman into the story, she's investigating the disappearances and has tracked them back to Luthor. Wonder Woman sets him free mid-way through the movie, but he abandons her to head back to the ocean. He has a change of heart at the very end and pulls a Han Solo, coming to the aid of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman during the final battle scene. He has he biggest role of all the cameos, but still very much a bit part.

- Victor Stone/Cyborg's father is one of the scientists working for LexCorp/Cadmus. When the Cadmus facility is destroyed during the final fight scene, Victor is near-fatally wounded while trying to rescue innocent people. By the end of the movie, Vic is transferred into the C.Y.B.O.R.G. Program. He's said to have very few scenes, all very brief. For the sake of this movie, he only exists as collateral damage. There's even a very small possibility that his scenes might be cut for time and left for the DVD, since WB recently reversed course on the Cyborg solo movie in favor of doing Teen Titans. Put it this way: I wouldn't worry about Cyborg eating up any precious minutes of screen time.

- The Flash only appears as a red blur on a monitor screen near the very end of the movie, one of the very last things shown before the end credits, as a teaser for Justice League. He never makes a full appearance or is even referred to by name. Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are discussing JLA recruitment, and Batman takes notice that there are reports of a red blur stopping bank robbers near Central City. The audience is just supposed to know it's him.


And that's about it. Again, "rumors", but all from the same source that accurately predicted every single bit of trailer footage we've seen so far about 6 months in advance, so I'm inclined to believe everything up there is legit until I see something that contradicts the script summary I have saved on my hard drive.

So yeah, it's not going to be crammed. It'll be a big, long movie, probably 2.5-3 hours for sure, but it's mostly about Clark, Bruce, and Diana each going after Lex for their own individual reasons, and the way he manipulates events to pit them against each other, briefly, before they team up to take him down. I didn't put that part in Spoilers because I feel like it's pretty obvious to everyone by now that that's the plot.

So the movie has 4 "main characters" and a bunch of bit players. Gee, it's like they haven't already been doing comic book movies using that exact template for 20 years now.
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Spiffy teaser. The "Knightmare" scene is supposed to also be very short, just to really put over how Batman sees Superman early on and why he sees him as dangerous enough to go after. Probably won't take up much more screen time than Tony's "revelations"/"visions" during Age of Ultron, if any. I mean I get it, to really sell the "Why" you have to get into Batman's headspace. Makes sense.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:51 PM   #1012
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...is Superman's surly pouty stink face supposed to be funny?

Because it is freakin' hilarious.

It's like Batman just told Superman he can't go hang out with the Teen Titans until he's done cleaning up his Metropolis.
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Old 11-30-2015, 11:54 PM   #1013
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Interesting that 2016 will be the year of superheroes fighting each other. Captain America and Iron Man are going to try to beat each other up.
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Old 12-01-2015, 01:28 AM   #1014
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Leave it to CyberCubed to force me to break a promise. I said I wasn't coming back in here ever again but I'm forced to respond to your insipid question.
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:37 AM   #1015
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Just want to say, Batman looks like he was pulled out of a comic. I'm stoked. Well I have been for a long time anyway.
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Just want to say, Batman looks like he was pulled out of a comic. I'm stoked. Well I have been for a long time anyway.
Its definitely the best live-action Batman costume we've ever had.

Its funny, to most people Superman is the afterthought of this film, everyone just wants to see Batman. And to think this was originally "Man of Steel 2," and it basically turned into "I love Batman!" with Superman as some guy for Batman to fight.
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Its definitely the best live-action Batman costume we've ever had.

Its funny, to most people Superman is the afterthought of this film, everyone just wants to see Batman. And to think this was originally "Man of Steel 2," and it basically turned into "I love Batman!" with Superman as some guy for Batman to fight.
Not to me pal, not to me.
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You're gonna be both surprised and disappointed at how little of the plot revolves around Batman, Cubed. I keep saying it but I get the feeling it's not sinking in for some reason.

The marketing is Batman-centric because Batman is the unfamiliar element. He's not the main character of the movie. He's the Secondary Protagonist, key word being "Secondary". Almost everything he ends up doing in the entire film is reactionary. He does have moments where he sets things in motion plot-wise but even those moments are spurred on by something other people do, or things he's afraid they're going to do.

It's still "Superman Guest-Starring Batman". It's not the other way around. That's never been the case at all and hasn't changed. He gets his name on top because he sells, and that's fine. It's not his movie. He has a big part in it. But it's not his movie. I'm not sure how much more plain I can make it. I don't even want to talk about this movie anymore most of the time, despite being excited for it, but I just can't let that kind of thing go without correcting it. Stop torturing me.
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Old 12-02-2015, 01:51 AM   #1019
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I'm just glad we don't have to listen to Bale's Batman voice in this movie.
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:23 AM   #1020
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I want a good Superman movie, but Man of Steel was fairly meh for me. Also naturally with Batman being my favorite superhero, and this being his debut in this new movie universe, its generally far more exciting.

Its a bit of a shame to be honest. I really would love a good new set of Superman movies, but I guess its too late now with the whole Justice League thing they have planned next.
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