Gotham - Page 18

*MikeandRaph87* · 11-30-2015, 07:42 PM

The show won't be back until Leap Day? That is a long wait. I thought mid January, about six weeks.

Springing team of S.W.AT. members assaulting Galavan's stronghold, Jim Gordon, Harvey Bullock, Alfred Pennyworth, The Penguin, The Riddler, Catwoman, and Lucius Fox. That is a magnificent seven!

It looks like Galavan despite being murdered execution style is not so dead. Was that a human shell to support the idea of a clone body? People have been suggesting he is Ra's, but I never bought it. I painted him as Rupert Thorne knockoff. Though it did remind me of Agent Bishop's longevity.

Mr. Freeze in the very last seconds, but he is already Freeze. Most Bruce's rogues are going to be twice his age when really only Hugo Strange (60ish) and R'as (650ish) are not within a five year range of his age.

*Raph's Girl* · 12-01-2015, 12:00 AM

Spoiler:

*Slade* · 12-02-2015, 07:41 AM

I've been enjoying this show a lot more this season than last.

Freaking Mr. Freeze man. I didn't expect to see him already.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-02-2015, 09:21 PM

The Riddler and The Penguin are a buddy comedy just beginning within the show. I dont like what made Eddie snap though. Why not have Miss Kringle use Eddie for something and not really love him and that make him snap? Its interesting seeing them join the raid to save their future shared enemy. Catwoman not so much, but those two it was.

I am not what to make of Galavan. He is dead, but we have not seen the last of him. Will something like what is runored for Zod in Dawn of Justice happen with Galavan or something like Agent ishop's situation? Not a fan and did notvsee the point in Fish Mooney, but we saw her incubating in a tube as one of Hugo Strange's experiments. What is the purpose of using killed or damaged beyond repair bad guys?

Not sure what to make of this pairing with Leslie Tompkins. She is Alferd's girlfriend and Bruce's mother figure. Will Barbara get a different mom? She does have an older brother, but comic continuity either ignores him or plays havoc with him and this show despite having to meet to a certain point it is doing its own thing.

I am surprised the Galavan angle wrapped. I expected him to play corrupt politician for awhile and get exposed and jailed in the second season finale.

Mr. Freeze is involved too early, but Freeze has such a great story it is just limited and delicate as I actually want the guy to have a happy ending. Love the character.

*Storm Eagle* · 12-03-2015, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Not sure what to make of this pairing with Leslie Tompkins. She is Alferd's girlfriend...

I'm sure you meant to say Gordon.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-03-2015, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

I'm sure you meant to say Gordon.

No, in the comics Leslie is older and paired with Alfred's and acts as a mother figure for Bruce. The hook up with Gordon is exclusive to the show.

*Storm Eagle* · 12-04-2015, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

No, in the comics Leslie is older and paired with Alfred's and acts as a mother figure for Bruce. The hook up with Gordon is exclusive to the show.

I only know about Leslie from Batman: The Animated Series, and her relation to Bruce Wayne there. I still didn't think you were talking about anything else but Gotham though.

*sdp* · 01-26-2016, 08:31 PM

I started watching Gotham, I've heard that it's terrible and that it gets better but I'm going to give it a shot. I am definitely not a fan of young catwoman or young ivy, I mean if they're just cameos it'll be fine but if they end up being involved in the show which I think they will I'm not sure how I'll feel about it. I really didn't need to see Waynes origin again but I guess it was cool to see more of it. Overall the first two episodes were fine and I like the characters but we'll see.

Edit: Well I finished watching Gotham and I had a blast, it was definitely more fun than the other Batman show Arrow and maybe more fun than Flash but they're very different shows so it's hard to judge. Yeah it sucks to see young Ivy all the time and Selina as well but it's ok. They had a little too much Bruce but I was surprised by how OK I was with it. I love Harvey great character as Oswald, Maroni and Falcone. Nygma was great to see as well. I do think the timeline will get messy since the more seasons this show goes on the more likely we'll see every rouge while Bruce is young unless there is some time skip. The season finale was definitely one of the weakest though didn't like evil Barbara. I don't see why so many people are so upset over this show though, yeah its changing some of the mythos but so has every other live action interpretation of Batman including the fan favorite Nolan movies so why get so upset over some small changes here and there?

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-16-2016, 02:45 PM

Theo Galavan may have been murdered by Jim Gordon and The Penguin, but apparently he is the (undead?) Azrael.
http://comicbook.com/2016/02/16/goth...rael-revealed/

*Slade* · 02-16-2016, 03:37 PM

I'm not a fan of that..

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-16-2016, 03:47 PM

I don't watch this show anymore and I despise most of it, but I gotta give them props: that's a pretty great Azrael costume! (Let me know if it comes with an actual flaming sword...)

*Wesley* · 02-17-2016, 04:47 PM

I've only seen most episodes up to episode 6 of season 2 (Channel 5 aired the sixth episode last Monday). RTE Two hasn't aired any of season 2 yet. I think this season is much better than the first one so far, though I find it to be a bit cheesy at times, though season one had that problem as well. It's got a good mix of drama, action and comic relief. Penguin and Harvey are my favourite characters.

*Slade* · 02-17-2016, 06:59 PM

Season 2 was a lot better than season one.
I wish this show would hurry up though.

On a side note, I'm wondering how long this can actually last. I mean at some point, Bruce has to grow up and he had to become Batman. If WB is doing movies, he's not going to be on a tv show..

*sdp* · 02-17-2016, 08:52 PM

The show will go on as long as it has ratings and it will never be a Batman show so the longer it goes for the more like Smallville it'll be where all these Batman events happen before Bruce actually becomes Batman just like it happened before.

*Slade* · 02-17-2016, 11:36 PM

I don't think Gotham will be able to accomplish what Smallville did.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-18-2016, 04:59 AM

As corny as season one was at times, season two has really raised the bar for the series. The rivalry between Cat and Silver, Oswald's friendship with Edward, even Bruce stepping up- the seeds are all there.c

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-29-2016, 07:54 PM

Was that The Joker in Arkham saying "hear no evil, see no evil" repeatedly.

TLP · 03-01-2016, 10:23 AM

This show is graphic as freaking hell. It's getting close to the levels of gore that American Horror Story reached.

But Gotham has been fantastic this season.

*Autbot_Benz* · 03-01-2016, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Was that The Joker in Arkham saying "hear no evil, see no evil" repeatedly.

no that wasn't Joker he was a random inmate

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-01-2016, 07:50 PM

No, it wasn't Joker. "Joker" was the kid from the circus, Jerome, who was stabbed by Galavan. Interestingly, the circus he was part of had Dick's parents in it- before they were even married. There's a lot of connections in this show, and somehow they all lead back to Bruce and Jim.

11-30-2015, 07:42 PM	#341
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	The show won't be back until Leap Day? That is a long wait. I thought mid January, about six weeks. Springing team of S.W.AT. members assaulting Galavan's stronghold, Jim Gordon, Harvey Bullock, Alfred Pennyworth, The Penguin, The Riddler, Catwoman, and Lucius Fox. That is a magnificent seven! It looks like Galavan despite being murdered execution style is not so dead. Was that a human shell to support the idea of a clone body? People have been suggesting he is Ra's, but I never bought it. I painted him as Rupert Thorne knockoff. Though it did remind me of Agent Bishop's longevity. Mr. Freeze in the very last seconds, but he is already Freeze. Most Bruce's rogues are going to be twice his age when really only Hugo Strange (60ish) and R'as (650ish) are not within a five year range of his age. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon! Last edited by MikeandRaph87; 11-30-2015 at 08:04 PM.

12-01-2015, 12:00 AM	#342
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Spoiler: Well I guess the producers changed their minds and decided to put the pregnancy in the storyline after all! Here comes Lil Barbara! __________________

12-02-2015, 07:41 AM	#343
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	I've been enjoying this show a lot more this season than last. Freaking Mr. Freeze man. I didn't expect to see him already. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

12-02-2015, 09:21 PM	#344
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	The Riddler and The Penguin are a buddy comedy just beginning within the show. I dont like what made Eddie snap though. Why not have Miss Kringle use Eddie for something and not really love him and that make him snap? Its interesting seeing them join the raid to save their future shared enemy. Catwoman not so much, but those two it was. I am not what to make of Galavan. He is dead, but we have not seen the last of him. Will something like what is runored for Zod in Dawn of Justice happen with Galavan or something like Agent ishop's situation? Not a fan and did notvsee the point in Fish Mooney, but we saw her incubating in a tube as one of Hugo Strange's experiments. What is the purpose of using killed or damaged beyond repair bad guys? Not sure what to make of this pairing with Leslie Tompkins. She is Alferd's girlfriend and Bruce's mother figure. Will Barbara get a different mom? She does have an older brother, but comic continuity either ignores him or plays havoc with him and this show despite having to meet to a certain point it is doing its own thing. I am surprised the Galavan angle wrapped. I expected him to play corrupt politician for awhile and get exposed and jailed in the second season finale. Mr. Freeze is involved too early, but Freeze has such a great story it is just limited and delicate as I actually want the guy to have a happy ending. Love the character. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

01-26-2016, 08:31 PM	#348
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	I started watching Gotham, I've heard that it's terrible and that it gets better but I'm going to give it a shot. I am definitely not a fan of young catwoman or young ivy, I mean if they're just cameos it'll be fine but if they end up being involved in the show which I think they will I'm not sure how I'll feel about it. I really didn't need to see Waynes origin again but I guess it was cool to see more of it. Overall the first two episodes were fine and I like the characters but we'll see. Edit: Well I finished watching Gotham and I had a blast, it was definitely more fun than the other Batman show Arrow and maybe more fun than Flash but they're very different shows so it's hard to judge. Yeah it sucks to see young Ivy all the time and Selina as well but it's ok. They had a little too much Bruce but I was surprised by how OK I was with it. I love Harvey great character as Oswald, Maroni and Falcone. Nygma was great to see as well. I do think the timeline will get messy since the more seasons this show goes on the more likely we'll see every rouge while Bruce is young unless there is some time skip. The season finale was definitely one of the weakest though didn't like evil Barbara. I don't see why so many people are so upset over this show though, yeah its changing some of the mythos but so has every other live action interpretation of Batman including the fan favorite Nolan movies so why get so upset over some small changes here and there? __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server Last edited by sdp; 02-01-2016 at 12:09 PM.

02-16-2016, 02:45 PM	#349
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Theo Galavan may have been murdered by Jim Gordon and The Penguin, but apparently he is the (undead?) Azrael. http://comicbook.com/2016/02/16/goth...rael-revealed/ __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

02-16-2016, 03:37 PM	#350
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	I'm not a fan of that.. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

02-16-2016, 03:47 PM	#351
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I don't watch this show anymore and I despise most of it, but I gotta give them props: that's a pretty great Azrael costume! (Let me know if it comes with an actual flaming sword...) __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-17-2016, 04:47 PM	#352
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	I've only seen most episodes up to episode 6 of season 2 (Channel 5 aired the sixth episode last Monday). RTE Two hasn't aired any of season 2 yet. I think this season is much better than the first one so far, though I find it to be a bit cheesy at times, though season one had that problem as well. It's got a good mix of drama, action and comic relief. Penguin and Harvey are my favourite characters. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

02-17-2016, 06:59 PM	#353
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	Season 2 was a lot better than season one. I wish this show would hurry up though. On a side note, I'm wondering how long this can actually last. I mean at some point, Bruce has to grow up and he had to become Batman. If WB is doing movies, he's not going to be on a tv show.. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

02-17-2016, 08:52 PM	#354
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	The show will go on as long as it has ratings and it will never be a Batman show so the longer it goes for the more like Smallville it'll be where all these Batman events happen before Bruce actually becomes Batman just like it happened before. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

02-17-2016, 11:36 PM	#355
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	I don't think Gotham will be able to accomplish what Smallville did. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

02-18-2016, 04:59 AM	#356
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	As corny as season one was at times, season two has really raised the bar for the series. The rivalry between Cat and Silver, Oswald's friendship with Edward, even Bruce stepping up- the seeds are all there.c __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

02-29-2016, 07:54 PM	#357
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Was that The Joker in Arkham saying "hear no evil, see no evil" repeatedly. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

03-01-2016, 10:23 AM	#358
TLP Hench Mutant Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 263	This show is graphic as freaking hell. It's getting close to the levels of gore that American Horror Story reached. But Gotham has been fantastic this season. __________________ TMNT (2003) 4Kids DVD Count: ALL OF THEM (plus UNCUT Turtles Forever from Region 2)

03-01-2016, 07:50 PM	#360
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	No, it wasn't Joker. "Joker" was the kid from the circus, Jerome, who was stabbed by Galavan. Interestingly, the circus he was part of had Dick's parents in it- before they were even married. There's a lot of connections in this show, and somehow they all lead back to Bruce and Jim. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end