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Old 12-04-2015, 12:40 AM   #1101
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I wonder if they'll "kill" Supes...
Cavill is listed in the cast for the Justice League 1 & 2.

same with Affleck and Gadot.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:44 AM   #1102
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Lex is busy elsewhere during the Trinity Vs. Doomsday fight. He wants to be nowhere near the scene by the time the dust clears.
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When it looks like the entire scenario is getting out of hand with a catastrophic amount of damage, Senator Cale tries to shut Doomsday down, as he's still being remote-controlled by LexCorp. Luthor murders her and makes it look like a suicide. He then stages everything to look like Senator Cale was the mastermind of everything, and makes his escape.

He's not making any Cyborg Armor pit stops to join the actual fray. He just murdered a United States Senator, and if he's caught, he's a goner. After Doomsday is unleashed, Lex's entire agenda is saving his own ass and getting the f*ck out of Dodge. Not getting back within arms' reach of the only people who can conclusively prove that he was behind everything. That is an All-Risk/No-Reward Scenario, and Lex Luthor isn't that stupid. Plus, it's not mentioned anywhere at all in the script summary or even hinted at. In the script, Bruce, Diana, and Clark know it's Lex behind everything. Only they and Cale can prove it, that's why he frames and kills Cale. Nobody in the world is going to look twice at Lex.

But he's also not going to be pulling any "Grandstanding" would-be hero moves to publicly save face or be hailed a "Hero". Again, he saves his own ass and gets away. His entire plot hinges on nobody even being able to prove he was involved, period, except peripherally. The rub of the story is, Lex Luthor ends the movie in the same place Superman is at the beginning of it: Some people think he's humanity's savior, other people think he's responsible for getting a lot of people killed. And unlike Superman, it really IS all Lex's fault. Sweet, delicious irony. That's some crispy storytelling right there.

He gets away with everything, as usual. Almost. He loses all his government military contracts, because LexCorp manufactured Doomsday and the Kryptonite weapons. So he's penalized, but not imprisoned. You're right about that. He's still free, he's still rich, he's still powerful, but he's bald and he hates Superman.

Now, they could very well still do President Lex one day soon. There's nothing in the script that says he's vilified or hated by the public at large by the end, but that his "Perfect" facade is cracked and he's no longer universally loved. He's a popular, but divisive and controversial figure, as he usually is in the comics. They can still run all the way to the end zone and do President Lex if they wanted to. I honestly think they will eventually.

I have no idea why Lex is bald. That's never mentioned in the leak.


As far as whether Doomsday "kills" Superman, or if it's teased to look that way...
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It's more like once Doomsday's link to the LexCorp satellites is broken, and Doomsday goes into FULL Rampage Mode with nothing to hold him back, nothing the Trinity tries can stop him or even slow him down. There's massive destruction and Batman, Wonder Woman, and finally Aquaman are doing everything they can but it's not enough. Superman realizes that if he doesn't do something drastic, right now, it's the end of the world, for real. He knows that no place on Earth is safe, and that he can't risk Doomsday ever coming back, so he takes Doomsday on one-on-one and, finally getting the upper hand, flies him into space and drives him through the heart of the sun.

The entire world assumes that Superman sacrificed himself to stop Doomsday... but after a few tense moments, Superman is shown to have survived when he returns to Earth, and at last the entire world is united behind him and the other heroes.

So Superman lives, but in showing how he was WILLING to die to save Earth, the question the movie opens with, "Is Superman a Hero or a Menace", is answered once and for all as the world celebrates his victory.


It's a good yarn. It's a good way to tell the story.

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Old 12-04-2015, 01:01 AM   #1103
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just a toy...still

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Old 12-04-2015, 01:06 AM   #1104
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Superman isn't dying. This is movie #2.

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What? We already know he's in it. Already public information. The rumors are about the other. I think it was confirmed Cyborg will make his debut here but I can't remember now. There was even conflicting rumors about Green Lantern.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:20 AM   #1105
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What? We already know he's in it. Already public information. The rumors are about the other. I think it was confirmed Cyborg will make his debut here but I can't remember now. There was even conflicting rumors about Green Lantern.
Easy sparky! Jesus.
The costume and colors etc...we haven't had a good look at the overall costume/colors. This is the first "toy" in color, not snydervision.

Dudes hair is also blonde. Rumored up until now.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:25 AM   #1106
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That's neat if at least one of Aquaman's outfits looks like that rather than the black and silver we saw in the promotional art. I know he shows up in at least three scenes
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When he's captured by LexCorp/Cadmus, when Wonder Woman sets him free and he escapes back to (presumably) Atlantis, and when he comes back at the very end to help fight Doomsday
but I have no idea what he's wearing in any of them or what color it is.

Victor Stone is in the movie.
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He's almost killed saving civilians from Doomsday. I don't know if he's actually "rebuilt" as Cyborg by the end but I don't think so. They mention he has been transferred into the "C.Y.B.O.R.G. Program" to be rebuilt but I'm pretty sure he's still mostly not much more than head and stomach by the end credits.

There is no mention at all of Green Lantern in the leak. If they put something in, it's very small, and was put in VERY late in the game. Not impossible, but I think since they're still very much uncertain of how they're going to approach the Green Lantern project, they didn't feel confident enough to put in a teaser for that just yet.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:52 AM   #1107
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Anyone glad the "No humor" policy was bull sheet and there is humor in the trailer?
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:55 AM   #1108
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Anyone glad the "No humor" policy was bull sheet and there is humor in the trailer?
I think people took that way too literally.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:59 AM   #1109
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I think people took that way too literally.
Some did as they said "Oh my god, WB is trying to ape the dark age of comics from the 1990s" and did you thought they were trying to imitate the 90s comics? one of my friends calls that era "a rotting corpse that was killed and buried for a reason as i thought they were gonna move away from that era".


Do you think some comic makers in the 90s took the wrong lessons from Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Heavy Metal magazine etc. as much as some filmmakers take the wrong lesson from Nolan?
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:44 AM   #1110
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Some did as they said "Oh my god, WB is trying to ape the dark age of comics from the 1990s" and did you thought they were trying to imitate the 90s comics? one of my friends calls that era "a rotting corpse that was killed and buried for a reason as i thought they were gonna move away from that era".


Do you think some comic makers in the 90s took the wrong lessons from Frank Miller, Alan Moore, Heavy Metal magazine etc. as much as some filmmakers take the wrong lesson from Nolan?
Stop asking all these questions, goddamn!
It's all you do on this foruù. Ask questions about comic book movies and derailing threads and making threads purely asking about opinions and then continueing posting the same opinions you've been posting forever (this only applies to Marvel really, but you've done the no humor policy **** before and it's not a real thing).
A movie can be serious and still have humour. Marvel Studios' films are way too lighthearted and I'm glad DC isn't going that way with their shared universe. Not every goddamn superhero movie needs to be filled with crappy oneliners.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:17 PM   #1111
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Stop asking all these questions, goddamn!
It's all you do on this foruù. Ask questions about comic book movies and derailing threads and making threads purely asking about opinions and then continueing posting the same opinions you've been posting forever (this only applies to Marvel really, but you've done the no humor policy **** before and it's not a real thing).
A movie can be serious and still have humour. Marvel Studios' films are way too lighthearted and I'm glad DC isn't going that way with their shared universe. Not every goddamn superhero movie needs to be filled with crappy oneliners.
piss off, you young edgy piece of ****.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:20 PM   #1112
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You do realize you just proved you're just some awful troll by PM'ing me about X-Men, right?
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:22 PM   #1113
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You do realize you just proved you're just some awful troll by PM'ing me about X-Men, right?
Im sure your happy WB and Fox they are allowed to smoke where Marvel has banned smoking.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:26 PM   #1114
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No-one can be this delusional. Right?
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:29 PM   #1115
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I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but how do you guys feel about the "Batman voice" in this film, which we've heard a bit of in the trailers?

Many people disliked Bale's, "Batman voice" in the previous trilogy, so how do you feel about this one?
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:33 PM   #1116
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No-one can be this delusional. Right?
Your the delusional one, young edgy guy. Im sure you might mature one day and realize that humor is part of life and grown out of your emo days.
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:37 PM   #1117
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I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but how do you guys feel about the "Batman voice" in this film, which we've heard a bit of in the trailers?

Many people disliked Bale's, "Batman voice" in the previous trilogy, so how do you feel about this one?
Affleck's Bat-Voice is LEAGUES better than Bale's.

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Your the delusional one, young edgy guy. Im sure you might mature one day and realize that humor is part of life and grown out of your emo days.
"You're"
"I'm"
Humor doesn't grow out of one's emo days.
I mean, if you're going to toss around the ol' Maturity Canard, it's best to actually write like you're a grown up.
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Your the delusional one, young edgy guy. Im sure you might mature one day and realize that humor is part of life and grown out of your emo days.
Not every movie needs to be lighthearted and filled with 13 year-old humour. Nothing wrong with a serious movie.
(Why do I even bother?)
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Old 12-04-2015, 12:39 PM   #1119
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Not every movie needs to be lighthearted and filled with 13 year-old humour. Nothing wrong with a serious movie.
(Why do I even bother?)
And im sure you think DC and Fox is for adults.

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I think I'm going to throw myself off a building if I don't get a hug now.
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