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My observation:
Batfleck is definitely the saddest Batman to date. Look at this toy! The damned toy is pouting! What's the deal?   Why so glum chum? and here's a better look at Aquamoma 
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I don't hate the costume, but... that has some seriously random seams/piping going on. To the point where it looks kind of silly. What's the purpose of diagonal seams across his legs?? I get a kinda patchwork/patched-up look for a lot of characters, but Batman is one of the few superheroes who has no excuse not to have well made/designed gear. Quote:
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12-05-2015, 12:11 PM
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His parents are DEAD!
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12-05-2015, 06:59 PM
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12-05-2015, 07:03 PM
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It would be amazing if Batman ever had to defend himself in front of a federal judge.
 That's literally his only justification for his behavior in the first place. I love comic books, nothing makes any f*cking sense.
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12-05-2015, 07:06 PM
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Batman should do what he's doing. The world would be a better place if every city in the world had their own Batman who foils crime, and potentially stops terrorist attacks.
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12-05-2015, 07:12 PM
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I'll do it. I have exactly as much authority to do it as he does.
The Batman Paradox: The circular logic that justifies a vigilante crime-fighter "stopping terrorists" through his own terrorist actions. It's beautiful.To be clear, the only thing I love more than Batman (besides Superman), is tearing huge holes in the entire logic of Batman. When you break it down, the eeeeentiiiiiiire thing that "elevates" him over the people he beats up isn't even that he's "Good" and they're "Evil", or they're crazy and he's not... it's all entirely because he's rich! That's all that makes him "The Good Guy" of the story. Otherwise he's as goofy and screwed-up as they are. 
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12-05-2015, 07:15 PM
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The difference is Batman does not kill, nor does he cause crime. He is reactionary, he doesn't do things first.
Filthy criminals with the intent to murder and steal deserve to have their faces smashed into the pavement and beaten into a bloody pulp. It should teach them a lesson to never do what they're doing again. If this was the real world those criminals also wouldn't heal so fast and get out of jail time and time again like in the DC universe. Batman is a protector, a guardian. |
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12-05-2015, 07:27 PM
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He is by intent, sure, but for one thing, Batman absolutely causes crime, and lots of it. For one thing, 99% of his villains were just "normal" criminals until he somehow inadvertantly turned them into disfigured and/or gimmicky lunatics who will stop at nothing to take their revenge on Batman specifically and society in general. And secondly, Batman "causes crime" in a more direct way by way of literally everything he does being completely illegal.
Were it not for the convenient plot device of a police commissioner who looks the other way and implicitly condones and assists his actions, someone like Batman would be in Blackgate with the rest of them, for a million different reasons.Beyond that, while "officially" Batman never kills people, he's occasionally let people he could have saved die, which isn't much different just because they were "bad guys", and he's had to be talked down from killing people many times, by everyone from Superman to Robin to Nightwing to Commissioner Gordon and I'm probably missing a few. He's not particularly likely to kill anyone, and has been outspokenly against it, but it's also never been solidified that he never, ever would. They've also had him explain, in-story, that if he ever let himself "go there", he'd probably just start killing all the bad guys. Way to set an example, Bruce. "I don't kill people... not because I have a huge problem with it, but because I'm literally Patrick Bateman under this mask. I just keep a super-tight lid on it." That's f*cking reassuring, Batman.
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12-05-2015, 07:47 PM
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12-05-2015, 09:27 PM
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Batman IS a Terrorist. It's pretty simple. Both he and Superman could be seen as fascists, but my head cannon keeps me from thinking of Superman in those terms, Batman not so much. He is almost the definition of terrorism.
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12-05-2015, 09:46 PM
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I guess the distinction between the two becomes, Superman, while powerful enough to do whatever he wants still follows his own self-imposed set of limitations, while Batman feels his own will is absolute, on account of "I know better than everyone" and that he's answerable to nobody.
Superman's eternal answer when he's asked why he doesn't fix "The Big Problems" has always been, "I don't have that right, I'm not God. I'm here to help, not fix every single thing." Batman, on the other hand, is all about, "I can do whatever I want, because I'm Batman." Think about it: Guy builds a giant satellite that can spy on anyone on Earth from space and turns people into super-powered killer robots, that eventually run amok and cause a huge global disaster. Someone like Luthor does that, they're an unspeakable villain and they're locked up forever, or kicked off of Earth to some prison planet a'la "Salvation Run". Batman does it? "I HAD REASONS, DAMMIT! I'M THE GODDAMN BATMAN!" He even gets to be in the JLA again, like, immediately! "It's okay, Batman... your stupid spy satellite turned into f*cking Skynet and almost wiped out all life on Earth, but your heart was in the right place! You had every good reason for designing an AI program that could create cyborgs to murder all of your friends and anyone else in a hundred different ways!" He just f*cking stares at everyone really hard and all's forgiven. Whaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!F*ckin' Batman.
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12-05-2015, 09:57 PM
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You guys are gonna make cubed cry if you don't ease off ol' Batman.
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12-05-2015, 09:59 PM
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12-05-2015, 10:29 PM
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Oh, Batman... all this crazy, but do you ever stop to wonder if Thomas and Martha would be proud of you?
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Does Batman go out there and purposely try to kill people? Is he purposely looking to start something? Does Batman EVER want to see innocent people die? Of course not. Batman is a goddamn savior. Its honestly offensive to say Batman is a terrorist, especially with what's going on in the real world right now with terrorist attacks still happening to this very day. |
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12-05-2015, 10:53 PM
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A terrorist is a person that does things with the purpose to invoke terror on people... You seem to have a very narrow mindset on the meaning of the word yourself. |
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12-05-2015, 10:54 PM
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Except that he uses the same tactics to SPREAD TERROR among the bad guys, and he explicitly uses his mask and persona to scare the sh*t out of them, for the express purpose of stopping them from doing the exact same thing HE is doing! There is a REASON they fear HIM more than the GCPD. They never know for SURE if or when he's going to snap and actually kill them. Or just, y'know, "fail" to "save" them from some impending demise. Because he just MIGHT do that. And they know it. So, yeah, he's absolutely a terrorist, who just happens to target OTHER terrorists!
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You can be an eco-terrorist without hurting innocent people. You can be a cyber terrorist, attacking corporations. CNN decided to push the message that terrorism is narrowly defined, not me. I'm not the one with a narrow view of the word, lol. Batman IS a terrorist. He imposes his personal brand of ideology on the world. He plays God all the time. If not looking to terrorize people, why the bat costume? It's a symbol yes? strike fear into the hears of criminals, right? What's worse than that, is he's only able to brandish his personal brand of justice, because he's a capitalist of untold wealth. He has all the money ever, but decides to beat up the working class , many of whom might have had better lives if not for the stranglehold Wayne enterprises/Industries has on the economy. So his parents were shot - his parents were the aristocratic elite. If Trump and Melania were gunned down in the street tomorrow, should Ivanka go and seek revenge dressed as a fairy princess in Brownsville? how many people would actually sympathize, given Trumps rhetoric in the media? Personally, I think the guy's having a laugh with the whole presidential thing, just saying everything the base wants to hear, but that's another story). I'm saying if you're that rich, the vast majority won't really be sympathetic to any tragedies you encounter. Think about it. Batman is REALLY the enemy. This is Why I'll always be a Superman/Spider-man fan. They're isn't an abuse of power. It's the "goodness in them, if at times they can be a little selfish, Superman for the most part is benevolence personified. |
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vigilante =/= terrorist
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