Does Japan have any interest in CG animated cartoons?

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 12-06-2015, 01:00 PM

Out of curiosity, does Japan have any interest in CG animation? I'm familiar with films such as Oblivion Island: Haruka and the Magic Mirror and a few others but what about cg anime or cartoons over there. A few have said that they prefer traditional animation over there.

*sdp* · 12-06-2015, 01:13 PM

I've only seen a few japanese CG films and they've been terrible, the thing is the anime style doesn't fit too well in a hyper realistic setting. It's too cartoony for that, what japan needs to do is instead of showing us how realistic it can make everything leave it cartoony but great looking. Anime style can look good in CG, just take a look at all the cutscenes from PS1/PS2 games, if they went that route it'd work, the problem is they always go for ultra realistic anime style and it clashes. I think the Final Fantasy VII remake looks terrible because of that.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 12-06-2015, 02:15 PM

I mean in terms of cartoons on TV, as in full-CG.

*Sage Ninja* · 12-06-2015, 02:24 PM

I hope not. Japan seems like the only place that bothers with animation that is not plastic looking CGI

*Candy Kappa* · 12-06-2015, 03:06 PM

Well, wanna get technical. CG isn't the same as 3D, majority of 2D animation is done on computers now, and plenty of 2D shows uses 3D models for various tasks, such as background, vehicles and characters. Some are obvious 3D and others are extremely well integrated.

*CyberCubed* · 12-06-2015, 05:29 PM

The ecchi/lolicon market probably isn't big enough on CG for them to make shows in that manner.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-06-2015, 09:27 PM

Again with that schtick?! Cubed, no offense, but not ALL anime caters to that crowd. In fact, I'd put it closer to about 1/3rd of the market. The rest is more action or horror genre oriented. Definitely more realistic and less "cartoony".

*Candy Kappa* · 12-07-2015, 04:15 AM

Cubed's experience with anime comes from websites where you have to click "yes, I am over 18"

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-07-2015, 05:53 AM

Sadly, you're not wrong....

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 12-07-2015, 10:55 AM

For example, how popular is Nick's Ninja Turtles in Japan? How well is it doing over there?

*BabyTurtles* · 12-07-2015, 07:18 PM

All I can think about is Precure...the latest ones have CG attacks (and CG endings)

here's just a show case of most of the precure in CG

TMNT_Guy · 12-07-2015, 09:58 PM

I don’t know for sure, but if I had to guess why there is a lack of interest in CG in Japan, I'd say it’s probably due to the fast passed nature of the anime industry. One thing to remember is anime doesn’t air like cartoons do in the west. Anime is often aired weekly and they don’t have the luxury of reruns like we do, once an episode airs that’s it. I’ve read plenty of articles about how overworked and underpaid people are in the field, a lot of the animation in anime these days is aired incomplete and then “fixed” for the home video release. CG is something that you can’t half do with the intention of fixing it later.

I’m sure there are other reasons too; 2D may be preferred because it’s easier to match the art style of a manga in 2D then 3D.

*snake* · 12-07-2015, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Cubed's experience with anime comes from websites where you have to click "yes, I am over 18"

I'm gonna side with cubed on this one. Almost any anime that comes out is almost always SOL (which isn't a bad genre at all) or some type of ecchi because thats what sells. Just this last season the two most popular shows were Umaru and f*cking Monster Musume. (I watched both, Umaru was funny)

This season has One Punch Man, so its all good.

*CyberCubed* · 12-07-2015, 10:50 PM

Anime was at its best in the 80's and 90's, and a few greats in the very early 2000's. Most anime today is moe stuff, ecchi stuff, borderline hentai, or just inferior versions of past shows.

Peanut · 12-08-2015, 01:15 AM

I'd like to know what you even consider good anime, because the only thing I've ever heard you talk about is Dragonball Z.

12-06-2015, 01:00 PM	#1
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	Does Japan have any interest in CG animated cartoons? Out of curiosity, does Japan have any interest in CG animation? I'm familiar with films such as Oblivion Island: Haruka and the Magic Mirror and a few others but what about cg anime or cartoons over there. A few have said that they prefer traditional animation over there.

12-06-2015, 01:13 PM	#2
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	I've only seen a few japanese CG films and they've been terrible, the thing is the anime style doesn't fit too well in a hyper realistic setting. It's too cartoony for that, what japan needs to do is instead of showing us how realistic it can make everything leave it cartoony but great looking. Anime style can look good in CG, just take a look at all the cutscenes from PS1/PS2 games, if they went that route it'd work, the problem is they always go for ultra realistic anime style and it clashes. I think the Final Fantasy VII remake looks terrible because of that. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

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Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Well, wanna get technical. CG isn't the same as 3D, majority of 2D animation is done on computers now, and plenty of 2D shows uses 3D models for various tasks, such as background, vehicles and characters. Some are obvious 3D and others are extremely well integrated. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

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MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Again with that schtick?! Cubed, no offense, but not ALL anime caters to that crowd. In fact, I'd put it closer to about 1/3rd of the market. The rest is more action or horror genre oriented. Definitely more realistic and less "cartoony". __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-06-2015, 02:15 PM	#3
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	I mean in terms of cartoons on TV, as in full-CG.

12-06-2015, 05:29 PM	#6
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	The ecchi/lolicon market probably isn't big enough on CG for them to make shows in that manner.

12-07-2015, 04:15 AM	#8
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Cubed's experience with anime comes from websites where you have to click "yes, I am over 18" __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

12-07-2015, 05:53 AM	#9
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Sadly, you're not wrong.... __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-07-2015, 10:55 AM	#10
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	For example, how popular is Nick's Ninja Turtles in Japan? How well is it doing over there?

12-07-2015, 07:18 PM	#11
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	All I can think about is Precure...the latest ones have CG attacks (and CG endings) here's just a show case of most of the precure in CG __________________ Last edited by BabyTurtles; 12-07-2015 at 07:23 PM.

12-07-2015, 09:58 PM	#12
TMNT_Guy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Home, PA Posts: 620	I don’t know for sure, but if I had to guess why there is a lack of interest in CG in Japan, I'd say it’s probably due to the fast passed nature of the anime industry. One thing to remember is anime doesn’t air like cartoons do in the west. Anime is often aired weekly and they don’t have the luxury of reruns like we do, once an episode airs that’s it. I’ve read plenty of articles about how overworked and underpaid people are in the field, a lot of the animation in anime these days is aired incomplete and then “fixed” for the home video release. CG is something that you can’t half do with the intention of fixing it later. I’m sure there are other reasons too; 2D may be preferred because it’s easier to match the art style of a manga in 2D then 3D. __________________

12-07-2015, 10:50 PM	#14
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Anime was at its best in the 80's and 90's, and a few greats in the very early 2000's. Most anime today is moe stuff, ecchi stuff, borderline hentai, or just inferior versions of past shows.

12-08-2015, 01:15 AM	#15
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I'd like to know what you even consider good anime, because the only thing I've ever heard you talk about is Dragonball Z.