Xenophobic backlash

[Powder]

Spare yourself the frustration, Ninturtle.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Welp, this thread is getting boring. I hear this argument all the time in my city, as one of the talkshow hosts loves to get into it.

I'll just sit here and wait...

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by Powder

Spare yourself the frustration, Ninturtle.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Welp, this thread is getting boring. I hear this argument all the time in my city, as one of the talkshow hosts loves to get into it.

I'll just sit here and wait...

I'll stop the "debate", this isn't the place for it.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

You mean when she was self medicating her Bi-Polar disorder with drugs and alcohol.

Oh, Lord. Did you know that every time someone tries to defend cocaine as anything but a horrible lifestyle choice, a newborn baby chokes to death on its own vomit and bile? True f***ing story.

I understand that some people have "problems" but as something of an expert on the subject, cocaine addiction is indefensible and people shouldn't make light of or excuse it. It's not excusable.

I'm sincerely glad she's apparently better and I'm sorry for her struggles but how she chose to deal with them was just that, her choice, and she chose poorly. She and her family are lucky she didn't pay a greater price for it.

And just to put it out there in advance: My mother "self-medicated" herself with cocaine and alcohol right into the goddamn grave at age 47, so please know, anyone who wants to imply I merely don't "understand addiction" or the "complexities" of the subject, or that I merely "lack empathy"... please don't, I've been to more funerals than you have and you're not going to "Enlighten" me. I do care about people as people but I'm not going to excuse or defend their awful choices as anything but simply that: awful, selfish choices. There's always another way to deal with life.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Oh, Lord. Did you know that every time someone tries to defend cocaine as anything but a horrible lifestyle choice, a newborn baby chokes to death on its own vomit and bile? True f***ing story.

I understand that some people have "problems" but as something of an expert on the subject, cocaine addiction is indefensible and people shouldn't make light of or excuse it. It's not excusable.

I'm sincerely glad she's apparently better and I'm sorry for her struggles but how she chose to deal with them was just that, her choice, and she chose poorly. She and her family are lucky she didn't pay a greater price for it.

And just to put it out there in advance: My mother "self-medicated" herself with cocaine and alcohol right into the goddamn grave at age 47, so please know, anyone who wants to imply I merely don't "understand addiction" or the "complexities" of the subject, or that I merely "lack empathy"... please don't, I've been to more funerals than you have and you're not going to "Enlighten" me. I do care about people as people but I'm not going to excuse or defend their awful choices as anything but simply that: awful, selfish choices. There's always another way to deal with life.

Mr Mackey says it best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7l8dx-h8M

[plastroncafe]

What I find funny is that your reaction here is my reaction to other depressives.

[Leo656]

Other than weed and alcohol in moderation I'm pretty hard-line on drugs, period. My family has every type of addict to every different degree, from "casual partying" to "self-medicating" to full-blown "worthless junkie". I was born and raised in that environment and I've seen it from every side. I've always been one of the very few who can be considered "sober", despite the fact I've been around it all my whole life and frankly, I've had my own share of problems far beyond what most addicts I know claim "pushed" them into it. So my understanding is vast but my sympathy is in limited supply. Because if I can make good decisions, as "polluted" as I've been by my environment and my life circumstances, so can anyone else.

Yes, life is hard, people have problems, and there are "circumstances". But in the end, people choose how they cope, and you HAVE to be half-stupid to make those kinds of choices knowing full well the consequences.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Dammit, I wanted to be dictator.

Can I at least have Russia?

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Are you in the market for someone to hench in your name?

I definitely need henchpeople. Though I give you fair warning, I do not tolerate failure.



goddamn, this thread sure has taken some twists and turns, huh?

[Candy Kappa]

Hows this for a twist; reading on the history and pronunciation of Arkansas is hella weird. I didn't know some people though it was pronounced straight forward.

[Mayhem]

What, you mean it's not pronounced "Throat Warbler Mangrove"?!

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Powder

Better yet, maybe we'll go extinct. Fingers crossed!

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Yep, racism and prejudice have been part of mankind since like forever and they're not going away anytime soon, if ever. otherwise, why would we still have different nations, languages, cultures, etc despite all the globalization? And why do you think some people view globalization and foreign culture influences as a threat to their own culture?

Commenter 42 likes this as well.

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

goddamn, this thread sure has taken some twists and turns, huh?

I KNOW. It's kinda awesome.
Xenophobic backlash, damning of humanity, cultural exchange, drug problems, world dictators, gender inequality. Am I missing any?
Anyway I saw this on Cracked and it made me think of this thread. Specifically Penny.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Oh, Lord. Did you know that every time someone tries to defend cocaine as anything but a horrible lifestyle choice, a newborn baby chokes to death on its own vomit and bile? True f***ing story.

I understand that some people have "problems" but as something of an expert on the subject, cocaine addiction is indefensible and people shouldn't make light of or excuse it. It's not excusable.

I hear ya, and agree, but I think in Fishers situation it's the bi-polar component that drove the addiction. Having watched someone very close to me succumb to that disease, and having known them before and after, (It happend like clockwork just after her 21st birthday) it's pretty damned heartbreaking. Addictions are nasty, but mental disorders aren't cured by sheer will, it just doesn't work like that.

The US is so far behind the rest of the world with their understanding of mental health issues, it's frightening. Asking a bi-polar patient to not turn manic is a bit like asking someone why they let themselves get the flu, and just get over it.

[plastroncafe]

^^^^

Thank you for better articulating the point I was trying to get across.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

^^^^

Thank you for better articulating the point I was trying to get across.

I'm not much of a teddybear; I can be rough, or so I'm told - but just the thought of who she was, and who she's become...the part that was lost...

She was really special, and one of the toughest people I'd known, creative, relentless, driven, exceptional...

She's done alright since, but the spark, I don't know. I still don't know how to explain the feeling of loss or anger...

Most people suck. She didn't. She didn't bring it on herself, and now she has a daily choice - stay on the meds, meds with a host of side effects like the ones you hear on tv - meds that apparently dull the experience of living to a paste of grey slime; or go full manic, where as an example, she hopped a cab to the nearest precinct and proceeded to explain to the desk cop that she has the proper security clearance to not only meet with the Aliens, but also have their children.

It's different everytime she goes off her meds, and we can laugh about it now...
I just miss that other girl. She really was a rockstar.

[shuriken]

Geez that sounds so terribly sad.
Kinda reminds me of my sister's husband. Diagnosed with Schizophrenia at the age of 22 while he was in the army. He tried getting off his meds a few times. He did get off em for like 2 weeks so that they could had a baby. He was kind of a mess, like suspicious of closets and checking the cabinets kind of mess. And that's just what I saw. It's so bizarre how the mind just f**ks some people like that, especially when they did nothing wrong and sort of need meds to function.

[Commenter 42]

It really is the last frontier for medical science. Not to be that guy, but it's one of the reasons I rail against religiosity so damned hard. People love to give up, or sign off responsibility to a higher power. We love to pass the buck, or look at our shoes when someone's not right in the head. If we were more honest with ourselves, we'd give up on the notion of a soul, and focus on the machine that makes us who we are.

I travel for work a fair bit, and I can honestly say, when it comes to "Phobic" personalities, America wins in spades. We stigmatize everything, we're impossibly racist , and we're down right ignorant of anything outside of the lower 48. It's a culture of fear and fear mongering, the roots of which are pretty clear.

[Leo656]

On the upside, you can buy pizza over the internet and pay for it with a credit card, and find Hot Local Moms Willing To Cheat with the push of a button.

So at least America's moving forward on the "important" stuff.

[Commenter 42]

Is that what makes us the center of the universe? I thought it was The Mc Ribb and Disneyland.

[Powder]

The Mcrib is gross, I really don't get the hype (beyond simpletons falling for the whole limited edition thing).