Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Matt2310

the fact that they released a trailer 6 months ahead of release compared to last year when we got the first official trailer like a month and some change before release kinda shows they are proud of what they have

Well, not exactly -- they released the trailer for BayTurtles 1 in March and the movie came out in August. That's almost four months vs. six months for this one. Six months is pretty standard for movie marketing.

And yeah, they're showing off Bebop and Rocksteady because they know that'll get them some early buzz. I'm not disputing that, and nobody doubted that'd be effective. I'm asking what looks good aside from that, beyond the FW fan-service.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Matt2310

the fact that they released a trailer 6 months ahead of release compared to last year when we got the first official trailer like a month and some change before release kinda shows they are proud of what they have

Just about everybody here who didn't like the last movie thinks this one looks better. I think that's enough to be proud. The last movie was a moderate success. If all they can do is say, this time around, is "Look, guys. Better," then they should freakin' scream it.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Just about everybody here who didn't like the last movie thinks this one looks better. I think that's enough to be proud. The last movie was a moderate success. If all they can do is say, this time around, is "Look, guys. Better," then they should freakin' scream it.

I mean of course thy should, but as someone said, the last one was so bad, it's almost impossible to not improve.

Like, if you get drunk on both Friday and Saturday, but only vomit on Friday, it's the smallest of victories.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I mean of course thy should, but as someone said, the last one was so bad, it's almost impossible to not improve.

Like, if you get drunk on both Friday and Saturday, but only vomit on Friday, it's the smallest of victories.

And I think the last movie was awesome. The reasoning stands either way, so it's whatever. People can call the movie garbage, but if everybody actually felt that way, it would've bombed like Fantastic Four.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

I mean of course thy should, but as someone said, the last one was so bad, it's almost impossible to not improve.

Like, if you get drunk on both Friday and Saturday, but only vomit on Friday, it's the smallest of victories.

Exactly. If expectations/standards are so low that "at least this one doesn't look like a total piece of crap" is something to gloat about, then... things aren't going so well, gang.

Originally Posted by chrisdude

And I think the last movie was awesome. The reasoning stands either way, so it's whatever. People can call the movie garbage, but if everybody actually felt that way, it would've bombed like Fantastic Four.

Fantastic Four bombed because it didn't even look entertaining. Plenty of bad movies make money, because a lot of movie audiences are willing to try out a new blockbuster/franchise movie so long as they don't think it'll bore them. That doesn't mean most people thought it was good. BayTurtles has D-level user/audience ratings at damn near every movie site around.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

And I think the last movie was awesome. The reasoning stands either way, so it's whatever. People can call the movie garbage, but if everybody actually felt that way, it would've bombed like Fantastic Four.

Right because F4 has the same size and scale fanbase and nostalgia factor as Turtles. Everybody grew up with that ultra popular F4 cartoon series and juggernaut toy line.

If you want to draw comparisons, that's not the one...online most people are saying "after the first one, no thanks."

That's the general vibe. I've said, it looks fun, not good, or interesting, or on point, but the vibe is "fun". Could be the trailer edit, and the music. If the first one had this vibe, maybe things would be different. I'd bet if Green was in on the first one, the Turtles would have looked VERY different. Just a hunch...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The lengths these apologizers will go to is incredible. Sickening, yet incredible.

Stay strong, my brothers and sisters. Render not thy hard-earned wages to those who would bastardize that which unites us!

(But watching for free online, YouTube, or what have you to see live-action Bebop and Rocksteady? Go right ahead. Curiosity is allowed to be indulged.)

[chrisdude]

I'm not sure anybody really heard the words I'm saying. My point is that regardless of what you think of the last movie, if this looks better, that's a plus worth advertising. If your response is, "the last movie was like Friday's vomit," I would disagree. And reviews are just a hair above FF, hence the comparison. The same is true for the last Transformers, but there's no doubt it has its fans, and they'll continue to watch.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

The lengths these apologizers will go to is incredible. Sickening, yet incredible.

Stay strong, my brothers and sisters. Render not thy hard-earned wages to those who would bastardize that which unites us!

(But watching for free online, YouTube, or what have you to see live-action Bebop and Rocksteady? Go right ahead. Curiosity is allowed to be indulged.)

Well, technically not "allowed."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

I'm not sure anybody really heard the words I'm saying. My point is that regardless of what you think of the last movie, if this looks better, that's a plus worth advertising. If your response is, "the last movie was like Friday's vomit," I would disagree. And reviews are just a hair above FF, hence the comparison. The same is true for the last Transformers, but there's no doubt it has its fans, and they'll continue to watch.

Here's the thing, mate.

The trailer looks great. I'll admit that. Everyone will at least admit "Better than the first."

But we KNOW who the production team is. We've seen Platinum Dunes not do right by 80's cartoon/comic franchises not once, not twice, but FIVE times already: Transformers 1-4 and TMNT.

As great as the trailer APPEARS, we KNOW that there is a very high chance it is misleading. One trailer is not worthy of our wholehearted support or trust. It's a promise, but that promise may very well be broken.

We WANT it to be a good movie. We WANT Platinum Dunes to finally give a sh!t. But we can't be blinded by our desires; we have to be critical and discerning; we have to be impartial.

So to close, everything the people involved are saying about the sequel sounds great and the trailer looks pretty great. But the movie has not yet won over skeptics, NOR SHOULD IT. Wait for early reviews from people who know TMNT (and what makes a well-written movie).

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Well, technically not "allowed."

Maybe just encouraged?

The difference, again, between Fan4stick and PDMT is ONLY that FW TMNT has a youthful, Gen Y fanbase with disposable income, who went because of nostalgia, not because they made a good movie, and not because it looked good, they went because it was a laugh, Donald Trump for president kind of laugh, the Michael Bay-screwed-with-it-lets-see-how-bad-it-is laugh...

It's like the freakshow. One visit is more than enough.

I'm saying, again, I still hate all the crappy designs from the first, I hate that it still feels like that world, at all.

BUT

I might consider giving in, if by some miracle, Dave Green has spun the straw into gold. there are tiny specks of light in the trailer...it has a good overall fun feel...There's still a lot that could be
very wrong, thats hidden in the other 2 hours we haven't seen.

I want to like things. I do...I don't want to hate...

[Bry]

For real. The trailer is literally a commercial. Its job is to sell you on a product, and that doesn't always mean being honest about what that product is going to be.

If you try a fast-food place five times and every time their food is made from rotten ingredients, should you fall for the next ad telling you their food is fresh and tastes amazing? By all means, you're allowed to try it again, but you should at least be critical and skeptical until you have something solid to judge it on.

We all want a good TMNT movie. And if that's what this turns out to be, then I'll be as happy as anyone else, I assure you. But considering the entire history of this production company and their handling of the property so far, all I ask is, please, let's not let our wishful thinking overtake our critical thinking.

[DarkLightDragon]

^Thank you. I'm not going to let one trailer be an indication things are going to be better. Anyone can try to tell me otherwise, but I'd just immediately point to the Last Airbender's trailers on how to mislead people's hype and put butts in seats to go see it only for them to realize that the scenes were the best parts amidst the boring, wooden dialogue and ******-ass pacing.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Bry

If you try a fast-food place five times and every time their food is made from rotten ingredients, should you fall for the next ad telling you their food is fresh and tastes amazing?

I can't get my head around willfully eating the rotten food. like, basically that's the argument. Arguing that garbage is not garbage makes my head hurt.

[Zak The Neutrino]

Originally Posted by DarkLightDragon

^Thank you. I'm not going to let one trailer be an indication things are going to be better. Anyone can try to tell me otherwise, but I'd just immediately point to the Last Airbender's trailers on how to mislead people's hype and put butts in seats to go see it only for them to realize that the scenes were the best parts amidst the boring, wooden dialogue and ******-ass pacing.

Not to mention that one of the parts in the trailer didn't even end up in the movie.

The trailers for the Transformer movies made those look good too and we all know how well those turned out.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by Bry

For real. The trailer is literally a commercial. Its job is to sell you on a product, and that doesn't always mean being honest about what that product is going to be..

this, this x100

trailers are meant to get you drawn in...they they didnt they wouldnt be around...sad part is now a days many trailers turn out better than the movie

film editors take special classes how how to edit a trailer vs how to edit a movie


i will say though..color me surprised on B&R and is it possible the turtles looks "smaller"


but at the same time i am sad we got full glimpses of B&R right off the bat, was kinda hoping they would force me to go see the movie to see how they turned out

[TigerClaw]

This video talks about the Easter Eggs and stuff from the TMNT 2 trailer.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

"this isnt star wars so who cares"


well said video well said

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[Bry]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i will say though..color me surprised on B&R and is it possible the turtles looks "smaller"

Sorry to disappoint, but they're pretty much the same:



Leonardo and Donatello are in the background but you can tell that they tower over Fox and Amell. Michelangelo seems to be the same height compared to Fox as he was in the first one, and then compare Raph to Mikey. Not much change, if any.

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

but at the same time i am sad we got full glimpses of B&R right off the bat, was kinda hoping they would force me to go see the movie to see how they turned out

Let's be real, Bebop and Rocksteady are easily going to be the highlight of this thing. And I have a feeling we've just seen glimpses of every scene they're in.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Bry

Sorry to disappoint, but they're pretty much the same:

http://s18.postimg.org/rvv27fn4p/giantturtles.jpg

Leonardo and Donatello are in the background but you can tell that they tower over Fox and Amell. Michelangelo seems to be the same height compared to Fox as he was in the first one, and then compare Raph to Mikey. Not much change, if any.




Let's be real, Bebop and Rocksteady are easily going to be the highlight of this thing. And I have a feeling we've just seen glimpses of every scene they're in.

The turtles definitely look slightly smaller imo. Its nothing drastic, but definitely noticeable if paying attention.
But I do agree Rocksteady and Bebop will probably be the height of this movie.