Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I wonder if the scene with the flood, the tank, and the turtles on those tubes, is sequel's equivalent to the snow chase from the first film?

You know the turtles sliding down a mountain of snow? what if this time they a sliding down a river with those tubes, with Rocksteady after them with the tank behind?

It could be some major action scene with the Turtles floating down a river?

I read this and my mind immediately went to the 'barrel/river' scene from the Desolation of Smaug.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

I read this and my mind immediately went to the 'barrel/river' scene from the Desolation of Smaug.

Exactly, but with turtles on those tubes.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

According to the set reports, the new director is a TMNT fan, and his vision of the movie is a different vision then what Jonathan Liebesman had in the 1st.

Liebesman was supposed to be a fan.

I never really thought he was quite the uber fan he portrayed himself as but understood that for the purpose of promoting the movie he really had to say he was but I do believe he had a sincere desire to make a movie fans wanted he was just stymied by the good folks at Platinum Dunes.

You don't have to be a huge fan to make a good TMNT movie. Steve Barron hadn't even hard of it and he made the best one of all. It merely requires that you get and have enough clout to stand up to Bay and co and not just make their vision.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Exactly, but with turtles on those tubes.

They're not actual tubes, they're tires.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Liebesman was supposed to be a fan.

I never really thought he was quite the uber fan he portrayed himself as but understood that for the purpose of promoting the movie he really had to say he was but I do believe he had a sincere desire to make a movie fans wanted he was just stymied by the good folks at Platinum Dunes.

I have no problem believing he was majorly at fault & a dickhead. He did a Howard Stern appearance to promote it & he brushed off all the TMNT talk so he could gush about the (Stern) show. Seemed very blasé about the whole ordeal. "Yeah, you know, it's just a kids movie. Where's (insert show staffer here)?!" that kinda sh*t.

[THGhost]

If only we could get a director(s) like Phil Lord & Christopher Miller. Imagine how awesome that would be.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Liebesman was supposed to be a fan.

I never really thought he was quite the uber fan he portrayed himself as but understood that for the purpose of promoting the movie he really had to say he was but I do believe he had a sincere desire to make a movie fans wanted he was just stymied by the good folks at Platinum Dunes.

You don't have to be a huge fan to make a good TMNT movie. Steve Barron hadn't even hard of it and he made the best one of all. It merely requires that you get and have enough clout to stand up to Bay and co and not just make their vision.

I think liebesmans deal was that his Fandom began and ended with the OT and maybe the original film trilogy. There were way to many things glossed over or just plain left out of that movie for the director to be a "hardcore"fan. When you can't even get the basic concept of ninja treachery that's at the core of the turtles conflict with the Shredder and the foot in your movie that's enough to make me think you stopped paying attention somewhere around 1993

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by THGhost

If only we could get a director(s) like Phil Lord & Christopher Miller. Imagine how awesome that would be.

That would be absolute amazing! So much better than what we got instead.

*Beep* this movie.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That would be absolute amazing! So much better than what we got instead.

*Beep* this movie.

I don't know if they're fans of TMNT, but like Galactus said, you don't have to be to make a good TMNT movie.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by THGhost

I don't know if they're fans of TMNT, but like Galactus said, you don't have to be to make a good TMNT movie.

That's true, I suppose. You just need plain talent involved. Wish we got that the first time around.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Liebesman was supposed to be a fan.

The guy whom in that one video (that I can't currently locate...) when interviewed was asked who his favorite Turtle is and stumbled through a non-answer and was then stumped, like a deer in headlights, when the woman interviewing him said her fave was Donnie and after a baffled pause he says something to the effect of, "What does that tell me?"

Eesh! A person working on a film doesn't necessary have to be a fan of something if they still have the talent and research in their hands to pull it off right, but if you're the director of a movie and after months of filming you come away with no understanding of a character... wow.

Apparently all he knew was that a favorite was supposed to mean something. What that something is however... *throws up hands*

I think some people may just claim fandom for PR reasons, so the public might buy that they know what they're doing. Answers like that though are such a dead giveaway... and they know it.

Personally, if someone isn't a fan or was long ago and are no longer too familiar, I'd rather just not be lied to. If they've lost touch with it and simply taken the time to reacquaint themselves via research, gotten the gist of things, both TMNT stuff and fan opinions and likes, from reading up online, and are talented in their work, that is fine.



I mean it's similar to Knoxville doing Leo last time. I wasn't too thrilled with that either way, but had he researched and tried to be "in character" I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt more. But after that interview at a premier of him saying no... no research done, no special voice, "just played a big hillbilly"... benefit of the doubt gone. You don't have to be an expert on it, but if you don't at least put some research time into it, then gtfo.

[THGhost]

Yikes, I didn't know about this. I agree, a director doesn't have to necessarily be a fan of something to make a good movie out of it, but they have to at least have at an understanding of the material. Or make it appear so.

I'd laugh my ass off if I found out that Phil Lord & Christopher Miller aren't fans of LEGO.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Yikes, I didn't know about this. I agree, a director doesn't have to necessarily be a fan of something to make a good movie out of it, but they have to at least have at an understanding of the material.

Yeah, I saw that video, too. I just wanted to punch that smarmy a$$hole in the teeth for that.

You don't have to be a fan, but show some fvcking respect for doing a job well done and educate yourself. You're getting paid to give a damn.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Yikes, I didn't know about this. I agree, a director doesn't have to necessarily be a fan of something to make a good movie out of it, but they have to at least have at an understanding of the material. Or make it appear so.

I'd laugh my ass off if I found out that Phil Lord & Christopher Miller aren't fans of LEGO.

JJ Abrams wasn't a fan of Star Trek, but he did them anyways.

[Powder]

Steve Barron did his research. Read all the graphic novels. Above & beyond, his efforts.

I dunno a thing about Dave Green, but with him having said one of the biggest issues with the first flick was it's lack of heart (particularly with the turtles) I have to think he knows a little something. 'Cause the core of what makes the series so good is their family dynamic, their emotional conflicts, etc.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Powder

Steve Barron did his research. Read all the graphic novels. Above & beyond, his efforts.

I dunno a thing about Dave Green, but with him having said one of the biggest issues with the first flick was it's lack of heart (particularly with the turtles) I have to think he knows a little something. 'Cause the core of what makes the series so good is their family dynamic, their emotional conflicts, etc.

The set reports mention about the Elevator scene from the first one, the way the characters interacted, they wanted to do that in the sequel.

The funny elevator sequence from the first one was referenced by one of the actors as being a case where the chemistry between the Turtles was highlighted; expect more of that camaraderie to be displayed in part two.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Powder

Steve Barron did his research. Read all the graphic novels. Above & beyond, his efforts.

I dunno a thing about Dave Green, but with him having said one of the biggest issues with the first flick was it's lack of heart (particularly with the turtles) I have to think he knows a little something. 'Cause the core of what makes the series so good is their family dynamic, their emotional conflicts, etc.

Exactly. That was what was missing from the first movie. It needed to be longer than 90 mins or so to give us more detail regarding the Turtles' relationships with each other. Hopefully the next movie will either be longer or have those elements anyway.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

the interviews mention about the Elevator scene from the first one, the way the characters interacted, they wanted to do that in the sequel.

Dayum. So all the people who despise the first one except for the elevator scene, would have nothing to like about it if that scene wasn't included. I'm glad it was.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Powder

Steve Barron did his research. Read all the graphic novels. Above & beyond, his efforts.

I dunno a thing about Dave Green, but with him having said one of the biggest issues with the first flick was it's lack of heart (particularly with the turtles) I have to think he knows a little something. 'Cause the core of what makes the series so good is their family dynamic, their emotional conflicts, etc.

I really hope so... so far, everybody involved is saying the right things, criticising the right things from the first movie, and pointing the finger in (some of the) right directions.

Please, Green... make us proud.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

JJ Abrams wasn't a fan of Star Trek, but he did them anyways.

Yeah, and a good majority of diehard Trekkies (like myself) will tell you JJ Abrams totally fvcked up Star Trek. His movies sucked, and the third one will be no different.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Yeah, and a good majority of diehard Trekkies (like myself) will tell you JJ Abrams totally fvcked up Star Trek. His movies sucked, and the third one will be no different.

Why did the movies suck?

[Etsyturtle2]

I really loved knoxvilles voice for Leo.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Why did the movies suck?

Sigh. That's a sizeable monologue and I really don't want to derail this thread. But I'd be more than willing to take it to a separate thread or PM. Is there an Abramsverse Trek thread on the 'Drome already?