Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by mg248

People are being waaaaay to critical.

TMNT is not Citizen Kane. This is supposed to be a fun movie.'

I wish this forum was around when TMNT1990 dropped. People would've shitted on it too

What do people want that will please them?

I think people were just hoping for something with a little more heart .instead this looks just like the last one. A goofy action flick built on nostalgia that's big on sight gags and jokes qnd little on everything else like plot and characters.whats getting under my skin personally is that if you look at reactions you see alot of people acting like you shouldn't be expecting anything more than that because it's a turtles movie. If people want there OT inspired movie by way of micheal bay that's fine but it bugs me to see so many thinking it's the only way it should be done. Yeah the turtles aren't Shakespeare but neither is any other comic property but yet those get movies where thier lore is treated with respect and no one bats an eye

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

This is an interesting write about Bebop and Rocksteady's quarter century delay in theatres.
https://www.yahoo.com/?p=dnr&m=sp

Link didn't work.

[DarkLightDragon]

So to actually add to what I said just several minutes ago, people aren't being critical for critical's sake nor because we have sticks up our butts. It's because various people on this site have expressed time and again that TMNT 2014 was not a very good movie. And most of the issues discussed were rarely because it "wasn't like the original 1990 film," it was because it mainly failed telling a coherent, well-written story with characters who were either bland or just insufferably annoying to watch and listen to.

So whenever I see someone say we didn't like because it wasn't the same, I just say straight up that they're missing the point and punch in another slot on Cylon's Bay-Turtles bingo board.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by DarkLightDragon

So to actually add to what I said just several minutes ago, people aren't being critical for critical's sake nor because we have sticks up our butts. It's because various people on this site have expressed time and again that TMNT 2014 was not a very good movie. And most of the issues discussed were rarely because it "wasn't like the original 1990 film," it was because it mainly failed telling a coherent, well-written story with characters who were either bland or just insufferably annoying to watch and listen to.

So whenever I see someone say we didn't like because it wasn't the same, I just say straight up that they're missing the point and punch in another slot on Cylon's Bay-Turtles bingo board.

Sadly, I can't take credit. Her Highness PennyDreadful wrote that bad boy up. And it is glorious.

Also, to reiterate:

EVERY SINGLE PERSON who enjoyed this film and "don't get the hate" can offer no critical support for their enjoyment beyond they like it because it's Turtles or they like just big dumb fun. In other words, Nostalgia and Turn Your Brain Off.

That's it.

And to be fair, this trailer looks much better than the first movie. But we know who's producing it and what they've already produced (TMNT 2014, Transformers 1-4), and trailers are nothing more than COMMERCIALS. Show the good, hide the bad.

Educate yourselves.

[Peanut]

Is it always this insufferable in here? People seriously telling others what they can and can't like?

I liked the last movie. I think the new one looks great. Am I wrong?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Is it always this insufferable in here? People seriously telling others what they can and can't like?

I liked the last movie. I think the new one looks great. Am I wrong?

were you here when the first PD movie came out? it was super insufferable.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Link didn't work.

I dont know why it refuses to link correctly. Its titled What Bebop and Rocksteady mean to TMNT 2 from Yahoo! if you want to look it up. Sorry for the technical difficulties.

Its coming up this time. Try it again here.

http://marcusgohmarcusgoh.tumblr.com...-ninja-turtles

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

were you here when the first PD movie came out? it was super insufferable.

No. I haven't visited the TMNT sections of this forum for probably close to, if not more than, 10 years. I knew there was a lot of hate directed at these movies, but I didn't know it was the type of hate where you look down on people who don't share your exact opinion.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I dont know why it refuses to link correctly. Its titled What Bebop and Rocksteady mean to TMNT 2 from Yahoo! if you want to look it up. Sorry for the technical difficulties.

I found it, Here's the proper link.
http://news.yahoo.com/what-bebop-roc...095753715.html

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by mg248

Man I'm an TMNT90 fan. I too think that its the best flick.

But its like people are blindly hating on this. Its the internet age where everybody is a cynic.

People are acting like this is complete trash. I just don't get it.

I understand that Turtles are very near and dear to us, but this site, IMO, is being waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to critical. You guys are acting like they got NOTHING right.

Ok not blindly hating and this isn't even aimed at you. Personally if you like this film more power to you I see no reason why I can't be civil or heck friends with the people on this board who like this movie. Me and another user name Shark_Blade disagree on almost everything yet I still like the guy (assuming he is a guy)

My problems stem from more than just the designs and actors involved. Story and writing are always fore front for me since I like to write in my free time. So it's the first thing I'm going to look at and the writing in the 1990 movie had less problem in their story than the 2014 movie.

[DarkLightDragon]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Sadly, I can't take credit. Her Highness PennyDreadful wrote that bad boy up. And it is glorious.

Curse and confound my memory. Thanks pennydreadful if you ever get to read this.

I think I'm getting close to a bingo myself.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Peanut

No. I haven't visited the TMNT sections of this forum for probably close to, if not more than, 10 years. I knew there was a lot of hate directed at these movies, but I didn't know it was the type of hate where you look down on people who don't share your exact opinion.

Terrible movies cause controversy. It's what they do. When fans buy tickets, and later praise the results online, they're voting for more of the same. That's a huge piss-off to the fans who aren't getting the quality of movie they want, so the argument begins. Unfortunately there's only one "movie-verse" to fight over, and since that is often the world that informs how the future of the franchise is handled, it's a fight to the death. Some want intelligent dialogue and intense action, with important moral dilemmas and a proper adherence to the source material (for most people, that would be Mirage, not FW); others want ga ga, and goo goo, and to blow bubbles in their poo poo. We try to be kind, but sometimes, we cross the line.

This isn't a problem specific to the Drome. Are you new to the internet or something?

[TheCollector]

Y'know, I can't believe I forgot to add this to my posts the other day, but something else about this trailer that I really feel shows they may be doing better this time is their choice of song.

I mean it just fits the Turtles so much better then that garbage techno thing they used in the first, it even has the whole, 'GO go go go' bit present in like every good Turtles song.

[MikeandRaph87]

Penny wrote up a defiant child to vice-principal Jester? I thought I was the teacher around here.

I might join in the next Bingo game. What is the priz3 for getting Bingo?

I hope for Shredder to keep his helmet on. Its rare he goes without it. Really just a scwne a movievis neccessary.

[Commenter 42]

I think most of us love the song.

It's a well cut trailer, very exciting etc, but the question becomes - what's it hiding?

I remember the trailer for Battle LA, and how everyone lost their minds. You could name at least 5 trailers that brought hype levels up on films that, in the end, were absolute dogs. They cut in a few good lines.
The song is great, but you could cut a lot of things to that song and have people love it.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by TheCollector

Y'know, I can't believe I forgot to add this to my posts the other day, but something else about this trailer that I really feel shows they may be doing better this time is their choice of song.

I mean it just fits the Turtles so much better then that garbage techno thing they used in the first, it even has the whole, 'GO go go go' bit present in like every good Turtles song.

Even though it's an old rap song, but its a new remix of it, which gave it the TMNT flavor.

[Vicky82]

I've lost count on how many times i've see the trailer (I've definitely seen it more times than the 1st 2014 movie trailer), it's just so entertaining and i'm hyped to see more new stuff.

I'm actually looking forward to the 2nd trailer but i'm guessing that won't be until March or April. Maybe it will debut in front of Batman vs Superman or Captain America.

I hope Paramount don't go quite until the next trailer, they need to promote more stuff like the posters ect.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I've lost count on how many times i've see the trailer (I've definitely seen it more times than the 1st 2014 movie trailer), it's just so entertaining and i'm hyped to see more new stuff.

I'm actually looking forward to the 2nd trailer but i'm guessing that won't be until March or April. Maybe it will debut in front of Batman vs Superman or Captain America.

I hope Paramount don't go quite until the next trailer, they need to promote more stuff like the posters ect.

It's no doubt that the 2nd trailer a few months from now, will reveal more of the plot, and maybe tease Krang?

I wonder if Krang will speak English and talk like the 80s cartoon, or will it be the thing that the Nick series does, in which the Kraang only speak English when in a robot body suit?

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I've lost count on how many times i've see the trailer (I've definitely seen it more times than the 1st 2014 movie trailer), it's just so entertaining and i'm hyped to see more new stuff.

same. the first trailer for the first movie had me hyped for the sheer novelty of having the boys back on the big screen. but seeing that trailer now, with a fresh pair of non-nostalgic pair of eyes, it was messy in tone, and tried to hard to be dramatic, much like the movie itself.

THIS trailer on the other hand, was cut well, the music works, introduces a lot without completing revealing the story ... its just a strong, enjoyable trailer overall.

Funny enough, before this came out, I was writing that for sure, we'd be getting a MOSTLY human trailer, with minimal Turtle, and NO B&R...I stand corrected. Happily corrected.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

I think people were just hoping for something with a little more heart .instead this looks just like the last one. A goofy action flick built on nostalgia that's big on sight gags and jokes qnd little on everything else like plot and characters.whats getting under my skin personally is that if you look at reactions you see alot of people acting like you shouldn't be expecting anything more than that because it's a turtles movie. If people want there OT inspired movie by way of micheal bay that's fine but it bugs me to see so many thinking it's the only way it should be done. Yeah the turtles aren't Shakespeare but neither is any other comic property but yet those get movies where thier lore is treated with respect and no one bats an eye

That's because to many, the OT is the only way to go. I like the OT, but sometimes I get tired of the goofiness and simply want something more serious, so I can sit up and take it more seriously. As long as the OT remains the only standard however, we'll never get a deep movie.