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Old 12-10-2015, 01:37 PM   #1201
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He's hideous now. Its sad this guy is still going to be Batman in the upcoming Justice League and Batman solo movies. Hopefully we see very little Bruce Wayne and more of him in the costume because he looks like a mannequin now.

Why did he do this? Couldn't he wait till his DC role playing Batman was finished? I don't want to watch an ugly Bruce Wayne in DC films for the next decade.
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:00 PM   #1202
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OMG....

Batfleck is now Plas-fleck. no? Manni-fleck.

Well, he's definitely Cubeds' new nostrils.
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:06 PM   #1203
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OMG....

Batfleck is now Plas-fleck. no? Manni-fleck.

Well, he's definitely Cubeds' new nostrils.
Well, at least the TMNT are off that particular hook!
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Old 12-11-2015, 01:43 AM   #1204
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Have we ever seen Alfred in this movie yet? I just realized I don't think I know who is playing him or if we've seen him yet. Anyone have a pic?
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:16 AM   #1205
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Yes, Jeremy Irons is Alfred and we've seen and heard a bunch already.
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:37 AM   #1206
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Damn let the dude do what he sees fit with his face geez.
And yeah he looks kinda bloated, but it tends to go down after a while (like with breat implants or calogen injections). Not a fan personally but ya know such is life.
At least he hasn't gone full out Mickey Rourke. YET
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Old 12-11-2015, 02:37 PM   #1207
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Problem is now he looks younger than he does in the movie. I don't know why he changed his face, he was actually aging rather well for a guy that's almost 50.
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Old 12-11-2015, 02:57 PM   #1208
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At least he hasn't gone full out Mickey Rourke. YET
But he's so close. I think if he dug a little deeper...really gave it his all...
You know, he might be better suited for another role now...

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Old 12-11-2015, 06:48 PM   #1209
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Normally I'd say that Cybercubed is overreacting but I agree with him, he looks different enough and not Batman enough. And now we're stuck with a guy who doesn't look a lot like Batman. At least based on the pictures we'd have to actually wait to see if he doesn't look that bad in his next portrayal of Batman but I'll be pretty pissed if he messed the look up.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:23 PM   #1210
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Too many Cubed tags.


His Cubism is harmless enough.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:44 AM   #1211
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It seems that Will Smith's Deadshot will appear not just in Suicide Squad, but in the potential solo Batman film as well. Instead of being a featured villain he is supposed to be in an uneasy alliance with Batman.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/smith-dea...135955087.html
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:55 AM   #1212
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It seems that Will Smith's Deadshot will appear not just in Suicide Squad, but in the potential solo Batman film as well. Instead of being a featured villain he is supposed to be in an uneasy alliance with Batman.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/smith-dea...135955087.html
I don't like that. I want Under the Red Hood to be the first Batman solo movie. Keep Deadshot out of it; he'll take too much time from Jason Todd and Joker.
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Old 12-12-2015, 02:58 PM   #1213
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Tsk tsk. Did we learn nothing, CKD? Haven't we already learned that you can have someone in a movie as a cameo, even an important one, without "cramming" it or breaking the larger story? Did I not just conclusively prove that to you not that long ago? C'mon now, don't go slipping back into paranoia. We've come so far so fast.

I kind of never cared about Deadshot but they're paying for Fresh Prince and they wanna get some mileage out of that. A'ight. Makes sense. He can be in other movies if they want.

Also: I'unno if you've noticed, but no comic book movie has had Just One Villain for the last 100 years and they never will again. So, y'know. Even if Jason and the Joker really are the Main Villains in the Batman movie, that leaves plenty for someone like Deadshot to do. But frankly, I think their Big Plan is to use Suicide Squad, and a cameo in the Batman movie, as an excuse to do a solo Deadpool spin-off. And if you think that's not the plan, you're nuts, because it's Will Smith so OF COURSE that's their plan.
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Old 12-12-2015, 03:11 PM   #1214
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Tsk tsk. Did we learn nothing, CKD? Haven't we already learned that you can have someone in a movie as a cameo, even an important one, without "cramming" it or breaking the larger story? Did I not just conclusively prove that to you not that long ago? C'mon now, don't go slipping back into paranoia. We've come so far so fast.

I kind of never cared about Deadshot but they're paying for Fresh Prince and they wanna get some mileage out of that. A'ight. Makes sense. He can be in other movies if they want.

Also: I'unno if you've noticed, but no comic book movie has had Just One Villain for the last 100 years and they never will again. So, y'know. Even if Jason and the Joker really are the Main Villains in the Batman movie, that leaves plenty for someone like Deadshot to do. But frankly, I think their Big Plan is to use Suicide Squad, and a cameo in the Batman movie, as an excuse to do a solo Deadpool spin-off. And if you think that's not the plan, you're nuts, because it's Will Smith so OF COURSE that's their plan.
You're right, I panicked. I just get nervous whenever Will Smith comes around. That man doesn't do "cameos", he does full-fledged roles 'cause paychecks.

Thinking about it, having Deadshot hired by Black Mask to take out Red Hood before ol' Roman finally resorts to breaking Joker out of Arkham would be pretty cool. But still... I love Will Smith as an actor, but he doesn't do chump change appearance as far as I've ever seen.
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Old 12-12-2015, 03:20 PM   #1215
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It might not be a 5-minute cameo but if he's in it it will be in service to the larger story. UNLESS the story about wanting to use Jason as the main villain was BS. Which is possible. BUT, DC/WB is trying to create a ton of brand synergy, and since the Arkham Knight game did okay they want to spread Jason around a bit. So I think it's true that he'll be the Main Villain but Deadshot will have aside role.

I personally care nothing for Will Smith, but he means butts in seats and everyone loves him, so whatever, fine with me.
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I like Jason Todd a lot but lets be realistic; unless completely butchered/changed the complicated history of Jason Todd is not going to come across very well in movie format.
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You're right, I panicked. I just get nervous whenever Will Smith comes around. That man doesn't do "cameos", he does full-fledged roles 'cause paychecks.

Thinking about it, having Deadshot hired by Black Mask to take out Red Hood before ol' Roman finally resorts to breaking Joker out of Arkham would be pretty cool. But still... I love Will Smith as an actor, but he doesn't do chump change appearance as far as I've ever seen.
Actually he did do one chump appearance despite that reputation. He appeared as the head of ESPN bradcast team in Anchorman 2. One scene and amongst a slew of others who shared the screen for only 6 minutes of time.

Why does the film have to be aboutvJason Freaking Todd? He may be Batmsn's greatest failure, but he is also a repeated failure as a character. His few fans have Under The Hood direct to DVD film Isn't that enough? Black Mask would be fine. Hush. Clayface. Another round of The Riddler. Come on!
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You only have to hit the main beats. Troubled youth, got to be Robin for 5 minutes, Joker killed him, now he's back and he's killing everyone because despite Batman's best efforts he was always kind of a bad person to begin with.

A few carefully placed, dramatically-shot flashbacks and a little Bruce-Alfred exposition and you get everyone up to speed in ten minutes.

MikeandRaph: His stuff sells right now, it's all marketing synergy. I hate Jason but I have to admit that's not the worst story they could do for the next movie. The worst thing they could do would probably be a straight retelling of the origin again, or "just" another Batman/Joker movie. At least adding Jason to the mix creates something movie audiences haven't seen before.

Plus, I like that not only are they NOT afraid to reference Robin, but they're also fine with using MULTIPLE Robins (if the Nightwing rumors turn out to be true). After everyone who touched the franchise in film for the last 30 years said, "You can't do Robin, it'd be awful," I give them credit for balls just for going all-in on it in the first place.
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Old 12-12-2015, 04:35 PM   #1219
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Why does the film have to be about Jason Freaking Todd? He may be Batmsn's greatest failure, but he is also a repeated failure as a character. His few fans have Under The Hood direct to DVD film Isn't that enough? Black Mask would be fine. Hush. Clayface. Another round of The Riddler. Come on!
Would you rather Dick Grayson be the only Robin in this film universe? 'Cause if that's the case, then Dick is DEAD. Having Jason as Red Hood means the entire history of Robin is on the table and viable for adaptation, which means more material for great movies.

That also means you and I could get a Nightwing movie, focused on Dick Grayson, his history as Robin and Nightwing, and some Babs action besides.

Trust me... for all your apathy towards Todd, he's the key to unlocking some potential to make both of us happy. Otherwise, all we end up with is dead Dick Grayson. Or worse, Frank Miller Dick Grayson.

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I like Jason Todd a lot but lets be realistic; unless completely butchered/changed the complicated history of Jason Todd is not going to come across very well in movie format.
Under the Red Hood condenses his history very nicely, hitting all important notes and leaving out the others.
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Or worse, Frank Miller Dick Grayson.
We don't bring that up 'round these parts, ya heard?

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