Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

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Originally Posted by mg248

How did you feel about TMNT14?

I enjoyed parts of the film. Primarily those with the Turtles. When I watch film now, I usually (always) skip to the 16-17 minute mark when the brothers make their first appearance. The cast and the producer admitted themselves, they were never sure where they were going, and they actually shot, multiple versions of movie-1 (as evidenced by all the set photos, and videos of scenes that never made it to the final cut). They are all but admitting it was a mess, and I agree, while parts of it were enjoyable, the overall movie was a just a mess. Shame that we may be seeing a vastly superior sequel only after that mess occured.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by strawberryfields

The biggest problem with the 2014 movie is that it was hacked together after that whole white shredder controversy. You can tell based on the editing and pacing that we didn't see the movie as it was originally intended. Now they have a clean slate- Im sure this one will be better

I love how it's the fans who get kicked in the ass over that. Like, soooo kewlllll!


Platinum Dunes

"So, the people who buy our product, are upset that we made changes. They feel it's wrong to take a story that centers around the feud of two Japanese men, and remove them from the story entirely, only to replace them with a single old white guy.
The fans are monsters. If we don't change it back, they may not pay for it. We better change it, but man, we are so not happy about it. We think our version is so much better. What the hell do they know, those stupid fans. Big Babies. Bunch of idiots.

We better make sure we blame them for this. They should feel guilty and horrible, and whip themselves in private. Those ungrateful losers. After all we've done for them!"

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

Dont let get you down leo. After thinking about it I've become pretty optimistic about the whole thing. These different interpretations of characters come and go. Like for anybody who thought Nolan's dark knight trilogy was too realistic there's a more comic booky version hitting the screen next year. I wasn't a fan of the amazing spiderman movies but now those are over and the Web head gets to join the mcu.maybe this isnt the movie we wanted but sooner or later they'll be another reboot and in the meantime there's the comic, the cartoon and who knows maybe that game they're working on won't suck.

Nick is Nick. Things are never going to get any better than what's being made right now. The franchise as I knew and loved it, is dead and buried, because TMNT is owned by a company whose one and only goal is selling plastic to children, with no direction beyond that. There will be no Phoenix rising from the ashes; only more slapstick and pizza puns.

At least I'll always have the 1990 movie, the 2K3 cartoon, and the 2/3s of the Archie book that was actually good. Just sucks I'm never going to get anything I can enjoy that much ever again. Just "Here, take it, it's better than nothing."

Ah well.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Nick is Nick. Things are never going to get any better than what's being made right now. The franchise as I knew and loved it, is dead and buried, because TMNT is owned by a company whose one and only goal is selling plastic to children, with no direction beyond that. There will be no Phoenix rising from the ashes; only more slapstick and pizza puns.

At least I'll always have the 1990 movie, the 2K3 cartoon, and the 2/3s of the Archie book that was actually good. Just sucks I'm never going to get anything I can enjoy that much ever again. Just "Here, take it, it's better than nothing."

Ah well.

The IDW comic is very good.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Lets hope.

I find it a bit odd that the guys are (or were) bulletproof yet... have battle scars to their shells. How the...

There is no logic, there is only Zhuul.

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

MICHAEL BAY / PLATINUM DUNES did the Transformers movies and the TMNT movies. Differentiating between the man himself and the film company he created is splitting hairs.

Bingo!

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Sadly, I can't take credit. Her Highness PennyDreadful wrote that bad boy up. And it is glorious.

Originally Posted by DarkLightDragon

Curse and confound my memory. Thanks pennydreadful if you ever get to read this.

Ah, I really can't take credit either - it was a group effort. At this rate, I think I'll be able to add a fifth row in very short order; particularly now that the old "Citizen Kane" argument is being trotted out again. It is all meant in good fun but goddamned if I'll ever understand why people get so emotionally invested in arguing over a movie. The only way to cope with the boredom of having to read the same arguments over and over is to turn it into a game. Therefore, we bingo.

[Walkabout]

I just saw the trailer.

It appears to be just as terribad as the last movie.

Damn you Michael Bay.

[TigerClaw]

The Turtle Power Podcast breaksdown the trailer.
http://www.turtlepowerpodcast.com/20...Episode44.html

[Speedy Cerviche]

I'm liking this so far. It would seem that alot of retconning will be going on in this sequel's story. I'm thinking that dimension swirl scene at the beginning of the trailer would fit best as near the end of this film to introduce Krang and as a kind of cliffhanger for the next film because obviously this will be a trilogy, I think that was confirmed. I hope it's like the FW or the new IDW comic singular Krang and not like the Kraang from the Nick show. While they've grown on me I like the singular dimensionial warlord type of Krang better. Also, we don't need Vernon or Eric Sachs in this film, they shouldn't have even been in the last one. Atleast there's no Irma thank god.

[Vicky82]

I haven't watched WWE for ages but I wonder if the crowd will be chanting 'Rocksteady' during Sheamus match on TLC tomorrow or on Raw on Monday

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I haven't watched WWE for ages but I wonder if the crowd will be chanting 'Rocksteady' during Sheamus match on TLC tomorrow or on Raw on Monday

I now wonder how much the WWE will be tapped to promote the movie closer top release.

[MikeandRaph87]

What if Roman Reigns gets a little help from Stephen Amell against Shameaus? That could be a possible way of promoting it considering Amell just fought in the ring a few months ago.


I hope we see a Director's Cut of the 2014 film. I want to see the Trenchcoat Raphael sequence.

[sethmartin]

The movie is about the turtles. Designs have been touched up to make the turtles less gross. Better Shredder. Bebop and Rocksteady. Fun vibe. Possible Technodrome. Casey Jones. It's the exact movie I wanted when I was a kid.

I'm skeptical, sure, but it looks like Ninja Turtles. It feels like Ninja Turtles.

[Metalwolf]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

I would love to see a dark, serious movie but I know that's not going to happen.

I expect it will have some serious moments in the movie to balance it out, like the Nick show.

It sounded like there was a serious moment when Donnie said "I don't know, it doesn't look good" It gave me chills. The tone in his voice was perfect.

Yeah, I think this is going to be the darkest we're going to get. I think for me, the 'ideal' TMNT movie would be a dark movie that did have OT characters like B&R who were tanks and were chock full of malignant stupidity (or Nick guys like Rahzar) but took the best parts of it and left the crappy cheeseball humor and slapstick out of it. But so far, this trailer is giving me hope, and I'm willing to be open minded enough to give this a chance. The main draw for me is seeing the Turtles vs. B&R, and we'll see how that goes.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Nick is Nick. Things are never going to get any better than what's being made right now. The franchise as I knew and loved it, is dead and buried, because TMNT is owned by a company whose one and only goal is selling plastic to children, with no direction beyond that. There will be no Phoenix rising from the ashes; only more slapstick and pizza puns.

At least I'll always have the 1990 movie, the 2K3 cartoon, and the 2/3s of the Archie book that was actually good. Just sucks I'm never going to get anything I can enjoy that much ever again. Just "Here, take it, it's better than nothing."

Ah well.

Well, that is always why I always protest whenever someone suggests that toys and merchandising to children are good things, and any iteration of this franchise (or any other) should primarily be aimed at children. I don't have anything against children, but they are not some special group that should be catered to at the exclusion of adults, or justify why we can't have something less 'child-friendly' just because parents think all TMNT should be mainly for kids and might complain.

I agree with you about another post you wrote some time ago, that you grew up and the same things that appealed to you once as a kid no longer do. I want my TMNT to rely less on goofy crap and more on building up the characters and story, I get annoyed when people want a show to remain immature and simple just for the kids, especially if they are invested in the idea of it being a 'kid's franchise' because of some happy memories of the OT.

Unfortunately you have apologists for it to be primarily for kids, toys and merchandise sales oft quoted as needed to 'keep the franchise going.' Well, why do we rely mainly on fickle kids to continue a franchise? Why not just make good stories and things the characters go through so that it doesn't matter if it has toys or not. Kids will be drawn into it if the story is good. Some of the best movies and things I've seen as a kid didn't have toys, I was invested in the characters and what they went through. Toys only make this sweeter, but they shouldn't be the main driving force because then we get inane crap thrown at us in the name of the toys.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Jester

I now wonder how much the WWE will be tapped to promote the movie closer top release.

They already are. They put the World Title on Sheamus despite most fans not caring at all about Sheamus. There's little to no doubt he's going to be a major player on TV all the way until the movie comes out, mostly because everyone else is hurt, but he was always going to get the traditional "movie push" anyway. Meanwhile, more people watch WWE than would go see a TMNT movie, but they're going to play the trailers constantly on their TV shows - they already did that with the last one despite having no actual reason to, since none of their people were in the last one. So it's definitely going to be promoted heavily on WWE TV and kind of already is in a way.

[sdp]

You guys might not remember but the TMNT appeared in WWE around ten years ago or so, I think during the ECW revival, maybe it was to promote the 2007 film, I just remember they were hanging out in the crowd and Michael Cole mentioning "oh look it's the TMNT here in the arena..........don't forget their new........" or whatever, I think i twas during a PPV.


I also find funny Leo getting mad because the TMNT hasn't grown up like he has so he'll have to stop liking the franchise. Dude, the name of the franchise is TMNT, unless you like the Mirage comics don't expect anything for you, it was made a world brand by targeting to kids, now it's being targeted to kids and nostalgic adults. Also it's not like WWE has adapted very well either yet you love it.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

The movie is about the turtles. Designs have been touched up to make the turtles less gross. Better Shredder. Bebop and Rocksteady. Fun vibe. Possible Technodrome. Casey Jones. It's the exact movie I wanted when I was a kid.

I'm skeptical, sure, but it looks like Ninja Turtles. It feels like Ninja Turtles.

Finally, some optimism.

[Vicky82]

The trailer has reached 10 million views on YouTube.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by sdp

You guys might not remember but the TMNT appeared in WWE around ten years ago or so, I think during the ECW revival, maybe it was to promote the 2007 film, I just remember they were hanging out in the crowd and Michael Cole mentioning "oh look it's the TMNT here in the arena..........don't forget their new........" or whatever, I think i twas during a PPV.


I also find funny Leo getting mad because the TMNT hasn't grown up like he has so he'll have to stop liking the franchise. Dude, the name of the franchise is TMNT, unless you like the Mirage comics don't expect anything for you, it was made a world brand by targeting to kids, now it's being targeted to kids and nostalgic adults. Also it's not like WWE has adapted very well either yet you love it.

See the thing is I'll never agree with that. Practically every single popular superhero got where they are by marketing to kids and had a silly none offensive cartoon on the air at some point. that never stopped thier brands from growing with thier audience. Why should tmnt be the exception. But let's be honest this doesn't have anything to do with kids. The cartoon kids are watching right now is darker and more layered than this movie so it can't be about making things suitable for them. This is platinum dunes trying to capitalize on nostalgia plain and simple. And it's working.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

The trailer has reached 10 million views on YouTube.

The Tarzan trailer has had over 7 million views and it's something that's a much bigger gamble, isn't well-known by younger people and is a franchise that hasn't had a live action movie in quite some time.

The Star Wars trailer has had 69 million views. The Deadpool trailer has had 31 million views and compared to TMNT, Deadpool isn't significantly well-known (ie, I could go to my mother and mention TMNT and she'll know who I'm talking about - if I mention Deadpool, she wouldn't know what I was referencing).

Given how well-known the TMNT franchise is, 10 million views isn't particularly great, IMO.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

The Tarzan trailer has had over 7 million views and it's something that's a much bigger gamble, isn't well-known by younger people and is a franchise that hasn't had a live action movie in quite some time.

The Star Wars trailer has had 69 million views. The Deadpool trailer has had 31 million views and compared to TMNT, Deadpool isn't significantly well-known (ie, I could go to my mother and mention TMNT and she'll know who I'm talking about - if I mention Deadpool, she wouldn't know what I was referencing).

Given how well-known the TMNT franchise is, 10 million views isn't particularly great, IMO.

The trailer is expected to play in front of The Force Awakens, chances are the views will go much higher when the general public becomes aware of it.