Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion - Page 40

Technogeek29 · 12-14-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCollector

Y'know, I gotta say, one critique on this trailer I actually don't agree with is the one on it being wrong for the turtles to be out in day light like that in that one scene.

I mean, I get not being seen when doing ninja things, but why does that mean every hour of every day? I mean, it says in the opening of every turtle versions how they can't be seen cause no one would except them.

And then there's how every time they go to an alien planet or the future they walk around among people no problem, because no one there would freak out at them what with all the aliens.

So like, I don't see that scene as a problem, somehow those people aren't freaking the hell out, so it's all good to me.

Well... It depends on what angle of how you want the Turtles presented. Do you want them to be vigilantes who go out and fight crime? Or Avengers and really just get involved by accident.

*Shark_Blade* · 12-14-2015, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

This is pretty cool, Stephen Amell just posted a new facebook video, in the beginning he talks about TMNT 2, and gives a shout out to Black Nerd, for his review of the TMNT: Out of the Shadows trailer.
https://www.facebook.com/stephenamel...26700/?theater

How sweet.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-14-2015, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav

I thought you said before that you liked Tales of the TMNT.

Good call Garth. I should have clarified that. I did like most of Tales. At least a hell of a lot more than Vol. 4.

It's still not my favorite TMNT universe by any stretch. Thanks for the reminder though. I just thought it was funny that someone would automatically assume I have some kind of pro-Mirage bias.

I'unno how anyone would get that impression.

TheCollector · 12-15-2015, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29

Well... It depends on what angle of how you want the Turtles presented. Do you want them to be vigilantes who go out and fight crime? Or Avengers and really just get involved by accident.

Wait, why do vigilantes have to never be seen? Batman's pretty much known by everyone in Gotham City at this point in the comics, and seen, yet he's still a vigilante.

Vigilante means operating outside the law, not being thought of as nothing more then an urban legend despite being real.

Technogeek29 · 12-15-2015, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCollector

Wait, why do vigilantes have to never be seen? Batman's pretty much known by everyone in Gotham City at this point in the comics, and seen, yet he's still a vigilante.

Vigilante means operating outside the law, not being thought of as nothing more then an urban legend despite being real.

I mean't like in the cartoons they are more like vigilantes, as oppose to the comic book versions they tend to shy away from that. Archie might be the most heroic version of this medium but even then I wouldn't make them out as heroic as the cartoons or this movie.

The entire first movie is really them just getting involved by accident in the grand scheme of things. April was being rob and serve as a perfect test for their first trip to the surface, but Raph lost his sai so he trailed April to get it back beat up the foot and pissed them off so they kidnap Splinter. Heck the Turtles don't care about the foot they were just retaliating because Splinter and Raph were hurt by the foot. So in other words their is no hero of the first movie Casey is the closest thing to it since he is actively trying to do good.

*Xav* · 12-15-2015, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Good call Garth. I should have clarified that. I did like most of Tales. At least a hell of a lot more than Vol. 4.

It's still not my favorite TMNT universe by any stretch. Thanks for the reminder though. I just thought it was funny that someone would automatically assume I have some kind of pro-Mirage bias.

I'unno how anyone would get that impression.

You did say you liked the 1990 film and 4Kids show, which are both Mirage based. Did you really not like any of the volume 1 comics they are based on?

~~Leo656~~ · 12-15-2015, 02:26 AM

Well yeah, I do, it's just not my favorite. I also read all of Vol. 1 in order, guest issues and all, and holy sh*t was that a mistake. I mean yeah, if you stick to the few issues that are just canon, yeah, it's fine. It's a little dry though, and I never liked the art.

I thought the 1990 movie really did a great job capturing some of the best early Mirage stuff, and would have really loved it if the second film was about the Utroms, Mousers, and Baxter, and maybe the third one have Fugitoid and the Triceratons, by which point they could have seamlessly married the Mirage and Fred Wolf continuities by having some reason to involve Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady. That would have been a nice progression, from the first movie being grounded, the second one being a little more sci-fi and the third being full-on science fiction, since the Mirage comics had a similar evolution over the course of the series.

I think Mirage had some of the best ideas but that a few of them were done just as well or better elsewhere. Like, the episodes based on Mirage weren't some of the 2K3 series best, but I give them points for trying. I thought they did a good job using Mirage as a base to build on before skewing off into their own thing. I like that, it respects what came before while still being its own unique version. I like it a lot more than the newer films' approach of throwing the originals completely out the window.

Anyways, yeah, of course there's some Mirage stuff I like but I have to do some serious cherry-picking, and there's a ton of stuff I'd just as soon not read again, too.

*TrickOrTreater* · 12-15-2015, 11:24 AM

Oh hey looks like hot garbage.

Color. Me. Surprised.

*Vicky82* · 12-15-2015, 11:29 AM

I was wondering when you were going to turn up. The trailer hit 5 days ago.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-15-2015, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Oh hey looks like hot garbage.

Color. Me. Surprised.

I've missed you man. This thread needs all the people of good taste it can get.

*TrickOrTreater* · 12-15-2015, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I was wondering when you were going to turn up. The trailer hit 5 days ago.

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I've missed you man. This thread needs all the people of good taste it can get.

Been on vacation!

Almost zero internet besides tumblr and instagram on my phone, and I had absolutely zero idea this dumpster fire came out 5 days ago.

Is that indicative of anything? Probably not.

Probably not...

~~Amaranthus~~ · 12-15-2015, 11:55 AM

I don't get why people are being hopeful about this.
The turtles' designs changed slightly. They're still huge and they still look awful.
There was a scene in the trailer with the turtles being chased by a tank in a river. Totally ninja, guys!

DarkLightDragon · 12-15-2015, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Oh hey looks like hot garbage.

Color. Me. Surprised.

The prophet has finally returned!

But seriously, neat to see you back, TOT.

*TrickOrTreater* · 12-15-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I don't get why people are being hopeful about this.
The turtles' designs changed slightly. They're still huge and they still look awful.
There was a scene in the trailer with the turtles being chased by a tank in a river. Totally ninja, guys!

Feels awfully reminiscent of the first go around.

Except slightly sadder because the first time we didn't have a previous movie in the series to help guess the quality of the movie(other than Platinum Dunes entire film library).

Now it just reeks of desperation and a drive to "stick it to the haters no matter what."

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Originally Posted by DarkLightDragon

The prophet has finally returned!

But seriously, neat to see you back, TOT.

Aww thanks. But I'm no prophet.

Spoiler:

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-15-2015, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I don't get why people are being hopeful about this.
The turtles' designs changed slightly. They're still huge and they still look awful.
There was a scene in the trailer with the turtles being chased by a tank in a river. Totally ninja, guys!

Ninjas like to have fun at water parks, too, y'know. It's just no one ever sees them there.

Maybe this is an end-credits scene. After stopping Krang and Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady decide to become good guys and, as way for making up for their prior actions, take the Turtles to the most wicked waterslide park ever.

The tank shoots WATER BALLOONS.

...

I have no idea what I'm typing, but it's STILL a better story than whatever this is.

*Vicky82* · 12-15-2015, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I don't get why people are being hopeful about this.
The turtles' designs changed slightly. They're still huge and they still look awful.
There was a scene in the trailer with the turtles being chased by a tank in a river. Totally ninja, guys!

It's got a more positive vibe than the last movie.

Even though the Turtles designs improved a little bit, I'm not a fan of there designs either but it's not my main focus.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 12-15-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

It's got a more positive vibe than the last movie.

Even though the Turtles designs improved a little bit, I'm not a fan of there designs either but it's not my main focus.

They gave Donnie suspenders.
How is that an improvement?

*Vicky82* · 12-15-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

They gave Donnie suspenders.
How is that an improvement?

I said designs not clothes, which is also not part of my main focus.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-15-2015, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

They gave Donnie suspenders.
How is that an improvement?

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I said designs not clothes, which is also not part of my main focus.

Suspenders, Nerd Glasses, and a 7'2" Face-Lift.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 12-15-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

I said designs not clothes, which is also not part of my main focus.

Pretty sure clothes are part of the design.

12-15-2015, 11:29 AM	#789
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,805	I was wondering when you were going to turn up. The trailer hit 5 days ago. __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

12-15-2015, 02:26 AM	#787
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Well yeah, I do, it's just not my favorite. I also read all of Vol. 1 in order, guest issues and all, and holy sh*t was that a mistake. I mean yeah, if you stick to the few issues that are just canon, yeah, it's fine. It's a little dry though, and I never liked the art. I thought the 1990 movie really did a great job capturing some of the best early Mirage stuff, and would have really loved it if the second film was about the Utroms, Mousers, and Baxter, and maybe the third one have Fugitoid and the Triceratons, by which point they could have seamlessly married the Mirage and Fred Wolf continuities by having some reason to involve Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady. That would have been a nice progression, from the first movie being grounded, the second one being a little more sci-fi and the third being full-on science fiction, since the Mirage comics had a similar evolution over the course of the series. I think Mirage had some of the best ideas but that a few of them were done just as well or better elsewhere. Like, the episodes based on Mirage weren't some of the 2K3 series best, but I give them points for trying. I thought they did a good job using Mirage as a base to build on before skewing off into their own thing. I like that, it respects what came before while still being its own unique version. I like it a lot more than the newer films' approach of throwing the originals completely out the window. Anyways, yeah, of course there's some Mirage stuff I like but I have to do some serious cherry-picking, and there's a ton of stuff I'd just as soon not read again, too.

12-15-2015, 11:55 AM	#792
~~Amaranthus~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West-Flanders, Belgium Posts: 1,815	I don't get why people are being hopeful about this. The turtles' designs changed slightly. They're still huge and they still look awful. There was a scene in the trailer with the turtles being chased by a tank in a river. Totally ninja, guys!