"Batman/TMNT" #1 of 6 Preview and Discussion - Page 5

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-12-2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Here's my full summary and review of Batman/TMNT #1 at TMNT Entity.

While it was mostly just the usual introduction stage stuff for a crossover, I've got to say that I really dig the artist/colorist team. The book looks really good.

Storywise, it's setup, but as a Batman fan I can say that I like the way Tynion writes Killer Croc. Never liked the mindless monster version that was being pushed through the 2000s.

Hey, I didn't know you did articles on Batman TPBs!

If I ever amass a Batman TPB collection, it's gonna be thanks to you easily listing the early Batman chronology with your two articles on AiPT.

Thanks man!

*CyberCubed* · 12-12-2015, 01:47 PM

I've always wanted to get into Batman comics but just don't have the money or time. If the TMNT franchise never existed then Batman would probably be my #1 franchise. I'd probably be posting on some Batman forum right about now instead.

I'd love to get more into X-men too, but alas. I've watched all the cartoons and movies with them at least, and many of the videogames so I know the lore.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-12-2015, 02:38 PM

It's so frustrating to me that you think "getting into comics" means having to read every single thing ever published. I get that it's a thing TMNT fans do, because it's a much smaller scale, it's a finite thing that can be collected to completion, but even then it's kind of stupid because only about 1/3 of ALL the TMNT comics ever produced are even worth reading.

I've told you, if you want to get into Batman comics I can get you there really easy. You don't have to be a sadist like me and try and own "everything". Such roads lead to madness. For starters, there were NO Batman comics published before 1974 that were even worth reading so don't even worry about them. See? That mountain in your head just got a whole lot smaller already. Everything else worth reading is reprinted in cheap TPBs.

You keep making dumb excuses and I'ma smack you, and that's not a thing you want.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-12-2015, 02:54 PM

No stuff worth reading before 1974?

There is in the midst of the greatest stretch of comics in Batman history. Too many to list. I do agree about the ridiculous compulsion to read everything however. Just looking the back issue archivee and read what looks appealing.

As for Cubed just take his bucket hat and...*wham*

*myconius* · 12-12-2015, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I've always wanted to get into Batman comics but just don't have the money or time. If the TMNT franchise never existed then Batman would probably be my #1 franchise. I'd probably be posting on some Batman forum right about now instead.

I'd love to get more into X-men too, but alas. I've watched all the cartoons and movies with them at least, and many of the videogames so I know the lore.

you probably have read some of these Batman stories before?
but if you haven't you might want to consider checking out some of these?
they are pretty enjoyable as stand-alone stories that don't require any prior research.

Batman: Year One
Robin/Batgirl: Year One
Batman Killing Joke
Batman & Son
Batman: Hush
Batman: Judgement on Gotham

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-12-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by myconius

you probably have read some of these Batman stories before?
but if you haven't you might want to consider checking out some of these?
they are pretty enjoyable as stand-alone stories that don't require any prior research.

Batman: Year One
Robin/Batgirl: Year One
Batman Killing Joke
Batman & Son
Batman: Hush
Batman: Judgement on Gotham

What's Judgment on Gotham? The Dredd crossover?

I also HIGHLY recommend Batman: Under the Hood.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-12-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

No stuff worth reading before 1974?

There is in the midst of the greatest stretch of comics in Batman history. Too many to list. I do agree about the ridiculous compulsion to read everything however. Just looking the back issue archivee and read what looks appealing.

As for Cubed just take his bucket hat and...*wham*

Fine, let's say 1972.

I admit, I picked a general year at random. Someone like Cubed wouldn't care about those books, though, partly because they were so long ago and partly because those stories were mostly not translated into other media. I have a feeling he'd mostly get into the 80s/90s stuff but nothing earlier. I mean I don't know, just a feeling.

"Under the Hood" is pretty worthless without "A Death In The Family" though. And actually, without most everything from 1987-1991, also. Jason's return lacks any punch at all if you haven't read all the books that show Batman actually dealing with Jason's death in the first place. "A Lonely Place Of Dying", for instance, is essential.

*myconius* · 12-12-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

What's Judgment on Gotham? The Dredd crossover?

yeah that was the very first Batman/Judge Dredd cross-over with art by Simon Bisley.

Spoiler:

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-12-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Fine, let's say 1972.

I admit, I picked a general year at random. Someone like Cubed wouldn't care about those books, though, partly because they were so long ago and partly because those stories were mostly not translated into other media. I have a feeling he'd mostly get into the 80s/90s stuff but nothing earlier. I mean I don't know, just a feeling.

"Under the Hood" is pretty worthless without "A Death In The Family" though. And actually, without most everything from 1987-1991, also. Jason's return lacks any punch at all if you haven't read all the books that show Batman actually dealing with Jason's death in the first place. "A Lonely Place Of Dying", for instance, is essential.

It is indeed. But "A Death in the Family" is rather dated, what with Joker being the Iranian ambassador, et al. It's still good, just dated.

*Allio* · 12-12-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Kotaku has an article about the comic, its very possitive.
http://kotaku.com/the-batman-teenage...pri-1747555911

I shall now judge you for using such a site.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-12-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Allio

I shall now judge you for using such a site.

Judge not, lest Dredd come and judge you.

~~Leo656~~ · 12-12-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

It is indeed. But "A Death in the Family" is rather dated, what with Joker being the Iranian ambassador, et al. It's still good, just dated.

That sh*t will never not be hilarious.

I admit, there is some "You had to be there" in it. But trust me, it's wonderful.

Plus, all comics eventually become "dated", to some degree. No matter how you try, contemporary topics, politics, fashions, and trends sneak their way in as the writer tries to create a fictionalized world that's still recognizable as similar to the reader's own. That's just the way it goes, I kind of don't think you can take points off a story for it. Especially a good story.

*CyberCubed* · 12-12-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Fine, let's say 1972.

I admit, I picked a general year at random. Someone like Cubed wouldn't care about those books, though, partly because they were so long ago and partly because those stories were mostly not translated into other media. I have a feeling he'd mostly get into the 80s/90s stuff but nothing earlier. I mean I don't know, just a feeling.l.

The type of Batman I like is one that isn't too dark but isn't too campy either. Sort of similar to the Batman in the movies or B:TAS cartoon. I don't like, "dark and crazy Batman" and I don't care for campy/silly Batman either.

There needs to be the right balance between the two that let's me enjoy it. Same for the villains and the other characters. Judging by comics its either one extreme in dark/brooding violence or too campy and silly.

Also I don't care for any Justice League or superhero team up stuff in comics either, I prefer Batman and his sidekicks in Gotham City. Once you start putting Batman into space or fighting supervillains alongside Superman/Wonder Woman, etc. I sort of lose interest.

*MikeandRaph87* · 12-12-2015, 04:21 PM

Leo, you pushed my Batman buttons.

I love 1969-1984 Batman more than any other period. It is the basis of Batman: TAS which partially defines Batman for me. If he favors Batman: TAS this era may be something Cubed needs to explore more of. Not Brave and the Bold or World's Finest, but definitely rhe teo Batman centric books. Don’t get me started on how Jason Todd is my all-time least favorite comic book character. More of that era needs to be collected.

I agree that all three Year Ones, Batman, Robin, and Batgirl. Some of the best Batman related stories ever written.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-12-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The type of Batman I like is one that isn't too dark but isn't too campy either. Sort of similar to the Batman in the movies or B:TAS cartoon. I don't like, "dark and crazy Batman" and I don't care for campy/silly Batman either.

There needs to be the right balance between the two that let's me enjoy it. Same for the villains and the other characters. Judging by comics its either one extreme in dark/brooding violence or too campy and silly.

Also I don't care for any Justice League or superhero team up stuff in comics either, I prefer Batman and his sidekicks in Gotham City. Once you start putting Batman into space or fighting supervillains alongside Superman/Wonder Woman, etc. I sort of lose interest.

Cubed, I think you and I have the exact same taste in Batman.

spookycookies · 12-13-2015, 06:06 AM

I have not bought a DC single issue in about 3 years or so, (TMNT take up my entire comic budget.) Man I was really pulled out of the story by the constant advertisements. I'm sure I'll get used to them because there is no way they are going anywhere but it sure was different from the TMNT books I'm accustomed to.

*myconius* · 12-14-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

That sh*t will never not be hilarious.

I admit, there is some "You had to be there" in it. But trust me, it's wonderful.

Plus, all comics eventually become "dated", to some degree. No matter how you try, contemporary topics, politics, fashions, and trends sneak their way in as the writer tries to create a fictionalized world that's still recognizable as similar to the reader's own. That's just the way it goes, I kind of don't think you can take points off a story for it. Especially a good story.

this it too true!!!
that's why it drives me nuts when some comic writers drop flavor of the week celebrity names in their comics!!!

it's like - "DUDE! don't you know that nobody will care about _______ in a month from now???"

Mutant Ninja Anole · 12-15-2015, 09:18 AM

Reading this suddenly makes me realize the battle I'm really waiting for is Batman vs Shredder.

RaphaelsIsolation · 12-15-2015, 09:30 AM

This is about the TMNT/Batman crossover right? lol

So I read the first issue, and I really enjoyed it. My favorite pages were the 1st appearance of the TMNT where the scientist is like "red, blue, purple, orange" and it shows them in the dark.

The Shredder/Batman confrontation was really need.

Did he slash that pipe to make steam? I wasn't really clear on that panel... I guess that is what happened.

The art was amazing, so was the coloring. The look of the book is just fantastic. A+ on that. The writing and all that was great too.

It is just 1 issue of 6 total, but the 1st issue came off like a teaser kinda to me, but then again I guess it is supposed to right?

Looking forward to #2 very much. (buy the issues people, don't wait around for the trade)

*myconius* · 12-15-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutant Ninja Anole

Reading this suddenly makes me realize the battle I'm really waiting for is Batman vs Shredder.

i really can't wait to see Batman vs Shredder myself!!!
hopefully this does well and we get to see another cross-over with the Ninja Turtles vs. The Joker???

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Originally Posted by RaphaelsIsolation

Did he slash that pipe to make steam? I wasn't really clear on that panel... I guess that is what happened.

Looking forward to #2 very much. (buy the issues people, don't wait around for the trade)

that panel in question, the Shredder threw a smoke pellet.

i couldn't agree more about not waiting for the trade!!!
this series is definitely worth getting the single issues!

and i did notice that DC is also using a heavier stock paper than they normally use for single issues.
that was a concern of mine being that IDW wasn't going to be publishing this mini.

12-12-2015, 02:54 PM	#84
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	No stuff worth reading before 1974? There is in the midst of the greatest stretch of comics in Batman history. Too many to list. I do agree about the ridiculous compulsion to read everything however. Just looking the back issue archivee and read what looks appealing. As for Cubed just take his bucket hat and...wham __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

12-12-2015, 04:21 PM	#94
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,189	Leo, you pushed my Batman buttons. I love 1969-1984 Batman more than any other period. It is the basis of Batman: TAS which partially defines Batman for me. If he favors Batman: TAS this era may be something Cubed needs to explore more of. Not Brave and the Bold or World's Finest, but definitely rhe teo Batman centric books. Don’t get me started on how Jason Todd is my all-time least favorite comic book character. More of that era needs to be collected. I agree that all three Year Ones, Batman, Robin, and Batgirl. Some of the best Batman related stories ever written. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon! Last edited by MikeandRaph87; 12-12-2015 at 04:27 PM.

12-15-2015, 09:18 AM	#98
Mutant Ninja Anole Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: USA Posts: 591	Reading this suddenly makes me realize the battle I'm really waiting for is Batman vs Shredder. __________________ My stupid Tumblr

12-12-2015, 01:47 PM	#82
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	I've always wanted to get into Batman comics but just don't have the money or time. If the TMNT franchise never existed then Batman would probably be my #1 franchise. I'd probably be posting on some Batman forum right about now instead. I'd love to get more into X-men too, but alas. I've watched all the cartoons and movies with them at least, and many of the videogames so I know the lore.

12-12-2015, 02:38 PM	#83
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It's so frustrating to me that you think "getting into comics" means having to read every single thing ever published. I get that it's a thing TMNT fans do, because it's a much smaller scale, it's a finite thing that can be collected to completion, but even then it's kind of stupid because only about 1/3 of ALL the TMNT comics ever produced are even worth reading. I've told you, if you want to get into Batman comics I can get you there really easy. You don't have to be a sadist like me and try and own "everything". Such roads lead to madness. For starters, there were NO Batman comics published before 1974 that were even worth reading so don't even worry about them. See? That mountain in your head just got a whole lot smaller already. Everything else worth reading is reprinted in cheap TPBs. You keep making dumb excuses and I'ma smack you, and that's not a thing you want.

12-13-2015, 06:06 AM	#96
spookycookies Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NEPA Posts: 572	I have not bought a DC single issue in about 3 years or so, (TMNT take up my entire comic budget.) Man I was really pulled out of the story by the constant advertisements. I'm sure I'll get used to them because there is no way they are going anywhere but it sure was different from the TMNT books I'm accustomed to.

12-15-2015, 09:30 AM	#99
RaphaelsIsolation Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 392	This is about the TMNT/Batman crossover right? lol So I read the first issue, and I really enjoyed it. My favorite pages were the 1st appearance of the TMNT where the scientist is like "red, blue, purple, orange" and it shows them in the dark. The Shredder/Batman confrontation was really need. Did he slash that pipe to make steam? I wasn't really clear on that panel... I guess that is what happened. The art was amazing, so was the coloring. The look of the book is just fantastic. A+ on that. The writing and all that was great too. It is just 1 issue of 6 total, but the 1st issue came off like a teaser kinda to me, but then again I guess it is supposed to right? Looking forward to #2 very much. (buy the issues people, don't wait around for the trade)