Official TMNT 2 Trailer Discussion

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

There is literally, LITERALLY, a private invite-only group on this very forum for people who love(d) this garbage movie series. ONLY for them.

You cannot post in that group unless you get an invite, and I'm fairly positive you cannot even SEE posts in that group.

And that is STILL NOT ENOUGH for these friggin people. They have to try and force you to like this stupid, ass-movie(hyphen placement intentional), because if anybody doesn't like it an itch or pain gets set off in their brain that just bothers them SO MUCH.

That has to be the reason. I can't think of any other reason why they'd care SO MUCH that other people think this movie is/was total and complete trash.

Not to mention, I forget who it was, but someone who joined that group confessed publicly that it's REAL purpose was to talk sh*t about me and others in a place where I couldn't respond and make the sh*t-flinger look like a moron the way I always do. Supposedly they barely talk about the movie but they've got a lot of opinions about This Guy. Which is exactly what I said was going to happen.

So yeah, the problem REALLY is that the pro-movie people are just as big a bunch of douchebags as they say the "haters" are... bigger, really, they just hate the fact that on THIS forum, they're outnumbered. They cannot handle the fact that their favorite thing isn't held to the same esteem universally. They'll come into a thread full of "negativity" - where NO ONE is arguing, mind you, simply saying, one by one, "Yeah, I don't like this series" - and they'll pick a fight with the ENTIRE goddamn room over it. "You guys are all so negative!" And yet, nobody picked on "you" until you picked on "us". "You" put "Us" on the defensive, because you don't like being a minority. Tough crackers. Take your fawning to the Official Movie Facebook Page if you can't handle the fact that an overwhelming number of people don't like the movie. You're NOT going to come in and tell the majority to sit down and shut up, and f*ck you for even trying.

This place has always been for "hardcores". People who can take sh*t and give it out, all in the name of fun and spirited debate/discussion. It's not for everyone. Never was. Instead of a few whiny plebians trying to drag everyone else down to their level, those who are so easily offended by the temperature of the room should simply leave. Period. Just leave if you want an echo chamber where "Everything Is Awesome". This place is full of cynics. Deal with it or leave.

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Samxsteal, calm down, and stop fighting with everyone. It only causes more arguments.

Bry and Candy Kappa, stop instigating. You two are only making this situation worse.

Come on...

You're a boob punch, Missy. Exactly how many people have to tell you to stop backseat Modding before you get the hint already? People are sick of it. You'd get people to take you more seriously (and treat you more nicely) if you weren't such an apple-polishing Hall Monitor type.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Trailer was alright. Had this not been a sequel with baggage from a movie I loathe, and had better Creature Design for the Turtles, Splinter and some better outfits for the Foot Clan. I would have been onboard and bought an advanced screening ticket.

But, alas.

Yes, I agree. If the last movie had never existed and this was the first one they made, I would be super stoked. However, I'm scared because this trailer showed that it's possible that this could be a better movie but the baggage from last time has me skeptical. I don't even mind different designs as long as the movie is solid, but a bad movie on top of bad designs makes me think "meh"

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

Yes, I agree. If the last movie had never existed and this was the first one they made, I would be super stoked.

That would have been better, for sure. Even though this new one looks like it's own kind of crummy, it'd be less crummy if it wasn't trying to build on top of the last one.

Nothing saves those awful character designs though. Or April. Or "Casey". Or... okay, nevermind. But yeah, the newer one would be better if it weren't carrying on the last one's awful "legacy".

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

Turtle trailer?

I thought it was fun! The Run DMC song put a big cheesin' grin on my face, as did the B&R banter. I never thought I would chuckle at Fenwick in a TMNT movie, but I love the hell out of Will Arnett in this. I'll be there opening night with a belly full of pizza and Shiner Bock. My expectations will be firmly in line with this being a Michael Bay movie adaptation of a late-80s children's cartoon-- pretty low. I would have lost my damn mind seeing Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady in a big-budget TMNT movie in 1991.

[Leo656]

This is the thing though:

You're giving them your money. You're ensuring we never get anything BETTER than this, because you don't care if it's good or not and are willing to reward the filmmakers for their bad decisions. In the name of "fun", of course.

I can't forgive you. I'm sorry. You're probably a nice person but you're implicitly aiding and abetting the pillaging of the franchise and I can't forgive you for it. If your expectations are that low, then please, wait for the DVD, or better, for it to hit cable.

Please, if you KNOW it's going to be bad, and it sounds like you do, then please, STOP rewarding them. I say this to you and everyone else who's using "Well, it's gonna be bad, buuuuuuut...." NO. There IS no "but", just DON'T GO. It's the only way they'll ever make a GOOD movie out of this increasingly-vapid franchise, if you all STOP paying them for garbage, all because you want a fun, nostalgia-feuled night out. Stop being selfish and look at the Big Picture: Your fun little nostalgia trip is throwing dirt on the corpse of the brand.

Just get some friends and go to f*cking Chuck E Cheese. Damn.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Josh Appelbaum
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0032227/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

Andre Nemec
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0625858/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

Evan Daugherty
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2489193/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr3

The first two worked on a bunch of tv shows I've never heard of,

Life on Mars is awesome. The UK series is anyway, I can't speak for the US version.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by Leo656

This is the thing though:

You're giving them your money. You're ensuring we never get anything BETTER than this, because you don't care if it's good or not and are willing to reward the filmmakers for their bad decisions. In the name of "fun", of course.

I can't forgive you. I'm sorry. You're probably a nice person but you're implicitly aiding and abetting the pillaging of the franchise and I can't forgive you for it. If your expectations are that low, then please, wait for the DVD, or better, for it to hit cable.

Please, if you KNOW it's going to be bad, and it sounds like you do, then please, STOP rewarding them. I say this to you and everyone else who's using "Well, it's gonna be bad, buuuuuuut...." NO. There IS no "but", just DON'T GO. It's the only way they'll ever make a GOOD movie out of this increasingly-vapid franchise, if you all STOP paying them for garbage, all because you want a fun, nostalgia-feuled night out. Stop being selfish and look at the Big Picture: Your fun little nostalgia trip is throwing dirt on the corpse of the brand.

Just get some friends and go to f*cking Chuck E Cheese. Damn.

Not necessarily. I gave my money to the three Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies as well as the Fantastic Four, Hulk, and Star Wars prequels. Nowadays, they get to go online and see what people like and don't like and they make changes accordingly. This trailer looks like they definitely read the fan and critic feedback and tried to give us something more Turtle-like. Sure, it would be better if they just started over, but the critic and fan reviews will drive the franchise more than just the money. IMO

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Leo656

This is the thing though:

You're giving them your money.

Come on, you know what happens when you assume!

I have clients that run pre-movie advertising and we get tons of free passes to local theaters. My girlfriend works at a magazine and also gets passes. I doubt I'll have to pony up any dough to see it. Now if Vanilla Ice is on the soundtrack, I might lay out a few bucks there...

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by THGhost

Life on Mars is awesome. The UK series is anyway, I can't speak for the US version.

US version was terrible.

Originally Posted by d_osborn

Come on, you know what happens when you assume!

I have clients that run pre-movie advertising and we get tons of free passes to local theaters. My girlfriend works at a magazine and also gets passes. I doubt I'll have to pony up any dough to see it. Now if Vanilla Ice is on the soundtrack, I might lay out a few bucks there...

The laissez-faire attitude isn't winning you friends.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

US version was terrible.

Just as I assumed.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

The laissez-faire attitude isn't winning you friends.

I'm probably not going to miss any sleep over it.

What is it about a bigger budget and live action that brings out the rage? The Imagi movie didn't get near this amount of vitriol, and it was terrible! The Platinum Dunes movie was going to suck since day 1, but the Imagi movie had actual promise at first. Maybe I just put it out of my mind.

You know, one thing REALLY cool about this movie that no one really brings up is that it actually shoots in NYC. Even soundstage work. I have a huge respect for that, as it's pretty expensive. The Barron movie shot there for only a few days.

[Leo656]

Yeah, great, good job doin' what they're supposed to do.

There's definitely something to be said for "Some things are easier to swallow in a cartoon than in live action." It's universally accepted but nobody's entirely sure why. But the fact remains, the closer you get to "real life", the straighter you have to play it.

These guys want to play it both ways, and are always talking in equal measure about "Keeping things real" and yet "making a live-action cartoon", and you cannot do both of those things simultaneously. That's ONE of the most annoying things about the entire project.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

You know, one thing REALLY cool about this movie that no one really brings up is that it actually shoots in NYC. Even soundstage work. I have a huge respect for that, as it's pretty expensive. The Barron movie shot there for only a few days.

oh OH..! GOT ONE! Yeah ME!!! Pick me teacher!!!!

okay... yeah, so, um.... how bout what's REALLY really cool,
is when a fan isn't tossing off over their fandom with a playfully incredulous shrug.

Super nifty, yeah?

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

oh OH..! GOT ONE! Yeah ME!!! Pick me teacher!!!!

okay... yeah, so, um.... how bout what's REALLY really cool,
is when a fan isn't tossing off over their fandom with a playfully incredulous shrug.

Super nifty, yeah?

My fandom? I really have no idea what you're talking about here. Just because I label myself a fan doesn't mean I have to care about every iteration of the franchise. I love the two original movies, the first few issues of the comic, a few of the old video games, and I have fond memories of the Fred Wolf era. The new Nick toon is pretty cool, from what I've seen. Everything else isn't worth much more than a shrug to me. I'll discuss it here if the thread interests me, but otherwise Shrug City.

Then again, betting aside, I get perplexed when I see sports nuts get all bent out of shape when their fav team has a loss. People are different.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

I love the two original movies, the first few issues of the comic, a few of the old video games, and I have fond memories of the Fred Wolf era. The new Nick toon is pretty cool, from what I've seen. Everything else isn't worth much more than a shrug to me.

What about the 2K3 series?

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by THGhost

What about the 2K3 series?

I didn't mind the first few episodes. I was wrapping up college around then and didn't have a ton of time to watch it. The show looked to have gone downhill pretty hard after the first few seasons, from what I've seen on here. I would probably check it out again if it popped up on Netflix.

To add to the shrug stuff above, it does suck that not everything is gold with this franchise. It seems there has been way more bad than good. I would love if Nick had taken a token from the success of The Dark Knight and gone with a more dark Mirage tone. It sounds like things could have been a little better even with the Nick show. I don't let the franchise failings get me riled up, though. I consider myself lucky if I REALLY enjoy a movie now. Anything less and I just try to have fun with the theater experience.

I understand most of the complaints I read here about the new movie series. I just don't let it get me fired up. I enjoy reading the discussion here, both for TMNT and the crazy sociological shenanigans going down. It's almost the exact same on every forum I post on! Rabid debate and rage over a divided fanbase.Plus the comments can be pretty funny.

[THGhost]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

I didn't mind the first few episodes. I was wrapping up college around then and didn't have a ton of time to watch it. The show looked to have gone downhill pretty hard after the first few seasons, from what I've seen on here. I would probably check it out again if it popped up on Netflix.

I can sense Cubed running in here to defend the show's later seasons. The first 3-4 are great though, definitely worth checking out. You can find them on YouTube.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

I thought it was fun! The Run DMC song put a big cheesin' grin on my face, as did the B&R banter. I never thought I would chuckle at Fenwick in a TMNT movie, but I love the hell out of Will Arnett in this. I'll be there opening night with a belly full of pizza and Shiner Bock. My expectations will be firmly in line with this being a Michael Bay movie adaptation of a late-80s children's cartoon-- pretty low. I would have lost my damn mind seeing Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady in a big-budget TMNT movie in 1991.

Exactly and seeing all the little changes they've made and hearing the stuff the actors have been saying in interviews has me totally stoked. I love the turtles. I love bb & rs. I love the new foot. I like Amel. Like the new shredder.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

My fandom? I really have no idea what you're talking about here. Just because I label myself a fan doesn't mean I have to care about every iteration of the franchise. I love the two original movies, the first few issues of the comic, a few of the old video games, and I have fond memories of the Fred Wolf era. The new Nick toon is pretty cool, from what I've seen. Everything else isn't worth much more than a shrug to me. I'll discuss it here if the thread interests me, but otherwise Shrug City.

Then again, betting aside, I get perplexed when I see sports nuts get all bent out of shape when their fav team has a loss. People are different.

Again, this prideful aloof gag, it a'int endearing.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Again, this prideful aloof gag, it a'int endearing.

I never really set out to be endearing, so all systems normal, I guess.

However, what is completely endearing is the use of purple in your avatar and sig. It pops.