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Old 01-15-2016, 09:04 PM   #341
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I feel as if I no longer know you.... Horror is my bread and butter, man! I cut my teeth on Freddy, Chucky, and their ilk. Somehow I had the impression you liked scary movies.
I have a few exceptions, but nope, not really. Monster/supernatural Horror ain't my taste.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:27 PM   #342
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Nope. 9/10 times his work doesn't resonate with me. I like a lot of the broad strokes of his stories but it always fails to connect on an emotional level.

Even All-Star Superman was pretty ho-hum to me. Aside from that one page where the girl contemplates suicide. "You're stronger than you think you are." Great stuff there. But as a whole, his work feels like a chore to sit through. The Filth was once of the most defining examples of wasted time and money in my life. What an awful book.
I honestly didn't think so. Based on everything else you mentioned regarding your personal tastes in comics and characters, I just had a feeling you weren't a Morrison guy.

As a huge Superman fan I'm actually with you on All-Star. It definitely deserves praise, but it's overrated pretty damn hard. Grant leans WAY too hard on the Silver Age throttle for me, both in general and with Superman specifically. It's like, Crisis and Byrne's 1986 revamp "fixed" Superman by making all the corny, silly, goofy stuff go away, and whenever Grant writes him he does everything he can to try and cram all that dumb sh*t back in, like he's some kind of anti-evolutionist. The way he writes the character of Superman is always very strong, and All-Star had some GREAT character moments (although I will never, EVER be a fan of the "Bumbling Clark Disguise" again, after 25 years of being presented a more forceful, confident ace reporter rather than a goddamn clown). It's just that, for me, all that goofy Silver Age nonsense surrounding the character dragged that story down. Like Jimmy Olsen getting injected with the "Doomsday Virus", and all that Bizarro stuff. Less of that, more stuff like the girl on the ledge.

I give it a solid B. It's good but it's far from the "Best Superman Story Ever" like people like to say it is. I've talked to enough people about it to know for a fact that if you press them, most people who say such things will admit they've only read, at most, 3 or 4 Superman stories, and they mostly like the book because it reminds them of Chris Reeve. Which is fine. But the actual story has huge chunks of insipid nonsense taking up way too much room, and people would be more open to call bullsh*t on it if they knew better, or if anyone else wrote the thing.
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And who the hell doesn't like horror movies. F*cking hell.
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Old 01-16-2016, 09:21 AM   #343
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Somebody inspired by the fake romantic poster edited the film's trailer to look like a romance drama:



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Way to totally miss the point, fanboys.
Speak for yourself.
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Old 01-16-2016, 01:49 PM   #344
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I have a few exceptions, but nope, not really. Monster/supernatural Horror ain't my taste.
Aww, but you miss so many of the classics that way! Who doesn't love the old Universal monster movies, or the classic Hammer films, or the greats from the Masters of Horror like Carpenter, Craven, Romero, and Barker? I'd have thought that a fan of robotic "monsters" in sci-fi would appreciate the true icons of horror as well.


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Speak for yourself.

My thoughts exactly.
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Old 01-16-2016, 01:53 PM   #345
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Aww, but you miss so many of the classics that way! Who doesn't love the old Universal monster movies, or the classic Hammer films, or the greats from the Masters of Horror like Carpenter, Craven, Romero, and Barker? I'd have thought that a fan of robotic "monsters" in sci-fi would appreciate the true icons of horror as well.
Nah, not really. Although Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein... love that movie. But no, except for Doctor Who and my own writing, not a fan of monsters.

I've sort of wanted to watch Supernatural, but haven't started that yet. 11 seasons to marathon? Hell no... I've got too many shows on my list already, AND my spare time for writing is already a rare commodity.
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Supernatural is pretty good it early seasons, but I lost track and haven't watched it for the last few. I actually like Grimm better. It seems to deal more fairly with the "monsters" themselves, in showing that theyvhave lives of their own and most are not really evil.
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Old 01-16-2016, 05:16 PM   #347
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Supernatural is pretty good it early seasons, but I lost track and haven't watched it for the last few. I actually like Grimm better. It seems to deal more fairly with the "monsters" themselves, in showing that theyvhave lives of their own and most are not really evil.
Supernatural is still pretty good right now. I love Grimm too, probably more for the same reason you stated.
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Old 01-17-2016, 02:42 AM   #348
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Leo: Yeah man. I'm with you 100 percent on basically everything you said. Like, did we really need to spend an entire issue(or two!?) in Bizarro World? Too much nonsense. But I'm wondering what the connection is here from Morrison to Deadpool?

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I've sort of wanted to watch Supernatural, but haven't started that yet. 11 seasons to marathon? Hell no...
Great thing about Supernatural is you can just watch the first 5 seasons. It's really a self contained, well structured 5 story arc that ends on a satisfying note(well, if you ignore the last shoe-horned in 6 seconds... which you can actually leave up to interpretation.)

I'd actually argue this season is the strongest its been since those first 5 glorious seasons but thats not saying much. The writing simply hasn't been as strong since the creator left.
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The connection is that Grant Morrison often writes characters who break the fourth wall and are aware they are participating in an ongoing work of illustrated fiction, most famously during his run on Animal Man but he does it elsewhere, too. In that book one of his biggest "meta" moments was writing himself into the story and explaining to Animal Man that he was indeed just a fictional character being bent to the whims of his "Creator". Then there's all the stuff he put in Final Crisis, like the entire thing literally ending with a huge deus ex machina (Superman literally wishing for the story to have a Happy Ending, on a machine that manufactures miracles... only Morrison, folks!), and one of the Monitors explaining well in advance of the ending that of course Superman is absolutely going to save the day because his entire function as a fictional character is to be an unstoppable force for good who always wins no matter what. As well as several of the characters in "Limbo" during Final Crisis openly referencing the fact that they're all make-believe, only in Limbo because nobody had any good stories left to tell with them. And on and on.

So that's the connection. Based on your opinion of the character Deadpool, I just took a shot in the dark and assumed you were not a fan of the writings of Grant Morrison, either, since he leans heavy on the "meta-fictional" and fourth wall-breaking stuff as well. And I just wanted to know if I was correct.
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These trailers just get better and better!
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I think there's a few new shots in this trailer too:



I also found this amusing:

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Old 01-17-2016, 08:52 PM   #353
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I think there's a few new shots in this trailer too:



I also found this amusing:

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When I was a kid, I thought grown-up movies looked cool, too. My mom didn't write any petitions, though.
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:28 AM   #355
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That pretty much seals it then, no PG-13 version for Lil' Timmy. He shouldn't be interested in Deadpool at his age anyway.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...ina-due-856627

Bad for business, but probably a good sign for those of us hoping to see a film with some guts.
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He's not the movie's director, he's the character's co-creator. But... wow, I agree with Rob Liefeld.

I mean, I get that some parents want their kids to have everything they like. But some things just aren't for everybody, and shouldn't be, and that's fine.

It's like asking for a PG-13 cut of a Nightmare on Elm Street movie because your 8-year-old child wants to see it. That character and their world are intended to be violent and crass and specifically not for kids. Instead of demanding that everything change to suit your child's wishes, maybe use this as an opportunity to teach your kids that the world doesn't exist to suit their every desire, and some things you have to be patient for. The movie will still exist when he's older. In the meantime, there are a whole dang bunch of kid-appropriate comic movies coming out every year, so it's not like he's at a loss for options.
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I hope two things: One, that the movie is good. Two, that (if it's good) it makes oodles of money domestically.

Absolutely nothing against the International market or the Chinese market, but I also don't want every movie produced toned down or altered to suit their system.

I just hope that there's enough of a market in North America to support more diverse comic-movie releases.
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