Each Series' Contribution to TMNT as a Whole?

[TigerClaw]

Secret of the Ooze contributed to TMNT, because Tokka and Rahzar were added to the Fred Wolf cartoon cannon afterward, So they weren't just created for the movie, They also appeared as bosses in the TMNT arcade games.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

Unless you factor in that Hoag and the actor who played Raphael were dating at the time, and that actually influenced how their characters interacted in the movie.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Love the Punk Frogs. Wish more could be done with them.

Drako is from the 2003 cartoon. Professor Perry has not really had an impact beyond the one film. I love SotO, but I don't know if the movies really added much that carried over aside from Razhar and Tokka.

Actually Perry was also referenced in IDW. It was in the Donatello micro. So apparently he exists in that incarnation too! It was also rumored he was supposed to have been an Utrom originally, which would have connected him to the comic origin. I knew Draco was in 2K3, but wasn't sure if he had appeared in the comics first or not.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ***First of Two Latin Kings***

Unless you factor in that Hoag and the actor who played Raphael were dating at the time, and that actually influenced how their characters interacted in the movie.

Really? That's pretty cool... explains how they had such easy chemistry onscreen. The first shipping couple, probably.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I'd add Mona Lisa, Mondo Gecko, and the Frogs to the OT's contribution, Draco to Mirage(or was that 2K3?), and Professor Perry to the movies. Imagi added Max Winters and the Generals.

Mondo Gecko definitely; I kinda want to agree with Punk Frogs and Mona Lisa because I personally really like them and they showed up in Nick, but honestly, I'm not sure they're as memorable to most...

Drako, Perry, and Max Winters, though, are definitely not major contributions. Obscure characters, all of them.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Actually Perry was also referenced in IDW. It was in the Donatello micro. So apparently he exists in that incarnation too! It was also rumored he was supposed to have been an Utrom originally, which would have connected him to the comic origin.

Not rumored at all; Peter Laird has explicitly stated this was the original intention but they nixed it in OotS because they knew kids would mistake him for Krang.

[Powder]

The OT didn't create Mondo, Ryan Brown did, if I'm not mistaken, for Playmates.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Powder

The OT didn't create Mondo, Ryan Brown did, if I'm not mistaken, for Playmates.

So some characters actually debuted as toys before ever appearing in the OT?

[Powder]

Yeah, a few.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Powder

Yeah, a few.

Any others that you know of?

[MikeandRaph87]

Merdude and Muckman I know appeared in toy form a full year before their respective debut appearance occured. There could be others, but I associate Muckman with TMNT 1987 and Merdude with Archie. Pkaymates original line and rhe original cartoon were interwoven in some respect.

[Powder]

Yeah, there's also Mutagen Man, Chrome Dome, Antrax, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, & others. Basically, any character who actually looked like their toy, came after their toy.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Powder

Yeah, there's also Mutagen Man, Chrome Dome, Antrax, Dirtbag, Groundchuck, & others. Basically, any character who actually looked like their toy, came after their toy.

That's a pretty good way to put it--sounds like a lot of them!

[CyberCubed]

Its funny that despite the literally hundreds of characters in the TMNT universe, only a chosen few become staples of every series:

- Shredder, The Foot, Karai, Baxter, Mousers, Leatherhead, Rat King, Utroms/Krang/The Kraang, Triceratons, etc.

Sure they're not in every universe, but these ones I listed above tend to appear in almost all of them.

I think now we can also add Bebop/Rocksteady to the list too because they're in nearly all of them:

- Fred Wolf (original incarnations)
- Archie comics Bebop/Rocksteady
- 4kids original ones appeared in Turtles Forever
- Nick Bebop/Rocksteady
- IDW Bebop/Rocksteady
- Bay movies Bebop/Rocksteady


Hell if you count their cameo in one of the Mirage Tales of the TMNT issues...Bebop/Rocksteady also appear briefly in Mirage too. That was the issue with Cudley (so it was the Archie Bebop/Rocksteady in the panel)

[Technogeek29]

Armaggon is starting get more spot light, with his recent appearance in Mutant in Manhattan.

You guys have mentioned most of the heavy hitters from each version. Only ones I can think of are video game exclusive characters and those are very few.

Edit:Angel I haven't seen her listed.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ***First of Two Latin Kings***

Unless you factor in that Hoag and the actor who played Raphael were dating at the time, and that actually influenced how their characters interacted in the movie.

Did you just now make that up? Because that's complete bull sh*t. She's been married since 1988 and was never dating Pais at any point.

[sdp]

I guess Coming Out of the Shells tour has gotten referenced somehow in various universes by having the turtles pick up instruments of some kind for a quick gag and people still mention how the arcade version of Turtles in Time had Pizza Power in the intro. The Platinum Dunes version referenced the christmas special which wasn't COOTS but it was part of the whole "music" turles phase.

The first NES game's dam level is constantly referenced by gamers and made the Angry Video Game Nerd who he is today not sure if it's ever gotten a reference in any media. The two turtles arcade games have appeared in two different console generations after their original release.

Eric Sachs will soon appear in the new season of he Nick show (right before it's cancelled before it reachers 100 episodes) and will soon have a story arc on IDW where he becomes the new Shredder and is the final boss on the new Platinum Dunes game.

[CyberCubed]

Its always weird when we have redundant/interchangeable mutant characters:

- Alopex and Ninjara

- Slash and Tokka

- Bludgeon and Armaggon

- Verminator X and Old Hob

- Scumbug and Cockroach Terminator (Nick)


I mean along the way people started realizing they were making new characters based on already existing older characters, so they started turning new characters into old characters.

[DigificWriter]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Spinning out of my most recent posts on the Nick cartoon, I thought it would be fun to discuss what major characters or concepts each different take have added to the TMNT mythos as a whole...

Mirage: The Turtles and Splinter, Hamato Yoshi, Shredder, April and Casey, Leatherhead, Rat King, Utroms, Foot Clan, Renet, Baxter, Mousers, Triceratons, Shadow, Karai, Nobody

Fred Wolf: Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang, Technodrome, Robot Foot soldiers, Rock Soldiers, Tragg, Baxter the Fly, Slash, Dimension X, Channel 6 News, Metalhead

Films: Tokka, Rahzar

Next Mutation: Venus

Archie: Mutanimals, Ninjara

Image: Shredder's daughter, Raph with an eyepatch, crippled Donny

4Kids: Hun, Bishop, Earth Protection Force, Battle Nexus, Ch'rell, Ninja Tribunal

Nick: Kraang, Dogpound, Fishface, Karai as Splinter's daughter, Tiger Claw

IDW: Reincarnation, Casey's dad as Hun, Bludgeon, Koya, Alopex, Old Hob, Pantheon

Really, looking back, it's easy to see why Fred Wolf dominates: it had the most marketable toys. The TMNT seems to stand evenly distributed with its main two contributing bodies Fred Wolf and Mirage.

What do you think?

You forgot several things that the '87 cartoon, the films and Next Mutation added to the mythos (even if we haven't seen said things in any other iteration of the franchise):
'87 Cartoon (Fred Wolfe)
Lotus Blossom
Lord Dregg
Irma Langinstein
Carter
Mona Lisa
Zach
Neutrinos
Punk Frogs
Vernon Fenwick

Movies
Keno
Norinaga
Mitsu
Kenshin

Next Mutation
The Rank
Doctor Queese
Simon Bonesteel
Silver
Chung I
Andre

[Mr_riddler]

No one mentions to Traximus from the 4kids series, shame, he was a great character and a great contestant of the Battle Nexus. They even created a spiritual successor of Traximus in the 2012 nick tmnt series, Zeno the Undefeatable, but Traximus was first.

[miru]

Mirage V1 - Established the series. Included the Turtles, Splinter, Shredder, the Hamato Yoshi origin, the Foot, the Purple Dragons, April, Baxter, Casey, Karai, Leatherhead, Rat King, Fugitoid, Renet, Savanti Romero, Triceratons, and Utroms. Here the Turtles first met Usagi, a tradition carried through a few adaptations. Many storylines, like Northampton and City at War, started here.

1987 - Introduced a much lighter tone to the series, added Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, Fly-Baxter, Irma, Mona Lisa, Lord Dregg, Tragg, Punk Frogs, Neutrinos, and more. Dimension X and Channel 6 were also added. Served as the backbone for 90% of Turtles mass media, and the notochord of the Nick series and SOTO.

Playmates Toyline - Metalhead, Slash, Muckman, Mondo Gecko, Mutagen Man, Ray Fillet, Wingnut, Groundchuck & Dirtbag, Ace Duck, Pizzaface, Wyrm, Chrome Dome, Scaletail, and several vehicles.

1990 Movie - A return to the dark tone of the comics but not as gruesome/pretentious as them, popularized Casey.

Archie - The Mutanimal team concept, Ninjara, Armaggon, world travel and environmental issues, Slash as a hero.

SOTO - Hit the tonal "sweet spot" also used by the Nick series. Tokka and Rahzar.

TNM - Venus. That's about it. Maybe the vehicle-swap tradition.

2K3 - Hun, Bishop, Angel, Traximus (Zeno will probably be named Traximus by Mike), another return to the comic tone. The Battle Nexus and EPA.

IDW - Alopex, Old Hob, establishment of simultaneous dark and light TMNT media.

Nick - TigerClaw, Fishface, Pigeon Pete, use of the "sweet spot" tone.