Tragg is more powerful than Krang and Shredder?

Yabuturtle · 02-06-2016, 12:09 AM

Tragg is supposed to be a very tough opponent but he seems to be more powerful than the main villains themselves. Look at how many times the Turtles struggle against him. None of their weapons can even hurt him. Mike, Raph and Don all broke their weapons on him before like in the episode Rock Around the Block. Although I do find it strange that when his Rockalizer was destroyed, he immediately chickened out when before he was powerful enough to withstand their weapons. This is a guy who shrugged off bullet fire as well.

Shredder gets tossed aside and Krang even with his android body gets defeated easily most of the time. Leo's swords and other weapons can damage Krang but Tragg withstood it all. I guess if Krang grew giant, he'd overpower Tragg, but in the series it kind of implies Tragg is a much more dangerous opponent

*CyberCubed* · 02-06-2016, 02:55 AM

He gave the phrase, "rock hard abs" a new meaning.

I do wish the Turtles got some final battle with him though. The last time he appears is Season 8 informing Krang that the Technodrome was stuck in a black hole. I wish they got one last fight with him.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-06-2016, 10:23 AM

Tragg was pretty awesome; totally devoted to Krang, too.

"My Lord Krang! What has happened to your body!?"

That scene was pretty awesome.

*Wesley* · 02-06-2016, 11:06 AM

Tragg was a very powerful opponent aright. He was a badass, as he held his own against the Turtles in episodes like Usagi Yojimbo and Rock around the Block. I'm surprised that he only appeared rarely in the show and only fought the tmnt a few times over the course of the series. He could've been used more often. It was odd that Tragg panicked after his Rockilizer was destroyed. That took away some of his badass.

mikey22 · 02-06-2016, 12:16 PM

i agree 100%

i always liked trag as well. i wrote someone years ago on here i didnt like him panicking either when he lost the rock toy gun.. but oh well.

he definitely should have had another battle with the turtles. and where did the silver rock soldier go? he was only in season 1.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-06-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mikey22

i agree 100%

i always liked trag as well. i wrote someone years ago on here i didnt like him panicking either when he lost the rock toy gun.. but oh well.

he definitely should have had another battle with the turtles. and where did the silver rock soldier go? he was only in season 1.

Krang needed more lava rocks for his sauna, and Granitor had screwed up one time too many, so...

Yabuturtle · 02-06-2016, 05:16 PM

Ir's strange. You would think Krang would be the most dangerous enemy since he has a powerful body made of metal, can shapeshift his hands, and is also brilliant. If you count the video games, he has a host of abilities, like dismembering himself and attacking, flying, eye lasers, rockets coming out of his chest ect. AND he can turn into a giant. Which is strange because in Krangenstein Lives, his body could not only shrink but grow just like before. You would think he would grow every time he had to face the Turtles. Krang had his body cut in pieces by ninja weapons and was destroyed yet Tragg isn't effected by the Turtles' weapons at all.

But really, Tragg for some reason, seems to give the Turtles a harder time. I bet Tragg could even give the 2003 Turtles or even the Mirage Turtles a hard time as well. If Tragg is so dangerous it makes me wonder why he even takes orders from Krang and Shredder anyway. If you think about it, Krang should be the most dangerous enemy in all of the 1987 TMNT universe. When I first saw Tragg he was pretty tough. Bullets and ninja weapons didn't do anything to him so I was actually wondering how powerful Krang and his new android body would be. Tragg is already tough and he takes orders from Krang? Logically this should make Krang much more dangerous but in the fights, it seems like Tragg gives the Turtles a harder time than Krang or Shredder.

2K3 · 02-06-2016, 05:24 PM

I consider General Traag to be criminally underused in the classic series!

I wished he, Granitor and the Rock Soldiers were used more often!

*CyberCubed* · 02-06-2016, 05:29 PM

They're in IDW, even if they have no real personality in that series.

*Wesley* · 02-07-2016, 11:38 AM

Tragg was one of the most competent characters in the show as well. He captured the Neutrinos in Attack of the Neutrinos and managed to get the Technodrome out of a black hole in season 8. Oddly enough, the Rock Soldiers actually appeared more often in the series than Tragg himself.

Yabuturtle · 02-07-2016, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley

Tragg was one of the most competent characters in the show as well. He captured the Neutrinos in Attack of the Neutrinos and managed to get the Technodrome out of a black hole in season 8. Oddly enough, the Rock Soldiers actually appeared more often in the series than Tragg himself.

He seems to be the only one who gives the Turtles a tough time. None of the ninja weapons or bullets have any effect on him at all. Why does Tragg even take orders from Krang anyway? Krang has given the Turtles a tough time here and there but sometimes he's just pushed aside in fights. He was way more competent than Bebop and Rocksteady and way stronger. I wondered why he never hung around the Technodrome, but I guess Tragg was busy fighting wars in Dimension X or something.

But really I don't know why Tragg is depicted to be way stronger. Really, Krang should be stronger and more dangerous as you would think he would be since Tragg takes orders from Krang. I think the only incompetent thing Tragg did was running away from the Turtles when his Rockilizer was destroyed. I don't know why he was so worried, since none of the Turtle's weapons harmed him. I felt like he could have stood his ground a little longer than that. But there were some construction vehicles around the city which the Turtles used to destroy that larger rock monster, so maybe he was afraid the Turtles would get some bulldozers and crush him. That's my guess anyway.

*Wesley* · 02-07-2016, 02:46 PM

I don't know why Tragg takes orders from Krang. I wondered that myself and how Krang took command of an army of Rock Soldiers in the first place. Tragg was depicted as stronger than Shredder and Krang. He did make only rare appearances in the show, though, so maybe if Tragg had appeared more often, he mightn't have been so tough to beat, as the Turtles would have become more skilled at fighting him.

*CyberCubed* · 02-07-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley

I don't know why Tragg takes orders from Krang. I wondered that myself and how Krang took command of an army of Rock Soldiers in the first place.

Krang created the Rock Soldiers from mutating Dimension X rocks. They're loyal to him.

*ProactiveMan* · 02-08-2016, 11:50 PM

Tragg is mildly psychic too. In Hot-Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X, he says "Ah-ha, total chaos" seconds before he has even dialled it into the weather satellite.

02-06-2016, 12:09 AM	#1
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	Tragg is more powerful than Krang and Shredder? Tragg is supposed to be a very tough opponent but he seems to be more powerful than the main villains themselves. Look at how many times the Turtles struggle against him. None of their weapons can even hurt him. Mike, Raph and Don all broke their weapons on him before like in the episode Rock Around the Block. Although I do find it strange that when his Rockalizer was destroyed, he immediately chickened out when before he was powerful enough to withstand their weapons. This is a guy who shrugged off bullet fire as well. Shredder gets tossed aside and Krang even with his android body gets defeated easily most of the time. Leo's swords and other weapons can damage Krang but Tragg withstood it all. I guess if Krang grew giant, he'd overpower Tragg, but in the series it kind of implies Tragg is a much more dangerous opponent Last edited by Yabuturtle; 02-07-2016 at 12:49 AM.

02-06-2016, 10:23 AM	#3
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Tragg was pretty awesome; totally devoted to Krang, too. "My Lord Krang! What has happened to your body!?" That scene was pretty awesome. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-06-2016, 11:06 AM	#4
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	Tragg was a very powerful opponent aright. He was a badass, as he held his own against the Turtles in episodes like Usagi Yojimbo and Rock around the Block. I'm surprised that he only appeared rarely in the show and only fought the tmnt a few times over the course of the series. He could've been used more often. It was odd that Tragg panicked after his Rockilizer was destroyed. That took away some of his badass. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

02-07-2016, 11:38 AM	#10
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	Tragg was one of the most competent characters in the show as well. He captured the Neutrinos in Attack of the Neutrinos and managed to get the Technodrome out of a black hole in season 8. Oddly enough, the Rock Soldiers actually appeared more often in the series than Tragg himself. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

02-07-2016, 02:46 PM	#12
Wesley Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,597	I don't know why Tragg takes orders from Krang. I wondered that myself and how Krang took command of an army of Rock Soldiers in the first place. Tragg was depicted as stronger than Shredder and Krang. He did make only rare appearances in the show, though, so maybe if Tragg had appeared more often, he mightn't have been so tough to beat, as the Turtles would have become more skilled at fighting him. __________________ Donatello: The tracker! It might work. Donatello goes to the back of the Turtle Van Raphael: Shrewd move, Donatello. If we ignore the problem, it might go away by itself. (from The Mean Machines)

02-06-2016, 02:55 AM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	He gave the phrase, "rock hard abs" a new meaning. I do wish the Turtles got some final battle with him though. The last time he appears is Season 8 informing Krang that the Technodrome was stuck in a black hole. I wish they got one last fight with him.

02-06-2016, 12:16 PM	#5
mikey22 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: IL Posts: 682	i agree 100% i always liked trag as well. i wrote someone years ago on here i didnt like him panicking either when he lost the rock toy gun.. but oh well. he definitely should have had another battle with the turtles. and where did the silver rock soldier go? he was only in season 1.

02-06-2016, 05:16 PM	#7
Yabuturtle Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 602	Ir's strange. You would think Krang would be the most dangerous enemy since he has a powerful body made of metal, can shapeshift his hands, and is also brilliant. If you count the video games, he has a host of abilities, like dismembering himself and attacking, flying, eye lasers, rockets coming out of his chest ect. AND he can turn into a giant. Which is strange because in Krangenstein Lives, his body could not only shrink but grow just like before. You would think he would grow every time he had to face the Turtles. Krang had his body cut in pieces by ninja weapons and was destroyed yet Tragg isn't effected by the Turtles' weapons at all. But really, Tragg for some reason, seems to give the Turtles a harder time. I bet Tragg could even give the 2003 Turtles or even the Mirage Turtles a hard time as well. If Tragg is so dangerous it makes me wonder why he even takes orders from Krang and Shredder anyway. If you think about it, Krang should be the most dangerous enemy in all of the 1987 TMNT universe. When I first saw Tragg he was pretty tough. Bullets and ninja weapons didn't do anything to him so I was actually wondering how powerful Krang and his new android body would be. Tragg is already tough and he takes orders from Krang? Logically this should make Krang much more dangerous but in the fights, it seems like Tragg gives the Turtles a harder time than Krang or Shredder.

02-06-2016, 05:24 PM	#8
2K3 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cardiff Posts: 192	I consider General Traag to be criminally underused in the classic series! I wished he, Granitor and the Rock Soldiers were used more often!

02-06-2016, 05:29 PM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	They're in IDW, even if they have no real personality in that series.

02-08-2016, 11:50 PM	#14
ProactiveMan Spooky ghost Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Western Australia Posts: 2,266	Tragg is mildly psychic too. In Hot-Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X, he says "Ah-ha, total chaos" seconds before he has even dialled it into the weather satellite. __________________ ProactiveMan!