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~~Leo656~~ · 02-12-2016, 09:55 PM

I Spoiler'ed it because I thought it was appropriate...

Okay then.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-12-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I Spoiler'ed it because I thought it was appropriate...

Okay then.

Eh, we're grownups and we're discussing an episode that aired three days ago plus theories and comic sources.

If anyone's gonna complain about spoilers, they can piss off.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-12-2016, 10:06 PM

I agree, Spoilers are everyone's friends, I just didn't want to hear anyone bitch.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-12-2016, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I agree, Spoilers are everyone's friends, I just didn't want to hear anyone bitch.

They'll bitch at me, not you. And I'll give them a deadpan stare and possibly a "go screw yourself." This ain't "Kylo Ren kills his daddy Han", this is theorizing.

The point you make of Reverse Flash actually being Eobard Thawne does give me hope that they'll stay faithful to Hunter Zolomon, but honestly, to do him right would take a lot of focus which I frankly don't believe they have time for.

I predict Zoom as either pointless doppelganger like Earth-2 Henry Allen (ugh) or Earth-1 Eddie (I'll be okay with it), and then Season 3 with Gorilla Grodd and Hunter Zolomon as the main villains.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-12-2016, 10:24 PM

I think it works because I expect Hunter to suffer some unbearable tragedy and ask Barry to go back in time and "fix" it, like in the comics, and for Barry to refuse because of everything he's now learned from attempting such measures himself from Season One and beyond, so it actually flows really well, if they set it up right. Then you end up with Zoom's motivation being the self-appointed "Better Hero" who is willing to do anything to fix what he sees as injustice, where Barry and others set limits on how far they're willing to go, for moral reasons and otherwise.

I mean, they shouldn't rush it, you're right, but it's still a pretty poetic way to do things. I really hope they do. But I do have a strong feeling they'll fake everyone out first and maybe, as you said, have Zolomon become "the Real Zoom" in Season 3.

But I mean you can't have a guy with such a convenient alphabet soup-name like that and not make him Zoom. You just can't.

Just shift a few things around, move the L to the end and harden up the pronunciation on the last syllable, it goes from "Zolomon" to "Zoom, mon," to finally "Zoom, man!"

As in, "He's ZOOM, man!"

Like I said, even the comics kind of pointed out how convenient that was. Putting him in the show as a red herring would be a pointless waste, in my opinion.

*Bry* · 02-12-2016, 10:36 PM

Yeah... The idea that this season's events helps create the "real" E1 Zoom in Zolomon makes a lot of sense, I think. They get to throw a twist in with this Zoom, as Earth-2 has been extensively shown to be its own thing anyway, and they also get to do the comics-accurate thing with the E1 Zoom at the very end. Stopping that Zoom creates this Zoom. That's a solid theory, guys.

As for E2 Zoom... if it's gonna be a "twist" version before the "real" version, they might as well go with the heaviest possible emotional impact. I'm not saying Henry is the ideal choice, necessarily, but it could pack a punch. And, as a what-if...

Spoiler:

It's like the Zolomon tease. They have to do something more with that, right?

~~Leo656~~ · 02-12-2016, 10:46 PM

I'm not even caught up on this show, nowhere near it. I'm just glad that it's generally good and interesting consistently enough for us to be having these kinds of conversations at all.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-13-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bry

Yeah... The idea that this season's events helps create the "real" E1 Zoom in Zolomon makes a lot of sense, I think. They get to throw a twist in with this Zoom, as Earth-2 has been extensively shown to be its own thing anyway, and they also get to do the comics-accurate thing with the E1 Zoom at the very end. Stopping that Zoom creates this Zoom. That's a solid theory, guys.

As for E2 Zoom... if it's gonna be a "twist" version before the "real" version, they might as well go with the heaviest possible emotional impact. I'm not saying Henry is the ideal choice, necessarily, but it could pack a punch. And, as a what-if...

Spoiler:

It's like the Zolomon tease. They have to do something more with that, right?

That would be cool, I guess, but for me, there's no emotional punch to seeing a doppelganger. I know too much sci-fi--I'm over it.

*Foombamaroom* · 02-13-2016, 10:54 AM

The only doppelganger that works is Henry, the others seem kinda stupid.

What if Zoom takes off his mask and it's someone we don't know, and Barry's like, "Wait, who are you?" and he's just like, "You didn't expect to actually know me, did you?"

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-13-2016, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

The only doppelganger that works is Henry, the others seem kinda stupid.

What if Zoom takes off his mask and it's someone we don't know, and Barry's like, "Wait, who are you?" and he's just like, "You didn't expect to actually know me, did you?"

I would break every bone in my hand from applauding so hard. Seriously, if the whole "potential doppelganger from Earth-2" has been a massive feint, that is some of the cleverest television writing I've ever seen.

*Slade* · 02-13-2016, 11:19 AM

I can't believe you guys may have spoiled who Zoom might be! Unf*cking believable!!!!

Besides, we all know it's really going to be

Spoiler:

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-13-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Slade

I can't believe you guys may have spoiled who Zoom might be! Unf*cking believable!!!!

Besides, we all know it's really going to be

Spoiler:

I thought it was going to be Earth-2 Hot Wheels?

*Slade* · 02-13-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I thought it was going to be Earth-2 Hot Wheels?

Ha, what up with you and giving me Hot Wheels answers?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-13-2016, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Slade

Ha, what up with you and giving me Hot Wheels answers?

Eh, Hot Wheels is my least-favorite character on Arrow (only because Ray went to LoT) so she gets most of my verbal abuse.

I'm sorry you have to witness it.

*Slade* · 02-13-2016, 05:23 PM

Oh that Hot Wheels...

Spoiler:

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-13-2016, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Slade

Oh that Hot Wheels...

Spoiler:

Damn I miss that guy.

*Foombamaroom* · 02-14-2016, 12:43 AM

NO.
We will NOT talk about Arrow in this forum.
This is a place where we can rant about minor things and really appreciate the greatness of this show, rather than wallow in shame as we watch episodes of Arrow.

*Slade* · 02-14-2016, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

NO.
We will NOT talk about Arrow in this forum.
This is a place where we can rant about minor things and really appreciate the greatness of this show, rather than wallow in shame as we watch episodes of Arrow.

Guess you need a mirakuru too.

All these characters are in the same universe and have crossed over into each others shows. Hell, Zoom could be freakin' Slade Wilson for all you know.

Splinter the boss · 02-14-2016, 08:47 AM

Why does everybody think it's Eddie from earth 1. He shot himself and died a hero.

*Slade* · 02-14-2016, 08:57 AM

Think because Thawne is still alive. Show explained how, I didn't really follow though.

02-12-2016, 10:36 PM	#506
Bry So Long, Stinktown! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,463	Yeah... The idea that this season's events helps create the "real" E1 Zoom in Zolomon makes a lot of sense, I think. They get to throw a twist in with this Zoom, as Earth-2 has been extensively shown to be its own thing anyway, and they also get to do the comics-accurate thing with the E1 Zoom at the very end. Stopping that Zoom creates this Zoom. That's a solid theory, guys. As for E2 Zoom... if it's gonna be a "twist" version before the "real" version, they might as well go with the heaviest possible emotional impact. I'm not saying Henry is the ideal choice, necessarily, but it could pack a punch. And, as a what-if... Spoiler: Suppose E2 HenryZoom kills E2 Nora to further torture Barry? Which is... pretty gross and horrible, and not something I "want" to see. But I could definitely see that idea being pitched around in a writers' room somewhere. It's like the Zolomon tease. They have to do something more with that, right? __________________ My Stuff: Webcomic \| Podcast \| DeviantArt \| YouTube \| Patreon Last edited by Bry; 02-12-2016 at 10:43 PM.

02-13-2016, 11:19 AM	#511
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	I can't believe you guys may have spoiled who Zoom might be! Unfcking believable!!!! Besides, we all know it's really going to be Spoiler*: __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

02-13-2016, 05:23 PM	#515
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	Oh that Hot Wheels... Spoiler: __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

02-14-2016, 08:47 AM	#519
Splinter the boss Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA Posts: 938	Why does everybody think it's Eddie from earth 1. He shot himself and died a hero. __________________ "I am absolute, lower your head!"

02-14-2016, 08:57 AM	#520
Slade god status Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 3,291	Think because Thawne is still alive. Show explained how, I didn't really follow though. __________________ Do not concern yourself with what I've already done: rather tremble at the thought of what I am about to do. Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth. http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48140

02-12-2016, 09:55 PM	#501
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I Spoiler'ed it because I thought it was appropriate... Okay then.

02-12-2016, 10:06 PM	#503
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I agree, Spoilers are everyone's friends, I just didn't want to hear anyone bitch.

02-12-2016, 10:24 PM	#505
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I think it works because I expect Hunter to suffer some unbearable tragedy and ask Barry to go back in time and "fix" it, like in the comics, and for Barry to refuse because of everything he's now learned from attempting such measures himself from Season One and beyond, so it actually flows really well, if they set it up right. Then you end up with Zoom's motivation being the self-appointed "Better Hero" who is willing to do anything to fix what he sees as injustice, where Barry and others set limits on how far they're willing to go, for moral reasons and otherwise. I mean, they shouldn't rush it, you're right, but it's still a pretty poetic way to do things. I really hope they do. But I do have a strong feeling they'll fake everyone out first and maybe, as you said, have Zolomon become "the Real Zoom" in Season 3. But I mean you can't have a guy with such a convenient alphabet soup-name like that and not make him Zoom. You just can't. Just shift a few things around, move the L to the end and harden up the pronunciation on the last syllable, it goes from "Zolomon" to "Zoom, mon," to finally "Zoom, man!" As in, "He's ZOOM, man!" Like I said, even the comics kind of pointed out how convenient that was. Putting him in the show as a red herring would be a pointless waste, in my opinion.

02-12-2016, 10:46 PM	#507
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm not even caught up on this show, nowhere near it. I'm just glad that it's generally good and interesting consistently enough for us to be having these kinds of conversations at all.

02-13-2016, 10:54 AM	#509
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	The only doppelganger that works is Henry, the others seem kinda stupid. What if Zoom takes off his mask and it's someone we don't know, and Barry's like, "Wait, who are you?" and he's just like, "You didn't expect to actually know me, did you?"

02-14-2016, 12:43 AM	#517
Foombamaroom Lord of Cinder Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,646	NO. We will NOT talk about Arrow in this forum. This is a place where we can rant about minor things and really appreciate the greatness of this show, rather than wallow in shame as we watch episodes of Arrow.