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02-16-2016, 06:15 PM
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Shredder's Motivations
A lot of the Shredder's motivations appear to based on atrocities that *he* personally believes have been committed against him. While the real intention was not meant to be malicious in any way.
All we truly know about Oroku Saki is that he was a foundling child when the Hamato Clan destroyed the Foot Clan. Hamato Yuta...Splinter's father finds the infant Saki and raises him as his own son. Saki and Yoshi grow up a brothers and close friends until they meet Tang Shen. Saki had some relationship with Tang Shen, but something he does causes her to reject him and marry with Yoshi instead. As he does say "Tang Shen, please take me back. I am no longer the man you once knew." However Tang Shen still chooses to remain with Hamato Yoshi. Saki gets into a fight with his former adoptive brother. Tang Shen tries to stop them by getting between them and dies by Oroku Saki's hand. While all we have are fan theories and headcannon as to what could have possibly happened for much of this. There is still the issue of Saki's heal faced turn which seems to come out of nowhere. However from the sound of things for the Tales of the Yokai story. There were some things cut out for time and others that were cut for simply being too dark. One thing that was being implied was Hamato Yuta had an illness and was dying of said illness. Perhaps one of these cut scenes could have been Saki being called to Hamato Yuta's side and informed him of the truth of his origin. Even if was simply so he could pass on with no regrets.
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02-16-2016, 10:42 PM
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Despite the whole "Oh god I've been adopted by the clan that killed my family." angst. Saki made the choice to get revenge on the Hamato clan and take out some deep seeded jealousy he's had for Yoshi. As much as Shredder would like to believe that his circumstances are what made him the way he is, Yoshi has said that he's always been a plotting and scheming bastard, even before Tang Shen and the discovery of his origins. Shen probably saw this in him as well, but Saki seems to be in denial that he is just inherently a (insert mental disorder that makes you blame other people for your problems and nothing is your fault, here).
He is certainly an interesting head case to see spiral deeper into the empty void.
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I agree. I'm an avid reader of the game of thrones series and there is a character in the first book that reminds me of the Shredder and that is Viserys Targaryen. There are other characters that are similar to the Shredder as well and most of them meet a fitting end in one way or another such as Joffery. But Viserys does have some similarities to Oroku Saki. The Targaryen's are a house in the Game of Thrones universe. Due to the compound inbreeding within their line there is a level of madness with in at least half of them. Or as Queen Cersei so eloquently quips: "When a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin." Viserys and his sister Daenerys are exiled after their father is killed. Viserys arrogantly wants to return to Westeros to reclaim what he feels is his by right. And while ambitious, he is also impatient, delusional, and blind to reality. And when things aren't the way he wants them when he wants them he becomes quite abusive both to his younger sister and everyone else around him and even more so when he's drunk. This eventually leads to his downfall where is quite literally given a crown of melted gold. On the flip side however...Daenerys at first does want to reclaim the seven kingdoms as her birth right...but as her story continues and she becomes more aware of her families history she does begin to question if it's worth it as she had never truly known to land from which she had been exiled. A good portion of Shredder's anger stems from jealousy much in the same way Raph does. Raph see's himself as always being in Leonardo's shadow, which is why he is aggressive. It's as though he feels that if he doesn't show aggression he isn't noticed. For example In the Tales of the Turtle Lair comic on the nick site. The Turtles have to face off against a Tengu in order to gain the title of ninja. In Raph's trial there is a point where the Tengu says "Give up now. There is no way for you to beat me. I am your better in every way. Much like your older brother." And from there it transitions to this flash back. Quote:
At in riddle of the Ancient Aeons, Raph says "Everyone knows your Splinter's favorite!" To Leo. In the Flashback to Splinter and Shredder's childhood. We know the two of them were raised as brothers and were rivals in all things. Spoiler:
While we know that Saki was welcomed into Yuta's household at least. But that doesn't entirely extend to other members of the clan who may have felt that Saki didn't belong. Not fully knowing the reason for this distrust, he would have felt some jealousy that Yoshi must some how be better then him. Then when he learned the truth of his origin...he is so bitter and angry about it he refuses to hear anything else. In his mind he feels as though everything he knew...everything he thought was real was all a lie.
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