Batman V. Superman: Dawn Of Justice

[Commenter 42]

A hamburger should be a hamburger; Ice cream is ice cream.
It's obvious. This isn't day vs night; this is Sappy vs Angry.

When the best thing about Batman V Superman is Wonder Woman... well, why bother with the title at all?

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

This part of this post is making my insides crawl and I just can't not mention it. Why do you seem to think your opinion is fact? Why are you trying to pass it off that way just because to you, movies are work and not just a hobby?

Or this is just a blatant display of how you may be in the industry, but you certainly haven't been in it for very long with that sort of behaviour. Like as if boasting about it [in a subtle way so it doesn't get detected as easily] will get people to listen to you more because, again, it's not just a hobby at this point, it's your work. You said it yourself.

Okay, carry on. I just wanted to put this down on the table so everyone can see it.

It's a response to Leo, claiming I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm sorry if you felt I was bragging, but then again, I'm not. I busted my f*cking ass to be who I am and get where I am, and I'm proud as hell of it. It took half my life.

If I were a cop, would you say the same thing? I'm not saying my opinion is more important, I'm saying, it's justified.

[Krutch]

I'm not speaking on behalf of C-42, as he's the one who wrote that, but he's actually correct in my experience at least. All my coworkers and old film school mates seem to shred apart Man of Steel and the only people I've met who genuinely enjoy the movie haven't gone to film school or work in the industry.

The reason I brought up I'm in film was to say that, unlike movies which are subjective to taste, a script can actually be critiqued as a craft. There are rules it needs to adhere to in order to function correctly. I studied story structure for years and am making a career out of it, so I feel like I have a little credibility in saying that Man of Steel is a broken script.

I wasn't bringing it up for no reason I was just offering where my perspective comes from

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

A hamburger should be a hamburger; Ice cream is ice cream.
It's obvious. This isn't day vs night; this is Sappy vs Angry.

When the best thing about Batman V Superman is Wonder Woman... well, why bother with the title at all?

Because boys won't watch things with girl names.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Because boys won't watch things with girl names.

also



and one more

[Candy Kappa]

I just wanna see men and women in tight spandex beat each other up in back alleys.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I just wanna see men and women in tight spandex beat each other up in back alleys.

Too bad leathers not your thing or I'd recommend watching the CW

[Candy Kappa]

Leather is a good substitute despite it's over use in Singer's X-men movies.

Arrow, Flash and Legends is good fun. The CW Angsty Teen Drama can be a bit too much at times, but I muscle through.

[Commenter 42]

I can't get through anything on the CW, but I gotta admit, King Shark was very impressive, if brief. I really loved that design and scale. PDMT wishes it looked that good; ultra impressive on a microbudget.

Somebody deserves a golden cookie for that.

[Netkeeper]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

If I were a cop, would you say the same thing? I'm not saying my opinion is more important, I'm saying, it's justified.

I don't really know how to answer this, because if you were a cop my behaviour would be far different due to previous traumatic experiences. Not a good example in my particular case.

Not that I really understand why it's relevant, since cops are nothing like film industry workers. Unless you're trying to say cops have credible authority on Batman or Superman, which is a hilarious thought but I'm reasonably sure isn't what you're saying!

Originally Posted by Krutch

I'm not speaking on behalf of C-42, as he's the one who wrote that, but he's actually correct in my experience at least. All my coworkers and old film school mates seem to shred apart Man of Steel and the only people I've met who genuinely enjoy the movie haven't gone to film school or work in the industry.

The reason I brought up I'm in film was to say that, unlike movies which are subjective to taste, a script can actually be critiqued as a craft. There are rules it needs to adhere to in order to function correctly. I studied story structure for years and am making a career out of it, so I feel like I have a little credibility in saying that Man of Steel is a broken script.

I wasn't bringing it up for no reason I was just offering where my perspective comes from

Okay, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to enjoy it at all. Something can be broken and have a ******** of flaws but people are still allowed to like it. And guess what? I liked Man of Steel. A lot. And I don't like Superman.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

Okay, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to enjoy it at all. Something can be broken and have a ******** of flaws but people are still allowed to like it. And guess what? I liked Man of Steel. A lot. And I don't like Superman.

Maybe you skipped my big rant about everyone having the right to like or dislike what they want earlier(and I wouldn't blame you if you did). You can like the movie as much as you want. Hell, you can enjoy the script as much as you like. You're completely within your right to do so. The enjoyment factor is not what i'm getting at since thats completely subjective person to person.

But you can, objectively, look at a script and tell if its strong or not by judging it's merits. How it handles character motivations, if it has plot holes, inconsistencies, continuity errors, whether or not theres pathos, how the story is structured, how the themes they are trying to address are incorporated into the story....so many of these things you can actually say if they got right or wrong, since they aren't subjective to taste.

(To be clear, I'm not bashing anyone for liking Man of Steel. Or Deadpool. Or Twilight. Or Mr Holland's Opus. Just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's not enjoyable to someone out there )

[CyberCubed]

Krutch where in the film industry do you work? You said you work for some TV show? I'm curious since you bring it up here.

[Krutch]

Check your inbox

[myconius]

i've been really looking forward to this film for a long time.
i trust Zack Snyder's sense of cinematography, and know we'll get an action packed movie.

i'm not really worried about Ben Affleck being cast as Batman. my only real concern is seeing David S. Goyer as a co-writer.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Netkeeper

I don't really know how to answer this, because if you were a cop my behaviour would be far different due to previous traumatic experiences. Not a good example in my particular case.

Not that I really understand why it's relevant, since cops are nothing like film industry workers. Unless you're trying to say cops have credible authority on Batman or Superman, which is a hilarious thought but I'm reasonably sure isn't what you're saying!


Okay, but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to enjoy it at all. Something can be broken and have a ******** of flaws but people are still allowed to like it. And guess what? I liked Man of Steel. A lot. And I don't like Superman.

I think you may want to re-read your response. The inference was clear, and you're intentionally being obstinate.

Sorry, my dance cards full.

[myconius]

....day verses night

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by myconius

....day verses night

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ginuVD2oGJ...Slap+Fight.gif

Pretty much.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll see how it goes. My prob with MOS is that they tried too hard to Nolanize Superman instead of just letting Superman be himself.

BVS is a mess they keep adding on to. It went to being a sequel to MOS, to a Batman movie (cause basically everyone is really going to see it just for Batman) to now a wannabe Justice League movie. And I'm glad the script is finished cause it felt like they kept piling on more and more characters every other week. Still not a fan of Doomsday being a Zod clone. Yes, I know Doomsday is technically a clone of Kryptonian DNA... but he was never Zod. And he never looked like Bio Brolly either... Still don't see how Batman can do anything to Superman without Kryptonite, even in the comic Green Arrow hit him with a Kryptonite arrow to help out. Is the movie somehow gonna cram the discovery and explanation of Kryptonite in an already busy-as-all-hell movie? Also not a fan of 'Jim Carrey was too busy to play him' Lex Luthor either.

And I'm glad Wonder Woman is finally hitting the big screen, even though they prove they still can't do a Wonder Woman movie right (apparently they've been trying for years to work out some way to give her a movie)... so let's put her in a Batman movie and hope the fans want to see her in a potential solo movie at last.

I still see this movie as a sloppy rush to catch up with the Avengers. They turned a Superman Sequel, to a Batman VS movie, to a pre-Justice League movie, all to catch up with the Avengers.

The latest trailer does look sweet though. Maybe I'll be proven wrong. But I still see it as too many cooks in the kitchen.

Still curious how Suicide Squad fits into all this. Will that take place in modern day with a Batman in his prime, while BVS takes place more in the future with the aged Batman? They keep saying Suicide Squad fits in with this new continuity but I don't know how.

[Amaranthus]

I hate you guys.

[myconius]

what's funny is when i first posted this epic battle of the titans here-



i should have elaborated with -

Day vs. Night

Geek vs. Geek

those who are exited to see the movie vs. those just looking to troll on the movie.

in all honesty i was not at all happy with the choice for Ban Affleck when it was first announced. but i'm not going to lie, i was planning on seeing the movie anyway cuz i LOVE Batman!
i've seen every single live-action Batman Movie in the theatre since the 1989 Tim Burton film, so seeing BvS is just a given.

now i didn't exactly love MoS when i saw it in the theatre, but i did find it very entertaining.

there's certain aspects of this BvS movie that i'm not 100% thrilled with, BUT i am really looking forward to seeing this movie in the theatre!
more than likely twice on opening weekend, and maybe even again the following weekend if it's really good?

there have been plenty of recent movies that have come out that tons of people love while i on the other-hand absolutely hated!
but i'm not going to waste my time and energy going into explicit detail of what i hated about it.

number one- if i don't like it, why think about it?

and number two- i've got much better things to do with my day.

some people just enjoy the misery.