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Old 02-14-2016, 09:11 AM   #521
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I'll take it. I was also lost with the whole “ Thawne is still alive " thing, guess that's why.
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Old 02-14-2016, 09:14 AM   #522
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What? Eddie Thawne isn't still alive on Earth-1.

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Old 02-14-2016, 10:41 AM   #523
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What? Eddie Thawne isn't still alive on a Earth-1.
I believe Splinter is referring to Eobard Thawne, not Eddie.

Anyway, I don't buy that Zoom is Eddie from E-1. For one thing, he appeared on the scene around the same time Jay did after he got his powers. Eobard Thawne is probably only still remembered due to Speed Force shenanigans. At least according to Wikipedia:

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Eobard's origin story is revealed, and it is explained that he still exists, despite Eddie's sacrifice, due to time remnants of the Speed Force forever protecting him and linking to the timeline.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:01 AM   #524
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I'm fine with Eddie Thawne forever being a sacrificed hero who went out like a noble badass.

I do expect the show to bring him back at some point, though, ala Cobalt Blue or something.

And I totally want to see Barry go up against Slade Wilson. Zoom is Slade Wilson, I want it and I want it NOW.
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:49 PM   #525
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That would be f*cking awesome!!
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:58 PM   #526
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That would be f*cking awesome!!
Slade Wilson, a Speedster, with his swords.

He could decapitate and disembowel a crowd in SECONDS...
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:45 PM   #527
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Who is the man in the iron mask?!

Jay Garrick?
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Old 02-16-2016, 10:48 PM   #528
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So glad we got to see more of Zoom in this episode. Can't wait for King Shark next week.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:01 PM   #529
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Who is the man in the iron mask?!

Jay Garrick?
I think it's Ferro Lad from the LOSH... But I haven't seen any confirmation.
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Old 02-17-2016, 09:12 AM   #530
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Hell of a cliffhanger!

Man, Jay Garrick is so untrustworthy... always disappears when Zoom is causing havoc, he showed up before Zoom ever did... and now the man in the metal mask is urgently trying to communicate some warning about Jay!?

So finally, while we still have nothing except "Zoom need speed", at least we're finally getting a definite roadmap for the rest of the season:
  • Find a way to reopen a single breach (or alternate method of dimensional traveling)
  • Return to Earth-2 and rescue Jay Garrick and the Man in the Metal Mask
  • The Man in the Metal Mask's identity will conclusively point towards Zoom's identity
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:00 AM   #531
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What if the man in the mask is Jay....

And the Jay that's been running around is actually Zolomon. Maybe some kind of accident split Zolomon and Zoom and caused Zolomon to think he's Jay and now Zoom needs to get him back so he can have even more speed.

I'm just spit balling.

Jay Garrick is older and the guy in the mask looked older. Isn't he a military man as well? Wasn't that what they where using last night? Some kind of military alphabet? Can't recall.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:21 AM   #532
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What if the man in the mask is Jay....

And the Jay that's been running around is actually Zolomon. Maybe some kind of accident split Zolomon and Zoom and caused Zolomon to think he's Jay and now Zoom needs to get him back so he can have even more speed.

I'm just spit balling.

Jay Garrick is older and the guy in the mask looked older. Isn't he a military man as well? Wasn't that what they where using last night? Some kind of military alphabet? Can't recall.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tap_code

5x5 Grid "Tap Code."

Yeah, maybe Zoom is a split-off of Jay's speed (an actual manifestation of his addiction), or... hell, I'm really tired of theorizing. Whatever Zoom is, it's gonna be bizarre.

But yeah, a lot of the prevalent theories are that the guy we know as Jay Garrick really isn't Jay...
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Oh tap code. I couldn't remember. My inmates don't do that. Ha.
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The whole tap code thing was unnecessary IMO because they could see the man in the iron mask the whole time. It would have been easier for him to just write "air" letters on the glass. Jessie would have been able to recognize a big "J" motion...
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The whole tap code thing was unnecessary IMO because they could see the man in the iron mask the whole time. It would have been easier for him to just write "air" letters on the glass. Jessie would have been able to recognize a big "J" motion...
Yeah, no kidding.

For as much as I loved this episode, it had a couple of really REALLY stupid moments.

#1. Wells NOT shooting Zoom when he had the chance (when Frost saved everybody)
#2. The prisoner not just signing (ASL or writing out the air letters) his message.
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Old 02-17-2016, 08:46 PM   #536
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I can't wait for the next episode to see what it is with Jay. It will be pretty hard for Caitlin if Jay turns out to be related to Zoom or something, and ironic, considering that every guy she dates gets to die. I can't wait to see who the guy in the mask is.
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I can't wait for the next episode to see what it is with Jay. It will be pretty hard for Caitlin if Jay turns out to be related to Zoom or something, and ironic, considering that every guy she dates gets to die. I can't wait to see who the guy in the mask is.
If Earth-1 Ronnie is supposed to be well and truly dead, they did a terrible job of making it look like he is. Not to downplay Caitlin's heartbreak, of course, but off-screen deaths are rarely permanent.

Maybe Season 3... I dunno.
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Old 02-23-2016, 08:37 AM   #538
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The crossover with Supergirl has apparently finished filming according to Grant. Some set pics:

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Edit, More pics here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/superg...illain-a131349
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Old 02-23-2016, 10:53 AM   #539
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I hope something worthwhile happens in tonight's ep. It looks like pure filler to me.
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Well, pure filler but FILLED WITH KING SHARK!!!

Besides, we'll get to see Jessie adjusting to Earth-1, Wally and Barry interacting, and hopefully Team Flash beginning to plan their return to Earth-2 to rescue The Man in the Metal Mask and "Jay Garrick."

I'm psyched!
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