The Flash tv series on CW

[Slade]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Yeah... spoilers for next week!

You mean next month...


Oh and as for tonight's episode...dun dun dun..the plot thickens.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

That would be Trajectory's real name.

Guess I don't know her either... except I'm guessing she's the one in the spot for next week's episode. I don't tend to watch or read spoilers for tv shows.

Thanks for the reply though.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Slade

You mean next month...


Oh and as for tonight's episode...dun dun dun..the plot thickens.

Next Tuesday, next week, also next month...

[mrmaczaps]

Zoom'so big reveal... without spoiling the identity, do you think he has gone alternate universe to alternate universe, kidnapping himself and stealing his own speed when he comes across himself as a speedster?

[Slade]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Next Tuesday, next week, also next month...

No it's not next week. It's not coming back on till march 22nd.

[Splinter the boss]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

Zoom'so big reveal... without spoiling the identity, do you think he has gone alternate universe to alternate universe, kidnapping himself and stealing his own speed when he comes across himself as a speedster?

It would be nice if he has, just to show how obsessed he is with speed, like his counterpart. If it's not that way, then I'm confused. Is it Zalomon from earth 1, the real Jay from earth 2 or is the Jay we know an imposter? All for next week.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

DAMN IT. What the hell is with these stupid February-March month-long breaks?

As for the identity... well, at least he finally has something to do, right?

Seriously, though, this feels way too similar to Season 1. Starting to wonder if the showrunners from Season 1 got shafted (or snatched) by Legends of Tomorrow and whoever was left just made some quick changes to the Season 1 outline.

Girlfriend who doesn't know he's the Flash
Joe being a d!ck to his partner
Speed-obsessed villain
Mentor with a secret
Barry must go faster
Barry needs more pep talks

Sigh. I suppose I'm judging it too soon, but I have distinctly lost some of my faith in The Flash's writers and this episode didn't do much to restore it.

[TurtleTitan97]

And on another note, this was another great episode! King Shark was awesome.

And according to Andrew Kresiberg, Zoom is indeed Hunter Zolomon:

"Zoom’s identity has been revealed: He is HunterZolomon, a.k.a JayGarrick. How all of that plays out and what’s actually happening, we’ll leave for after the break, but we wanted to go out on this run of episodes with a big reveal, just the same way we did at the end of episode 9 in season 1, where we revealed that Harrison Wells was the man in the yellow suit. Zoom’s identity is finally revealed. For us, it could only happen because of what happened last season. For Barry and the others, as much as they were stung by Wells/Thawne’s betrayal, he had been their mentor and friend and they all felt that vacuum when he was gone. Jay had been watching them and knew that so he was able to masterfully step into the role each of them needed. He became a friend and mentor to Barry. A love interest to the heartbroken Caitlin. He skillfully played them all."

"We'll be learning the truth about Jay Garrick as the season progresses. Some of what he told Barry and the team was true and some of it was misleading. At the earliest stages of planning the season there was some discussion that Zoom was Barry's Earth-2 doppelganger but we very quickly moved away and fell in love with the idea that it was Jay."

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/the_fl...on-the-a131386

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

DAMN IT. What the hell is with these stupid February-March month-long breaks?

As for the identity... well, at least he finally has something to do, right?

Seriously, though, this feels way too similar to Season 1. Starting to wonder if the showrunners from Season 1 got shafted (or snatched) by Legends of Tomorrow and whoever was left just made some quick changes to the Season 1 outline.

Girlfriend who doesn't know he's the Flash
Joe being a d!ck to his partner
Speed-obsessed villain
Mentor with a secret
Barry must go faster
Barry needs more pep talks

Sigh. I suppose I'm judging it too soon, but I have distinctly lost some of my faith in The Flash's writers and this episode didn't do much to restore it.

I think that was Gabrielle Stanton's fault. But Andrew Kreisberg is now the sole showrunner, so I think he can pull it through. Plus, repetitive plots seem to be the base of all the CW Flarrow shows. Take Arrow for example: all of the villains' endgames have been to wipe-out Star(ling) City. I've got faith.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

DAMN IT. What the hell is with these stupid February-March month-long breaks?

As for the identity... well, at least he finally has something to do, right?

Seriously, though, this feels way too similar to Season 1. Starting to wonder if the showrunners from Season 1 got shafted (or snatched) by Legends of Tomorrow and whoever was left just made some quick changes to the Season 1 outline.

Girlfriend who doesn't know he's the Flash
Joe being a d!ck to his partner
Speed-obsessed villain
Mentor with a secret
Barry must go faster
Barry needs more pep talks

Sigh. I suppose I'm judging it too soon, but I have distinctly lost some of my faith in The Flash's writers and this episode didn't do much to restore it.

I don't know where all exactly the show runners get their comic lore from, but it could be because before the New 52, Reverse Flash and Zoom damn near seemed the same.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Well, while I'm still extremely skeptical of this whole season's overarching repetitive villain, I have been enjoying most of the episodes on an individual basis.

Curious to see what they're doing with Zolomon/Garrick/Zoom...

[Krutch]

Thinking ahead, any ideas who we'll get as Season long villains down the road?

I suppose if Legends ever wraps up they could have "The Rogues" working together as some form of super team. Captain Cold, Heatwave, The Trickster, Captain Boomerang, Pied Piper... introduce Mirror Master and you have a nicely rounded group.

Then there's Grodd, who is awesome but I don't see them using him as a full season villain. I don't know... there's just gotta be someone at CW who is going to say no to that for a number of reasons.

So who else? Black Flash? That'd be a little redundant at this point, and I think if they ever use him, saving him for the last season makes the most sense.

Guess I can't rule out Killer Frost from happening, either...

[Slade]

Good question, especially since the two main bads are in season 1 and season 2(even though Zoom is a Wally villain).

Is there anything about how many seasons they had planned from the beginning?

[Krutch]

Not that I've heard. I know Amell has said Arrow had a 6 year story planned out, leaving room for the possibility of a 7th season, so I'd guess Flash has a similar game plan.

Most CW leads sign a 6 season contract on new shows, if that's any indication.

[Slade]

I thought it was 5 for Arrow.


Flash has to do something with flashpoint I think.

[Krutch]

I think in season 2 Amell said they have a 5 year plan but a couple months ago on Amell's Facebook page we said it was 6, maybe 7.

Maybe Amell doesn't know what the hells going on lol

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Thinking ahead, any ideas who we'll get as Season long villains down the road?

I suppose if Legends ever wraps up they could have "The Rogues" working together as some form of super team. Captain Cold, Heatwave, The Trickster, Captain Boomerang, Pied Piper... introduce Mirror Master and you have a nicely rounded group.

Then there's Grodd, who is awesome but I don't see them using him as a full season villain. I don't know... there's just gotta be someone at CW who is going to say no to that for a number of reasons.

So who else? Black Flash? That'd be a little redundant at this point, and I think if they ever use him, saving him for the last season makes the most sense.

Guess I can't rule out Killer Frost from happening, either...

I've actually thought about this quite a lot.

I think all of the following could serve as arc- or season-long antagonists:

• Gorilla Grodd (as long as they could get the CGI budget)
• A version of Blue Cobalt (aka Eddie Thawne returns)
• Evil Earth-3 Barry Allen from the Crime Syndicate (Johnny Quick? Was that the name?)
• Poison Ivy and/or The Riddler (if Arrow can steal a Batman villain, so can The Flash)
• The Disciples of Zoom, from the recent New 52 storyline (basically a team of speedsters gathered from different timelines who have been lied to by Zoom or Reverse Flash)
• Grimdark Future Barry Allen (also from the recent New 52 storyline... basically Future Barry goes back in time and replaces Current Barry)
• The Rogues as a fully formed team (Captain Cold, Heatwave, Golden Glider, Mirror Master, Trickster, Weather Wizard)
• And, of course, more Eobard Thawne... culminating in Flashpoint

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

DAMN IT. What the hell is with these stupid February-March month-long breaks?

The reason for the break is because they're filming episodes. The Supergirl/Flash crossover is expected to air March 28th and as of the other day they were still filming! So the break is so they can do catch ups.

[TurtleTitan97]

They should totally do a season revolving around an Alien Invasion. I mean we already got metahumans/animals, magic, time travel, and parallel earths, might as well introduce extraterrestrials to Earth-1.

And since it's unlikely we'll ever see Hal Jordan or any of the Green Lanterns, I'd nominate Adam Strange to make an appearance.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Slade

No it's not next week. It's not coming back on till march 22nd.

Wtfudge! I hate these month long breaks!