Batman/Superman Dawn of Justice movie review thread - Page 9

*Powder* · 03-23-2016, 10:03 PM

My thoughts exactly...

Guess folks hold these characters to higher standards since they were allowed to have their dark/serious sides shine.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 03-23-2016, 10:04 PM

Well, I don't think anyone was expecting anything brilliant from a Michael Bay-driven TMNT film. Expectations were slightly lower than those of people waiting to see what DC had to rival Marvel's lineup.

*Powder* · 03-23-2016, 10:05 PM

Did people expect brilliance from this? Seemed pretty run of the mill/pretentiously brooding to me.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 03-23-2016, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Did people expect brilliance from this? Seemed pretty run of the mill/pretentiously brooding to me.

Oh yeah, they expected brilliance, as they well should have. The spectacle of DC's most well-known trio of heroes coming together for the first time cinematically ought to inspire brilliance in talented filmmakers.

*Powder* · 03-23-2016, 10:12 PM

Oh, well yeah, sure, but I mean post-trailers.

*CyberCubed* · 03-23-2016, 10:18 PM

I wonder why Zack Synder is not getting much backlash compared to other directors who bomb popular franchises. Just look at what the backlash to Fantastic Four and Green Lantern did.

*Bry* · 03-23-2016, 10:23 PM

Because money talks, and that kind of narrative at least partially depends on how the movie performs. Trank got some hate beforehand, but once Fant4astic bombed is when it really became real. If BvS underperforms after a couple of weeks, I expect Snyder will get plenty of backlash.

*JTH* · 03-23-2016, 10:28 PM

Fan approval rating right now on RT stands at 82%, average 4.2/5.

Now granted, every movie has a gradual decline on the fan rating so almost positive it won't stay there, but it would take a massive drop to get to rotten rating in the fans' minds.

*Bry* · 03-23-2016, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JTH

Fan approval rating right now on RT stands at 82%, average 4.2/5.

Now granted, every movie has a gradual decline on the fan rating so almost positive it won't stay there, but it would take a massive drop to get to rotten rating in the fans' minds.

Again though, the movie's not officially released yet, so a lot of that's coming from people who got into advance screenings. That comes with increased excitement (and bias), and pre-release audience reactions are almost always overwhelmingly positive. We'll have a better idea of the audience consensus in 2 or 3 weeks.

*CyberCubed* · 03-23-2016, 10:46 PM

I just can't believe DC allowed this to happen. Everything was riding on this film.

Man, I'm glad I'm not a huge DC fan like other people, because I can see them being absolutely devastated.

*NinjaPug* · 03-23-2016, 10:52 PM

Probably because WB calls the shots.

*CyberCubed* · 03-23-2016, 11:04 PM

Its funny, us TMNT fans are getting a bad movie this year but we can just wave it off because it doesn't matter. TMNT is highly successful in the IDW comic and Nick cartoon.

DC fans only have the comics currently, and the New 52 is a mess and failed.

*Galactus* · 03-23-2016, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I wonder why Zack Synder is not getting much backlash compared to other directors who bomb popular franchises. Just look at what the backlash to Fantastic Four and Green Lantern did.

Probably because few people have seen it. As people have said we'll get a better idea of how much of a "bomb" this is in a few weeks. I'm also going to go out on a limb that's much better than Trank's F4 by a significant margin.

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Its funny, us TMNT fans are getting a bad movie this year but we can just wave it off because it doesn't matter. TMNT is highly successful in the IDW comic and Nick cartoon.

DC fans only have the comics currently, and the New 52 is a mess and failed.

I disagree. I think a lot rides on the movies. Even with the best intentions the animated series isn't going to last forever and Nickelodeon is known for mothballing franchises. Unless the sequel performs a lot better I think we'll get one more in time for the series to wrap up and questions are asked of whether they should bother to keep the comic going.

Besides people are always going to respect Batman and give Superman a try. If TMNT is to ever progress it needs to start making movies that are genuinely good. At this point it doesn't seem like a big deal if the movies aren't good because few people expect them to be but what happens when they've played all the nostalgia cards and people realize there's nothing else of interest there?

*CyberCubed* · 03-24-2016, 12:03 AM

Honestly 3 Michael Bay TMNT movies is enough. I would hope to god the third one is the last one and that version of TMNT dies.

Besides, by the time the third movie comes out the Nick cartoon will be in its 7th season or so...so it'll have had a good run if that turns out to be the end.

*Jephael* · 03-24-2016, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

DC fans only have the comics currently.

http://orig12.deviantart.net/e2dd/f/...v2-d9ohtjv.jpg

*Krutch* · 03-24-2016, 12:35 AM

I'm seeing this tomorrow night. I'll give my two cents once I've seen it.

Until then, here's something to brighten everyones mood whose been optimistic about this movie. I made a list of some other superhero movies that its still beating on Rottentomatoes. There's still hope that it will stand proudly above these other entrants...

Fantastic Four (2015) - 9%
Fantastic Four (2005) - 27%
Fantastic Four (1994) - 29%
Ghost Rider - 26%
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance - 17% (also written by David S Goyer)
The Spirit - 14%
Jonah Hex - 12%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) - 21%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III - 21%
Spawn - 19%
Supergirl - 7%
Elektra - 10%
~~X-Men Origins - Wolverine - 38%~~
Blade: Trinity - 25%
Steel - 12%
Blankman - 13%
Green Lantern - 26%
Catwoman - 9%
Captain America (1990) - 9%
Batman & Robin - 11%
Kick Ass 2 - 30%
The Punisher (1989) - 28%
The Punisher (2004) - 29%
Punisher: War Zone - 27%
Superhero Movie - 17%

*CyberCubed* · 03-24-2016, 12:38 AM

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) - 21%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III - 21%

Man, TMNT III deserves better.

*Krutch* · 03-24-2016, 12:39 AM

Yup. Agreed.

~~Commenter 42~~ · 03-24-2016, 01:10 AM

Now, with the reviews so low, the next news cycle will inevitably be the amazing B.O. it generates opening weekend, followed by staunch defenders of the film, playing all the hits:

"Clearly, you're not a true fan of DC"

"Superman sucks anyway, I went for Batman"

"This is just part of the story!!! It's setting up Justice League!"

"Obviously a Marvel fanboy."

"What do critics know, they don't read comics."

Reminds me of a certain Bingo Card...

*Andrew NDB* · 03-24-2016, 01:12 AM

Zack Snyder's worst movie on his worst day is still far better and more of a film than anything found in the first Bay-produced TMNT "film" or anything we've seen of part 2.

03-23-2016, 10:23 PM	#167
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03-23-2016, 10:28 PM	#168
JTH "ME" Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,660	Fan approval rating right now on RT stands at 82%, average 4.2/5. Now granted, every movie has a gradual decline on the fan rating so almost positive it won't stay there, but it would take a massive drop to get to rotten rating in the fans' minds. Last edited by JTH; 03-23-2016 at 10:33 PM.

03-24-2016, 01:12 AM	#180
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,574	Zack Snyder's worst movie on his worst day is still far better and more of a film than anything found in the first Bay-produced TMNT "film" or anything we've seen of part 2. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-23-2016, 10:03 PM	#161
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	My thoughts exactly... Guess folks hold these characters to higher standards since they were allowed to have their dark/serious sides shine.

03-23-2016, 10:05 PM	#163
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Did people expect brilliance from this? Seemed pretty run of the mill/pretentiously brooding to me.

03-23-2016, 10:12 PM	#165
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Oh, well yeah, sure, but I mean post-trailers.

03-23-2016, 10:18 PM	#166
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	I wonder why Zack Synder is not getting much backlash compared to other directors who bomb popular franchises. Just look at what the backlash to Fantastic Four and Green Lantern did.

03-23-2016, 10:46 PM	#170
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	I just can't believe DC allowed this to happen. Everything was riding on this film. Man, I'm glad I'm not a huge DC fan like other people, because I can see them being absolutely devastated.

03-23-2016, 10:52 PM	#171
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Probably because WB calls the shots.

03-23-2016, 11:04 PM	#172
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Its funny, us TMNT fans are getting a bad movie this year but we can just wave it off because it doesn't matter. TMNT is highly successful in the IDW comic and Nick cartoon. DC fans only have the comics currently, and the New 52 is a mess and failed.

03-24-2016, 12:03 AM	#174
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Honestly 3 Michael Bay TMNT movies is enough. I would hope to god the third one is the last one and that version of TMNT dies. Besides, by the time the third movie comes out the Nick cartoon will be in its 7th season or so...so it'll have had a good run if that turns out to be the end.

03-24-2016, 12:35 AM	#176
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	I'm seeing this tomorrow night. I'll give my two cents once I've seen it. Until then, here's something to brighten everyones mood whose been optimistic about this movie. I made a list of some other superhero movies that its still beating on Rottentomatoes. There's still hope that it will stand proudly above these other entrants... Fantastic Four (2015) - 9% Fantastic Four (2005) - 27% Fantastic Four (1994) - 29% Ghost Rider - 26% Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance - 17% (also written by David S Goyer) The Spirit - 14% Jonah Hex - 12% Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) - 21% Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III - 21% Spawn - 19% Supergirl - 7% Elektra - 10% ~~X-Men Origins - Wolverine - 38%~~ Blade: Trinity - 25% Steel - 12% Blankman - 13% Green Lantern - 26% Catwoman - 9% Captain America (1990) - 9% Batman & Robin - 11% Kick Ass 2 - 30% The Punisher (1989) - 28% The Punisher (2004) - 29% Punisher: War Zone - 27% Superhero Movie - 17%

03-24-2016, 12:38 AM	#177
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) - 21% Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III - 21% Man, TMNT III deserves better.

03-24-2016, 12:39 AM	#178
Krutch Like, stupid rich. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Rawkzone Posts: 2,808	Yup. Agreed.

03-24-2016, 01:10 AM	#179
~~Commenter 42~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 3,954	Now, with the reviews so low, the next news cycle will inevitably be the amazing B.O. it generates opening weekend, followed by staunch defenders of the film, playing all the hits: "Clearly, you're not a true fan of DC" "Superman sucks anyway, I went for Batman" "This is just part of the story!!! It's setting up Justice League!" "Obviously a Marvel fanboy." "What do critics know, they don't read comics." Reminds me of a certain Bingo Card...