What do you think the plot will be for the second 80's crossover?

[CyberCubed]

So we know from a Rob Paulsen tweet there will be a second 80's crossover episode, this time around with Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady appearing. What should be the plot?

I think they'll definitely have both sets of Bebop/Rocksteady meet. Too much comic potential to see Nick's Bebop/Rocksteady interacting with their 80's counterparts. I don't think Nick's Shredder will meet 80's Shredder though, simply due to how different they are and how serious the Nick Shredder is.

I suspect Krang will want revenge for his failure in the previous episode and bring Shredder/Bebop/Rocksteady with him (and hopefully some Foot Soldiers too?), to get back at the Turtles. Hopefully Kevin Michael Richadrson can imitate James Avery as best he can, or sound like the other Shredder VA replacements from the show.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So we know from a Rob Paulsen tweet there will be a second 80's crossover episode, this time around with Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady appearing. What should be the plot?

I think they'll definitely have both sets of Bebop/Rocksteady meet. Too much comic potential to see Nick's Bebop/Rocksteady interacting with their 80's counterparts. I don't think Nick's Shredder will meet 80's Shredder though, simply due to how different they are and how serious the Nick Shredder is.

I suspect Krang will want revenge for his failure in the previous episode and bring Shredder/Bebop/Rocksteady with him (and hopefully some Foot Soldiers too?), to get back at the Turtles. Hopefully Kevin Michael Richadrson can imitate James Avery as best he can, or sound like the other Shredder VA replacements from the show.

I do hope the Bebops and Rocksteadys meet. So far the crossovers have focused mostly on the Turtles and Shredder. Due to the situations in the crossovers, the Aprils, Splinters, Caseys and so forth have never gotten to meet up.

[CyberCubed]

Seeing Nick's Russian Rocksteady say, "I am the Rocksteady!" and 80's Rocksteady say, "Hey, pal, you're nothing more than a cheap knock off!"

Nick's Bebop will be like, "Oh snap, son! Where you get those shades, homie? They be dope!" and 80's Bebop will be like, "Gee, I got these from my Mommy when I was a little boy!"

On another note, its pretty funny how 80's Bebop never spoke in slang while Nick's Bebop uses all those words.

[FlawedCoil82]

Id like to see them somehow bring in the 4kids turtles as well, even though I believe that is unlikely.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Seeing Nick's Russian Rocksteady say, "I am the Rocksteady!" and 80's Rocksteady say, "Hey, pal, you're nothing more than a cheap knock off!"

Nick's Bebop will be like, "Oh snap, son! Where you get those shades, homie? They be dope!" and 80's Bebop will be like, "Gee, I got these from my Mommy when I was a little boy!"

On another note, its pretty funny how 80's Bebop never spoke in slang while Nick's Bebop uses all those words.

.......because all black people have to speak in slang right....?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

.......because all black people have to speak in slang right....?

Well both Nick's Rocksteady/Bebop are stereotypes. Rocksteady speaks in the usual thick Russian accent with stuff like, "Da," and "Its good, yes?" while Nick's Bebop spouts lines like, "Homie, dawg, son, oh snap," etc.

80's Rocksteady/Bebop were dumb, but they never had any real stereotypes to them beyond that.

[TurtleGuy]

Originally Posted by FlawedCoil82

Id like to see them somehow bring in the 4kids turtles as well, even though I believe that is unlikely.

I do, too. But I think union laws and whatnot are preventing this from happening. They could hire sound-a-likes like Turtles Forever did, but the creators are probably thinking "what would be the point of having the 2003 turtles if we can't get the original cast?".

[Foombamaroom]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

.......because all black people have to speak in slang right....?

I get that the whole Forum always jumps on Cubed, but that dialogue isn't so far off given what we've heard the Nick Bebop, who basically is a walking stereotype as Cubed pointed out, say in the past episodes.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

I get that the whole Forum always jumps on Cubed, but that dialogue isn't so far off given what we've heard the Nick Bebop, who basically is a walking stereotype, say in the past episodes.

No I mean, he was implying 80's Bebop wasn't talking 'black' enough..... I'm actually glad classic Bebop is one of the few non-racial stereotypes. Sure he falls into the 'dumb uneducated thug' stereotype from cartoons, but race was never a part of it since Rocksteady was just as dumb.

[Powder]

I don't think CC was implying that at all. The irony comes from Bebop being an 80's street thug/punk with a generic vocal palette, while his clean cut millennial counterpart is the one using slang from that era/scene.

[victory_angel]

All we know so far according to that script post from Rob is that the episode is going to have the OT TMNT, 87 Shredder, 87 Bebop, 87 Rocksteady, Krang, 2012 Donnie, 2012 Mikey, Captain Ryan, and Evil Captain Ryan.

This either means the other guys would be recording at a different session time, or this will be an episode that doesn't feature Nick Leo or Nick Raph.

These aren't always usual but there have been episodes that don't feature all the Turtles or at best only get one line then their gone the rest of the episode or cameo appearance. I can't think of any OT episodes off the top of my head, but there were episodes in the 2k3 that didn't feature all four turtles.


Since this recent episode connected to the ending of wormquake. We know from Donatello's line at the end that they believe that the worm must be from Shredder and Kraang. And then they encounter Tiger Claw.

The Captain Ryan thing sounds like it's a dream episode, or it has a flash back sequence back at least to some off screen moment of Season 1. Or before that when Leo was a Space Hero's fan boy (as in when the show was on the air).

Or the OT Turtles arrive at the lair and there is a moment where one of the OT are reading Leo's comic books.

The other plausibility (which is a lame one) is that Shreddder and Krang bring Captain Ryan to life and then make an evil clone or brain wash him to turn him evil.

[neatoman]

Hopefully, the episode is just about the turtles jumping through a bunch of crazy dimensions (as implied with the inclusion of Space Heroes characters) and the Fred Wolf characters are just given a cameo.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Hopefully, the episode is just about the turtles jumping through a bunch of crazy dimensions (as implied with the inclusion of Space Heroes characters) and the Fred Wolf characters are just given a cameo.

They wouldn't bother calling back all the old Fred Wolf voices back to the studio again at a later date if it was nothing more than a brief cameo. Not to mention since we know Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady are in it this time, it definitely going to be an all episode thing.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They wouldn't bother calling back all the old Fred Wolf voices back to the studio again at a later date if it was nothing more than a brief cameo. Not to mention since we know Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady are in it this time, it definitely going to be an all episode thing.

Transdimensional turtles focused on krang and kraang subprime. Im guessing this new one will focus on the nick shredder and OT shredder. I would love to see how they would interact. Nick shredder would initially ally himself with his 80s counterpart to honour his family name but after seeing his relative incompetence and humourous jokes, the nick shredder will bertray the OT shredder who is forced to fight alongside the turtles.

Theory Sounds a bit like TF, but im sure Nick will add their own twist to it.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Im sure though that this second crossover will be connected to the cameo in wormquake. Transdimensional turtles showed what happened before wormquake, while this crossover I believe will showcase what happened in the fight between tiger claw and the OT, somehow causing a chain reaction of events that would lead to this second crossover.

[Ninjinister]

Just good for thought, Ryan might not be in that episode. It could so be that Bloom was only available that day so he was added to the schedule.

I mean it's certainly possible... But it isn't necessarily confirmation.

[Jephael]

I'm kinda thinking the modern day Leonardo and Raphael will be offworld or something, dealing with whatever havoc Mark Hammil's character is causing during the main storyarc, so only Donatello and Michelangelo will be available to aid the '87 TMNT.

[Wildcat]

Why couldn't Nick Shredder meet OT Shredder? So what if Nick's is more serious. 4kids Shredder was really serious too and he met OT Shredder.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Why couldn't Nick Shredder meet OT Shredder? So what if Nick's is more serious. 4kids Shredder was really serious too and he met OT Shredder.

Because there would be no place for it to go. The two sets of Bebop/Rocksteady meeting would provide humorous moments, but since Nick's Shredder is all serious and has no real personality most of the time, it would be hard seeing him interact with 80's Shredder.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

but since Nick's Shredder is all serious and has no real personality most of the time, it would be hard seeing him interact with 80's Shredder.

Also the Nick shredder is crazy beyond all reason. He is willing to put an entire city heck the entire planet at risk to destroy the one person who is his greatest enemy. That is almost as crazy as ch'rell wanting to destroy the prime turtles even though that meant destroying his existance as well.

Where as ot shredder wants to take over all of earth and control it the way he wanted.