Batman/Superman Dawn of Justice movie review thread

[turtlefanforever]

you're pissed over the little things.

maybe the bullets were stronger, faster, easier to kill with. Not everything needs a concrete reason. but if you're going into battle wouldn't you want the most powerful weapons possible? and wouldn't a metal that no one else has give you an advantage over the "regular bullets" that you preach.
As it was said before he wasn't trying to hide anything either.

And the fact of the matter is, Doomsday WAS/IS KRYPTONIAN. You get more pissed than plastroncafe when somebody calls caitlyn, bruce.


it's not like he wasn't Kryptonian. You say there's "nothing kyrptonian about him" and then the lasers from his eyes thing is mentioned and you go "wonder woman and the flash must be kryptonian too" where's your logic in that?

Doomsday emerges from a Kryptonian ship, shoots lasers out of his eyes like Zod & Superman, Superman doesn't correct batman for saying he's Kryptonian and that only Kryptonite can kill him, because he was/IS RIGHT! Doomsday.

it's an educated guess. Say your math teacher puts a problem up on the board and you have no idea how to solve it entierly, but you can do the multiplication and division aspects of it. and once you do that you just guess a number based off what you know. an educated guess and by some miracle it's right. Is the teacher gonna berrade you with questions "how did you know?!" "how could you possibly know?!" and if you tell him/her you took an educated guess should he/she fail you for the entire school year?

[ProactiveMan]

(I'm talking about reviewers in general here, not anyone on this thread )

I didn't want to read any reviews after I saw the movie, because I didn't see the point. I didn't like it much, but I didn't think it was terrible, and I was happy to leave it at that. Unfortunately it's been nearly impossible to avoid; everyone on the internet and beyond is throwing their two cents in.

I didn't think the scrip was very good, but I'm having a hard time understanding why reviewers can't follow the plot, especially the Martha situation. It's an opera. It's arch, and melodramatic, but it isn't complicated. I don't think the story was particularly clever or anything, but I suspect some people are playing dumb to make it seem a lot worse than it actually is.

And how come Batman doesn't dance anymore?

[NinjaPug]

Pretty good Monday at the box office:

"@ERCboxoffice: BATMAN V SUPERMAN scored $15M yesterday--$1M more than FURIOUS 7, $5M more than THE HUNGER GAMES on their 1st Mondays."

"@ERCboxoffice: The $15M BATMAN V SUPERMAN earned on Monday is better than both IRON MAN 3 ($11M) and AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON ($13M)."

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

you're pissed over the little things.

Who said I was pissed? I was just having a discussion. Geesh...

maybe the bullets were stronger, faster, easier to kill with. Not everything needs a concrete reason. but if you're going into battle wouldn't you want the most powerful weapons possible? and wouldn't a metal that no one else has give you an advantage over the "regular bullets" that you preach.
As it was said before he wasn't trying to hide anything either.

So, basically, some more benefit of the doubt that isn't indicated in any way shape or form in the script.

And the fact of the matter is, Doomsday WAS/IS KRYPTONIAN. You get more pissed than plastroncafe when somebody calls caitlyn, bruce.

Again... at what point was I pissed, exactly? Everyone on defense of this movie seems to have their swords up as soon as someone points out something they didn't like. I'm in no way "pissed". I'm just discussing what I noticed. Calm down, man All is well.

it's not like he wasn't Kryptonian. You say there's "nothing kyrptonian about him" and then the lasers from his eyes thing is mentioned and you go "wonder woman and the flash must be kryptonian too" where's your logic in that?

The...the same exact logic you're using to deduce that Doomsday is Kryptonian? "He shoots lasers from his eyes! He's Kryptonian!" is the same as saying "He's as fast as Superman! He's Kryptonian!" or "She can take a hit like Superman! She's Kryptonian!" Stop attacking, dude. Just sharing my thoughts.

Superman doesn't correct batman for saying he's Kryptonian

You mean when Batman was in his Batwing talking to Alfred while Superman was unconscious in space?

it's an educated guess. Say your math teacher puts a problem up on the board and you have no idea how to solve it entierly, but you can do the multiplication and division aspects of it. and once you do that you just guess a number based off what you know. an educated guess and by some miracle it's right. Is the teacher gonna berrade you with questions "how did you know?!" "how could you possibly know?!" and if you tell him/her you took an educated guess should he/she fail you for the entire school year?

My issue is that when more evidence points to it's not Kryptonian, it's not an educated guess. It's a poor assumption that he was lucky paid off.

Take a breath. Honestly not trying to start something guys. Swords down, y'all

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Who said I was pissed? I was just having a discussion. Geesh...


So, basically, some more benefit of the doubt that isn't indicated in any way shape or form in the script.

there is even less evidence at the point of that scene to suggest that Lex's men are good enough to kill those men with regular bullets than there is that Doomsday day isn't Kryptonian.

How do you know they would have been able to kill those men with regular bullets?!?! HOW DO YOU KNOW???? Where's the evidence supporting it? at that point in time in the movie? How do you know?????

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

there is even less evidence at the point of that scene to suggest that Lex's men are good enough to kill those men with regular bullets than there is that Doomsday day isn't Kryptonian.

How do you know they would have been able to kill those men with regular bullets?!?! HOW DO YOU KNOW???? Where's the evidence supporting it? at that point in time in the movie? How do you know?????

Wow. Brilliant rebuttal. I concede

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Krutch

Wow. Brilliant rebuttal. I concede

I'm just using your Doomsday isn't really Kryptonian argument against you. What evidence shows they would have been able to take them out with regular bullets considering 2 hours later in the film about 20 of them were defeated by a man in a cape with nothing but his two hands and a grappling hook.

[NinjaPug]

Stop being such an insufferable twat.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

@Krutch

I'm honestly tired of having the same points talked about over and over...but you've now said some new things that, are just really out there.

So you talk about facts. Doomsday comes from the Kryptonian ship, and then shoots lasers out of his eyes just like Superman and Zod, and you still think Batman should think it's not kryptonian based off of a video of the Flash and Aquaman? Cyborg and Wonder Woman up to that point had not shown any powers. So you discredit the fact the creature comes from something kryptonian because of Meta-Humans. Meta-Humans that in Lex's explanation to the Senator, could be stopped by a Kryptonian Bullet. Which would most likely be in the files Batman steals. So EVEN if Batman thought for one second, wait they could be meta-humans...Lex's research seems to point to them all being vulnerable to Kryptonite (which is wrong) and therefore would be right of Batman to suggest using the spear to defeat Doomsday.

Your theory of "well he should have shot the grenade at him to test it out first theory...yeah he had ONE left. He used it to weaken it so they could get close and kill it. Why on earth would he waste his ONLY grenade just to make sure he wasn't a Meta-Human, which Lex believes would be weakened or killed by Kryptonite? If he wastes his last kryptonite grenade, then they, especially Batman, have NO shot of getting close to it and stabbing it with the spear.

I'm at work, I'm sure there was other things I wanted to reply to, maybe later when I'm done with work I'll go through comment by comment.

And $15 million on a Monday...yeah sure looks like Constipated42 or whatever his name is, will be eating a sh*t sandwich this week, or no he won't because he'll just avoid anything that proves him wrong, or makes him look like a tool.

[ABrown]

As was the case with Man of Steel, I'm just having a hard time buying Henry Canvill as Superman. And I don't entirely blame it on him. I don't like the costume, I don't like the dialogue/writing. But mostly, I just don't see the "boyscout" that I think Superman should be. While there's a lot of people who don't think that it was the greatest movie in the world, I think Brandon Routh was able to pull off the role in Superman Returns. And I think Tom Welling in Smallville was very good in the role. However, for whatever reason I just can't behind Canvill as Superman.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

That's not very Christian of you, King of Kings...

Anyway, so yeah, you're totally that guy.
Anyone wanna take the over under on next weekends B.O.? I'm going to go with 62%.

This won't make the B.

Dude seriously shut up and stop it. The talking of religion and politics is a big no, no as well as personal insult. I asked you to stop it when this thread first started and it is obvious you will just keep finding someone else to attack.
Seriously stop it before thread is locked or before you get suspended/banned.

Seriously everyone its just a movie. This will turn into the TMNT movie section if this keeps up.

[snake]

What the f*ck is wrong with you people?

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

I'm honestly tired of having the same points talked about over and over...

haha as am I, dude

Like I said, I'm dropping it. I feel like we've reached a point where you feel the script gave enough to warrant what you believe and I feel otherwise. The bullets/hired guns thing, to me, isn't a minor quibble because it dictates Lois Lane's entire story arc for the first half of the movie and only serves to show that Lex is awful at covering his tracks and shows Batman isn't a good detective. The Doomsday thing, to me, just showed a big lack of judgement that could have resulted in the death of hundreds or thousands of Gotham citizens but due to plot convenience, it all worked out okay. You think he made a rational decision based on what was in front of him.

It happens

I appreciate you backing up your points, though. You can post new points if you'd like, and if you happen to sway my opinion, I'll let you know. But if I don't reply to it, don't take it personally. I'm just getting off this carousel before we go around again

Fantastic Four (1994) - 29%
Kick Ass 2 - 30%
The Punisher (1989) - 28%
The Punisher (2004) - 29%

[plastroncafe]

I'm curious:

Are there any women on the board who enjoys this particular portion of the extended universe?

I've yet to hear a woman say she liked this movie.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

Dude seriously shut up and stop it. The talking of religion and politics is a big no, no as well as personal insult. I asked you to stop it when this thread first started and it is obvious you will just keep finding someone else to attack.
Seriously stop it before thread is locked or before you get suspended/banned.

Seriously everyone its just a movie. This will turn into the TMNT movie section if this keeps up.

Jesus christ kids.

Learn to read the damn thread. Turo called me a "dumbass" for posting a review, and hurled a bunch of insults. I responded with a little jab, and I wan't discussing religion, unless his name is now "religion". I didn't attack, he GD well did. You want to calm the threads down, go after him, not me.

Get off my back, and don't call me out again dude.
Read more carefully, thanks.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I'm curious:

Are there any women on the board who enjoys this particular portion of the extended universe?

I've yet to hear a woman say she liked this movie.

I've yet to meet anyone, in real life, who liked the movie, male or female. The only good reviews have been online.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

Originally Posted by Krutch

due to plot convenience, it all worked out okay.

Last thing I'll say here...

Isn't everything that happens in every movie a plot convenience? In real life mistakes are made, people made bad judgments, people don't succeed, we don't call them plot holes...it's just life. I don't want to watch a movie where every character is flawless in their execution of whatever it is they're doing. That's boring.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Jesus christ kids.
I've yet to meet anyone, in real life, who liked the movie, male or female. The only good reviews have been online.

I've a couple of friends who loved both it and Man of Steel. All of them are dudes.

The best positive review I've gotten from a female friend regarding the latter was: "I didn't mind Man of Steel."

Edited to add:
I've been informed that I know at least one woman who enjoyed these movies. Confirmation is still ongoing. I'll keep you posted.

Originally Posted by Purse Grabbin Puke

Last thing I'll say here...

Isn't everything that happens in every movie a plot convenience? In real life mistakes are made, people made bad judgments, people don't succeed, we don't call them plot holes...it's just life. I don't want to watch a movie where every character is flawless in their execution of whatever it is they're doing. That's boring.

But...that's Batman. Like, in a nutshell that's Batman.
There's a reason he's Comics' Greatest MarySue.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I've a couple of friends who loved both it and Man of Steel. All of them are dudes.

The best positive review I've gotten from a female friend regarding the latter was: "I didn't mind Man of Steel."

I haven't been to the theater yet, so I can't say for myself, but a few folks on set were buzzing about it on Saturday, most of the convo was negative. A group of us might see it Wed, but I refuse to pay real money to Snyder...so we'll see.

[plastroncafe]

We have confirmation for the singular female friend.
However, she loves the movies for Amy Adams, and refers to them as Lois Lane movies, so take of that what you will.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

So that's a yes on Trump?

The butthurt is strong in this one. You're only proving my point; you get that, right?

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

That's not very Christian of you, King of Kings...

Anyway, so yeah, you're totally that guy.
Anyone wanna take the over under on next weekends B.O.? I'm going to go with 62%.

This won't make the B.

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

Jesus christ kids.

Learn to read the damn thread. Turo called me a "dumbass" for posting a review, and hurled a bunch of insults. I responded with a little jab, and I wan't discussing religion, unless his name is now "religion". I didn't attack, he GD well did. You want to calm the threads down, go after him, not me.

Get off my back, and don't call me out again dude.
Read more carefully, thanks.



I've yet to meet anyone, in real life, who liked the movie, male or female. The only good reviews have been online.

Well judging from your previous quotes you used Trump as an insult and insinuate anyone who supports trump as a "idiot/moron" and you insulted some ones faith....... Yeah you haven't brought up politics or religion.
You are not the only one who have gone out bounds in this thread, but you appear to be a constant instigator/ combatant. Seriously dude you need to chill, before it gets any worse.
The previous thread got locked for a reason if everyone does not calm down then it will happen again.