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Old 03-30-2016, 03:26 AM   #1
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Classic movie turtles v2

Hey,

not saure if this has been posted on here yet as I have been away for a week but glad i missed the first verison of these as with the changeable heads these become alot more appealing now

http://toynewsi.com/ig.php?mode=albu...art=0&sl=26174
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:41 AM   #2
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These awful things are already being discussed in the 2016 figures thread.
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:46 AM   #3
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Fair play.

I was 50/50 on originals and saw people had taken to swapping and re-painting heads but think i will pick these up when they are out
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Old 03-30-2016, 06:59 AM   #4
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Powder just seems to really want people to abstain from buying these, to force Playmates to either step up their game, or give up the ghost completely.
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Old 03-30-2016, 07:25 AM   #5
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I'm hardly the only one. It's frustrating to not only have lackluster options but to see those who share that opinion support the product anyway. It's like voting a president whose policies you hate in for a second term. People seem to forget Playmates' poor choices & bad attitude are why it took this long to see alternatives, & even with that being said, they're in funky scales or are overpriced international releases, at least for the time being. Should they involve themselves in the adult collector's market once again & feel that they have a place there, they could exercise their right to hold an iron grip over the toy license & knock out the competition. Then we'd have nothing at all but crap like this, which a lot of folks here outright say isn't up to par, but buy anyway. Those same people would in turn be the ones ranting & raving about how X, Y or Z got cancelled or faded off prematurely, without realizing they had a hand in it. You gotta speak with your wallet.

If some people like them, that's fine, they're totally entitled to that. But if you want better, you shouldn't support worse.

For what it's worth, I have tried to be objective towards this release, too. The accessories are great, the concept itself (alternate heads, props from the films, etc) is wonderful, there's nice box design, but they ultimately cheap out on both paint & accuracy, again taking one step forward & two steps back.
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:12 AM   #6
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Totally agree with Powder.

Still, I can live with the body sculpts. It's the heads that are way off.
Guess it was Let-the-interns-sculpt-a-Turtle-head-day at Playmates...
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:12 AM   #7
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I don't care and am not mad that Playmates made these honestly. We all have the power to choose to buy them or not. I see them as cheap figures for cheap collectors. It's fine if some want these. I'd just rather spend my money on good collectibles such as Mondo, hot Toys, NECA, etc.

The boxes look cool but nothing about these makes me want to buy them. Again, depends on if turtle fans care about quality or not. These are good for the fellow shell heads that play with toys still.
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:50 AM   #8
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It's like voting a president whose policies you hate in for a second term. People seem to forget Playmates' poor choices & bad attitude are why it took this long to see alternatives, & even with that being said, they're in funky scales or are overpriced international releases, at least for the time being. Should they involve themselves in the adult collector's market once again & feel that they have a place there, they could exercise their right to hold an iron grip over the toy license & knock out the competition. Then we'd have nothing at all but crap like this, which a lot of folks here outright say isn't up to par, but buy anyway. Those same people would in turn be the ones ranting & raving about how X, Y or Z got cancelled or faded off prematurely, without realizing they had a hand in it. You gotta speak with your wallet.

If some people like them, that's fine, they're totally entitled to that. But if you want better, you shouldn't support worse.
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Old 03-30-2016, 12:05 PM   #9
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Are these figures really the worst thing imaginable to you guys? I'll admit there's PLENTY of room for improvement here but it seems you die hard collectors won't be satisfied until turtle figs have real skin, animatronic skeletons, AI chips, and actual voice actor recordings...

Think about how much a perfectly-molded, perfectly accurate, perfectly articulated, perfectly painted figure would cost on a shelf. Could a figure like that really ever feasibly exist guys? Name one figure that you own that is a perfect representation of the content it's derived from and I'll find 10 things to nitpick.

Furthermore who said Playmates was supposed to be the turtle figure messiah anyway? So much accountability being placed on this company and never have I heard them actually say these will be the best tmnt figures you could ever buy. I'm realizing they're not even striving to be the best their just putting out figures they think we'll like. The main focus is cost saving, corner cutting etc. They're not so much "Turtles/quality first" mentality here.

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Old 03-30-2016, 12:11 PM   #10
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Are these figures really the worst thing imaginable to you guys? I'll admit there's PLENTY of room for improvement here but it seems you die hard collectors won't be satisfied until turtle figs have real skin, animatronic skeletons, AI chips, and actual voice actor recordings...

Think about how much a perfectly-molded, perfectly accurate, perfectly articulated, perfectly painted figure would cost on a shelf. Could a figure like that really ever feasibly exist guys? Name one figure that you own that is a perfect representation of the content it's derived from and I'll find 10 things to nitpick.
It's not about the figures being imperfect it's about the figures not even looking like the movie does. Nobody is saying that these figures have to be flawless, you're just strawmanning peoples arguments.
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Old 03-30-2016, 12:16 PM   #11
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I'm just saying this at least feels like a "try" from them.
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Old 03-30-2016, 12:36 PM   #12
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I'm just saying this at least feels like a "try" from them.
No you didn't. You came off as a smartass, ******** on people who want more then just "at least we tried... Sorta" effort.

Playmates labeled the line as Classics, it has a recognition from Masters of the Universe Classics and now 2 ThunderCats Classic lines.

The figures are very faulty and are way overpriced for what we get. They are in a oversized non-scale, what paint apps we get is sloppy and off-point (eyes for example), articulation with no thought behind, just adding as much PoA without actually working, like double jointed knees but no ankle rocker and loose fingers that barely holds the weapons. Bad representation of the show and movie(s), B&R are badassified fan artwork of FW in figure form, not actually FW styled, same goes for the Turtles and the "1990" Turtles are wildly off-model on some of the faces.

Sure, Wave 4 is a step up (from almost nothing) but it's a bit too little, too late.
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Old 03-30-2016, 12:39 PM   #13
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It's basically like choosing between keeping someone on life-support but not letting them fully live, or just pulling the plug. It boils down to preference, and their equal numbers who will say pull it while others may say let them live. Neither answer is fully right nor is it fully wrong.
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Old 03-30-2016, 12:43 PM   #14
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Bandai's ThunderCats Classics died out within its first wave for being subpar and not living up to its potential. They even tried to revive it with a Lion-O in 6" scale rather then 8", but it was too late.
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Old 03-30-2016, 12:56 PM   #15
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i kinda want these, the accessories look cool and well thought out FINALLY PLAYMATES
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Old 03-30-2016, 01:49 PM   #16
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:29 PM   #17
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No you choose to receive me that way. I like EVERYONE here. Whether you agree with me or not. At the end of the day we all like TMNT. That's how it is around here. If your not with the herd. Any opinion to the contrary of you know it alls automatically suggests I have anything against you as if you're someone to have anything against. It happens EVERY TIME. Bottom line we're talking toys here. Get over yourself. I like em, I'll be buying em. Not because they're God's gift to turtle toys but because they're pretty cool to me.

Comparing these figures to live and death situations is beyond me. It's sinful to suggest you like anything from Playmates.

I don't play the condescending sarcasm game here. I'm literally serious in my inquiry. Do you guys really hate these particular figures THAT much? Like I really wanna know from you guys but all you seem to take from my comments are "strawmanning" and being a "smartass" no one has bothered to give me a single seriously thought out answer.

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Old 03-30-2016, 02:41 PM   #18
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Cool story, bro. Good for you liking them.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:49 PM   #19
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See what I mean? Smh. ... And I'm the smartass.
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:07 PM   #20
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Yeah, nice edit 4 minutes after my post.

You want an answer why you came off as a straw an and a smartass? Besides just rereading your own post. Claiming "die hard" collectors will never be satisfied until playmates makes real-skinned animatronics and then avoiding the whole subject by challenging people to find a perfect toy for you to nitpick on.

It's not sinful saying you like something from playmates (there you go again). Playmates have made far better figures that outshines the Classics figures, the Wave 1 Basic Turtles are great figures that have a multitude of range in articulation, accessories, sculpt and the paint is cleaner then the Classics figures, and they feel sturdier then the Classic figures.
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