Official TMNT 2 Trailer #2 Discussion

[Vicky82]

Found this on Tumblr, thought it was funny

[D Piddy 1982]

I remember once, many moons ago, I would have defended the original PD TMNT to the hilt, even before I'd seen it.

Now, older, wiser and taking a step back, it really is quite amusing...and sometimes disturbing...the way some blindly follow Bay into his chasm of evil destroying all that has been laid before.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

THANK you. Just because something came from the cartoon doesn't mean it isn't idiotic drivel.

TMNT has always had idiotic drivel. In every incarnation.

[ToTheNines]

Yeahhhhhhhhhh...

I continue to be embarrassed by these movies. New low with the human crap.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I knew when starting this thread, that this would happen, and I'm not surprised by it, so whatever.

Then quit making threads.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by D Piddy 1982

I remember once, many moons ago, I would have defended the original PD TMNT to the hilt, even before I'd seen it.

Now, older, wiser and taking a step back, it really is quite amusing...and sometimes disturbing...the way some blindly follow Bay into his chasm of evil destroying all that has been laid before.

Blind franchise loyalty is a hell of a drug.

[sethmartin]

I see a lot of people pointing to that one episode where Mikey becomes human. However, the entire plot of the first season of the OT Series involved the turtles trying to obtain a device from Shredder to turn Splinter back into human form. We can blame the writers for coming up with a lame idea, but it's directly lifted from Season one of the OT show as are many elements of this movie.

I think it's an interesting idea, and definitely could play well with the turtles, but what kills it for me is Donny trying it out on himself, thus proving it works. I think if it was theoretical, it would be better. Would they really become human though? Wouldn't they turn into a half human/ half mutated turtle? Bebop and Rocksteady didn't become full animals. They became a hybrid.

That being said, I think this movie definitely looks closer to the source material than last time, even if that source material is the OT Series. It didn't come off quite as goofy as I originally thought it would and I think Leo looks pretty badass.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Bry

Blind franchise loyalty is a hell of a drug.

Yep, there's a reason I rolled my eyes and stopped posting in the TMNT sections. I disagreed with all the love for the Nick show, so I walked away from it. These movies are all I really bother with in regards to the franchise, and that's sad enough

[Galactus]

I liked the trailer a lot but not for the reasons you think. I think it shows very clear warning signs that this be so bad it could end this movie series.

I was expecting to see more of Casey Jones definitely as well Rebecca Vincent, Vern and Baxter considering we know they are a sizeable part of this movie. They are really giving this the hard sell that this is a turtle-centric movie to the point I imagine some will be disappointed when they see the movie and it's not.

Y'know I've never been that down on The Gangs All Here. It's a sub par episode with some so overly silly concepts but not more so than a lot of Season 3 episodes but clearly it's an unpopular episode so it's astonishing that it seems they took influence from it. Either that or it's they reached the same crappy ideas all on their own. I will admit it's an interesting concept for conflict but at least in that OT episode it portrayed the transformation as a gruelling experience but making it that easy that a little pipette drop of mutagen can transform Don's hand with no adverse affects then I see no reason they can easily transform back and forth undermining their own conflict. Also it seems more than a little contrived. Rather than personal conflict based on something relevant to the plot or established in their characters they have to manufacture something to disagree on.

I will eat some crow that it looks like (at least so far) Raph's fear of heights doesn't seem like they are overdoing it even if that splat is still pathetic. I don't know what it is but I agree that there's something underwhelming about these trailers. With the previous movie they were bad in the sense that it tipped us off how the movie severely lacked in source fidelity but as trailers for an action movie they were well made. Making everything seem so silly makes everything feel so inconsequential.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yep, there's a reason I rolled my eyes and stopped posting in the TMNT sections. I disagreed with all the love for the Nick show, so I walked away from it. These movies are all I really bother with in regards to the franchise, and that's sad enough

IDW comics, man. Stop depriving yourself!

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

IDW comics, man. Stop depriving yourself!

I'd read them more if I could afford to go to the LCS every month, but I'm a busy badger

I do have some of Batman/TMNT though.

[Krutch]

I'll say it: I actually like the story element of them weighing the options of becoming human. "Wanting to be human" has never really been a defining factor of the franchise, and I like new things, so I'm open to see where they take it.

Of course, it definitely has all the chance of being a horrible, horrible storyline full of uncharacteristic behaviours but we'll see, I guess. Maybe we'll see sides of the TMNT we've never seen before with this storyline.

I'm curious enough to check it out

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Right, but it would not shock me if they did turn back into humans in this movie and then mutated again in the third one

Sadly it looks like the ship has already sailed with the trailer but mutation being as easy as slipping on and off a new pair of shoes is something that should be avoided.

[sethmartin]

I doubt that they will turn into humans in this movie. It will probably just be a plot device that causes friction and will ultimately bring them closer together. Whether it's done well or not, I can't say until I see the movie.

[Krutch]

Originally Posted by Zombilly

I bet the mutagen to turn them human will end up altering their appearance, to change it up from the current look that not many seem to care for anyway.

That's the dream... And a 99.9 percent chance a dream it will stay, most likely.

[BoggleKng]

The only glimmer of excitement I had while watching the new trailer was watching the new interactions between Bebop and Rocksteady. As Beastie Boys fan, the overuse of the No Sleep track made the rest of it terribly annoying.. As for the Turtles turning human, I expected more than a recycled plot line..

[GeneralTragg]

Oh god, why must this be!?

[thundermaster612]

I think Donnie's hand will turn back to normal, also if you guys have seen the normal thread I talked about seeing clips in an 'Insider' interview, those clips were shown in the trailer

[Foombamaroom]

Huh. Something I noticed; 2014 had a heavy emphasis on Raph in their marketing. This one has a heavy emphasis on Leo. Maybe this is gonna be a Leo-centric film? I mean, besides being April-centric of course. -_-

[Bry]

I'm mostly just curious about what the reaction/performance is after it's out. My opinions are pretty clear on these things, and there's zero chance I'll give this any of my money. But the wide reaction might be my litmus test on how much hope to have left for this franchise. Ultimately, if this is what people want, it might be a sign it's time for me to step back a bit, fandom-wise.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

No I won't knock if off, I just can't believe that some stupid people here actually think the turtles are going to turn human in the movie.

if the people behind this mess are stupid enough to bring it up as a possibility it's not stupid to think it could actually be a thing that happens.